Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Taking deck notes ?

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FriedBlaziken

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Is it illegal to have a printed decklist of your own deck by your side, so that you can tick off the cards that are in your hand or prized, and to find out the chances of getting one card?

Eg. Ticking off each card as I draw. And ticking off the six prize cards to know whats left in the deck.
 
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10. Note Taking
Players are allowed to take notes during a game in respect to actions that have happened
during the game. Notes should be restricted to changes in the game state. Players must be
timely with their note-taking and may not use devices that may send or receive messages
as a note-taking device. Notes taken during a match may not be given to other players
during the course of the tournament. Notes taken during a match may be reviewed by
either player at any time during the match.
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This is the official rule from 2007-2008 Pokémon Organized Play Tournament Rules
Rules effective: 9/01/2007.

While making the tick marks does refer to changes in the game state, I'm not sure that the deck list itself does. However, as your opponent I would be more than happy to see a copy of your desk list since I can review it at any time.
 
If my interprtaion of the rules are correct....

FriedBlaziken said:
Is it illegal to have a printed decklist of your own deck by your side, so that you can tick off the cards that are in your hand or prized, and to find out the chances of getting one card?

Eg. Ticking off each card as I draw. And ticking off the six prize cards to know whats left in the deck.
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I dont think so

What is in your hand should be unknown to the game state, so no, crossing it off a list..... you cant cross it off a list

Even if you are able to it would be a bad idea since oppt can read notes... crossing off things off list sounds like notes...

So think about this.... You draw a warp point, during your next turn you plan on useing it to win the game... your oppt. turn... they draw... they look at ur notes.... "O you just drew warp point last turn, i think ill wager you"

Or think about this.... you have your deck list right there.... they look at it... they see Dusknoir.... They are going to say- "You play Dusknoir! I think ill keep my bench size down to 3"

Now this one should be a big reason why it is no.... Even though you shoudnt YOU CAN LIE!... You draw a card.... you need warp point or plus power next turn but dont have it... so you cross out warp point/pluspower.... they say "O you just drew warp point/plus power last turn, i think ill wager you".... you then get the card off the wager and say "Thank You"....

So what you are asking i belive is a no.... Im pritty sure someone like 'Pop or 'Mom can confirm it is a no and give a better reason why it is what it is.


Dueling_Prodigy said:
Would it be illegal if you took your notes in a special code so that your opponent couldn't read what you wrote?
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Yes it would

Local Language only- No Code, No Forign Language, No Ancient Egyption Hyrogliphics

Well that last one might be ok if you have a time machine to take you back to Ancient Egypt :lol::lol::lol:
 
THE FT. LAUD. LOUD MOUTH said:
Now this one should be a big reason why it is no.... Even though you shoudnt YOU CAN LIE!... You draw a card.... you need warp point or plus power next turn but dont have it... so you cross out warp point/pluspower.... they say "O you just drew warp point/plus power last turn, i think ill wager you".... you then get the card off the wager and say "Thank You"....
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Could lying or taking false notes fall under the "use of dubious actions that cause your opponent to misplay" rule?

Could be a problem if someone taking notes falsely checks off "opponent used energy attachment from hand" and uses it against the opponent when the opponent didn't actually do it.
 
I am under the impression that in order to take notes, you need to start with a blank sheet of paper. And besides, having a copy of your decklist would be so n00bish.
 
The simple answer is no. You can take notes of play actions during that rd only. Your oppo. can look at your notes at any time. You cannot refuse them that right.

Keith
 
It says:

10. Note Taking
Players are allowed to take notes during a game in respect to actions that have happened
during the game. Notes should be restricted to changes in the game state. Players must be
timely with their note-taking and may not use devices that may send or receive messages
as a note-taking device. Notes taken during a match may not be given to other players
during the course of the tournament. Notes taken during a match may be reviewed by
either player at any time during the match.
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I'm pretty sure that the exact card you drew has nothing to do with the game state. I think wrighting something like "I drew a card" would be legal but drawing a specific card doesn't have to do with the game state.
 
I've come across players that take notes so they can put a good tournament report on the PokeGym. In the past, POP has given out notebooks to players. I don't see a problem with marking off cards you've drawn, though I personally don't see the point. Plus, it could be deemed a stalling tactic in certain situations.

Also, if my opponent started writing on a piece of paper that already had lots of writing/printing on it, I'd insist upon reading it myself.

If something critical is prized, you generally don't want your opponent to know that. Notes like the one you suggest would facilitate your opponent in gaining too much knowledge.
 
FriedBlaziken said:
well then ill have to remember everything.
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hone those memory skills. :biggrin:

Technically, players who keep game notes so they can make a good tournament report aren't really following the "taking notes" guideline. What has this got to do with tracking game state? "My opponent is playing GG."

So, I guess if we wanted to get strict with note taking, we'd be irritating all those who take notes and do good tourney reports. :frown:
 
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