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FlyDon: A Sand Storm Production

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Empoleok14- Ok well Manectric will just get 1 hit by either Flygon SW or Hippowdon...so not worried and I have plenty of testing to reassure myself.

Mew- SP decks are the prime prey for this deck to feed on and have been the bulk of my playing.

Pokeric- Ok I agree that Hippowdon is a heavy attacker, but I need to move around energies with Stark so pure fighting has worked out best. Also I can night maint. for them as calls and upper I can not. Also you should have the upper hand early on so Upper has not been the play for me. I do think however I just dismissed it too quickly and will play tonight with a couple in there however I also need more fighting so I have a better chance of T1 Trapinch, Felicity's and T2 Flygon for big damage.

Espeon- I apologize- I edited it a while back and did not have the correct Total Supporters. It now reflects the full deck. I am half and half on the second stark, and I am thinking of following another members advice on removing a rare candy and then adding another stark. We shall see after testing more tonight.

Darkartisan- Ok you clearly have no idea what your talking about. I am getting tired of hearing input that does not even follow my deck. Hippowdon is a surplus of greatness that really is just there to BTS the bench and provide support for Flygon RR to do consistent +/-90 on average. If he gets power sprayed, ok it has never ruined a game in testing when that occurs. Also you hating my matchups does not provide any insight as to WHY. You just state that Gengar wrecks me which in reality I have done the playing with both, while you have not. You just assume way too much while I use function and practice to state my claims. Sure Gengar provides one of the best matchups and it is almost 50-50. As long as you play smart and trash him quickly or play around his power, you really are in the clearing. Sure there many options for SP decks, obviously, but they do not concern me as they rely heavily on lv x (ie Gallade, Dialga G, Palkia G, Alakazam) and tools/stadiums. Please do not lecture me by saying you hate my matchups and that they are not realistic as I am sure in reality, you have not play tested my deck and therefore you have no clue what realistic matchups are...

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Oh and as for Uxie, trust me this was one of the FIRST tests made and I can not afford to have it clog my bench while I am trying to use RR Flygon to hit for big damage. I have made up with it in the drawing power of the T/S's which can allow for Claydol T1 (if I can play trainers) or T2 easily.
 
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calisupra2nr said:
Empoleok14- Ok well Manectric will just get 1 hit by either Flygon SW or Hippowdon...so not worried and I have plenty of testing to reassure myself.

Mew- SP decks are the prime prey for this deck to feed on and have been the bulk of my playing.

Pokeric- Ok I agree that Hippowdon is a heavy attacker, but I need to move around energies with Stark so pure fighting has worked out best. Also I can night maint. for them as calls and upper I can not. Also you should have the upper hand early on so Upper has not been the play for me. I do think however I just dismissed it too quickly and will play tonight with a couple in there however I also need more fighting so I have a better chance of T1 Trapinch, Felicity's and T2 Flygon for big damage.

Espeon- I apologize- I edited it a while back and did not have the correct Total Supporters. It now reflects the full deck. I am half and half on the second stark, and I am thinking of following another members advice on removing a rare candy and then adding another stark. We shall see after testing more tonight.

Darkartisan- Ok you clearly have no idea what your talking about. I am getting tired of hearing input that does not even follow my deck. Hippowdon is a surplus of greatness that really is just there to BTS the bench and provide support for Flygon RR to do consistent +/-90 on average. If he gets power sprayed, ok it has never ruined a game in testing when that occurs. Also you hating my matchups does not provide any insight as to WHY. You just state that Gengar wrecks me which in reality I have done the playing with both, while you have not. You just assume way too much while I use function and practice to state my claims. Sure Gengar provides one of the best matchups and it is almost 50-50. As long as you play smart and trash him quickly or play around his power, you really are in the clearing. Sure there many options for SP decks, obviously, but they do not concern me as they rely heavily on lv x (ie Gallade, Dialga G, Palkia G, Alakazam) and tools/stadiums. Please do not lecture me by saying you hate my matchups and that they are not realistic as I am sure in reality, you have not play tested my deck and therefore you have no clue what realistic matchups are...

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Oh and as for Uxie, trust me this was one of the FIRST tests made and I can not afford to have it clog my bench while I am trying to use RR Flygon to hit for big damage. I have made up with it in the drawing power of the T/S's which can allow for Claydol T1 (if I can play trainers) or T2 easily.
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Wow another ARTICLE WITH NO BAD MATCHUPS...
Ridiculous....look, not trying to sound mean but this would lose to Arcanine...Flygon..Dialga...Palkia...Dialga/Palkia...Kingdra...alot more too.....
 
Which is exactly why you use psychic restore you clear it off the bench. Are you seriously calling ME a bad player?? Obviously your deck doesn't go 50-50 with Gengar, Gengar wins this matchup most of the time. You get Claydol sniped, along with Hippo, and then you cannot function properly, not to mention that Gengar uses 0 LV X, so you can't use Flygon to the best of your ability.

Unless you want me to post saying "OMG You're soooo good at building decks" then you're basically having unexperienced 8 year olds rate your deck.

Please NEVER Pm me again. I don't appreciate you spamming my PM box with your hate mail, I WILL be letting mods know about this.
 
This deck will get leeeeeet pwnzored by kingdra. starmie runs train all up on this one. OHKO on the hippo, and GG to the lame insect as well. i suggest moar mudkipz
 
Flygon/Hippowdon is a really good deck. It is a little slow though.

Your list is 59 cards though, unless I can't count.

And about matchups, you have to consider metagame changes come Rising Rivals. IT may have some threats as of RIGHT NOW in the metagame. But, the new cards coming out (Infernape, Gallade and Luxray for example) may make those counters next to dead. Gengar does have a hayday with this deck though.

I really like what you've done here though.
 
BlisseyRocks said:
Wow another ARTICLE WITH NO BAD MATCHUPS...
Ridiculous....look, not trying to sound mean but this would lose to Arcanine...Flygon..Dialga...Palkia...Dialga/Palkia...Kingdra...alot more too.....
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This has got to be one of the most shallow reactions in this thread. Get your facts check'd please before making empty statements.
 
BlisseyRocks said:
Wow another ARTICLE WITH NO BAD MATCHUPS...
Ridiculous....look, not trying to sound mean but this would lose to Arcanine...Flygon..Dialga...Palkia...Dialga/Palkia...Kingdra...alot more too.....
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I really do not take offense to that. I will be honest, I have NEVER tested against Arcanine, Flygon and mirrors have been posted which is 50-50. Kingdra does provide a serious threat, just read my matchup... Dialga and Palkia together are more of a threat than on their own, but none the less a threat.
 
afstandopleren said:
This has got to be one of the most shallow reactions in this thread. Get your facts check'd please before making empty statements.
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Arcanine will be another big deck, so you're gonna wanna test that too

Why dont you contribute instead of posting about someone else eh troll?
 
afstandopleren said:
This has got to be one of the most shallow reactions in this thread. Get your facts check'd please before making empty statements.
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Look, ive seen some interesting posts from you before...but i have my facts straight and my statements were full to the brim. I think YOU need to check with your Team Hatter group...oh wait...getting banned from one of the most laid back teams ive ever seen...what a shame;/
 
I will for sure be testing against Arcanine as you can tell that card is asking to be played by fire lovers and beyond.

I will admit that Gengar is EXTREMELY potent against this deck, HOWEVER, as long as you can use some good math and logic skills, you can kill them off one by one and maybe only lose a couple of benches on your side. If I had room for Unown G I would use him and maybe after more testing I wil figure that out, but right now I am tight for cards. Any suggestions on what to remove for unown g?

In the end though, it depends on how lucky the Spell works with Gengar as I can just 1 hit all of them, but then have to take the risk of being KOd myself. Using SW Flygon can provide me a great tool against this by KOing with his body instead.
 
No, this is not how this site works guys. How about everyone here grow up a little and stop spamming this thread. The next post to step out of line is getting an infraction. This is uncalled for by all of you.
 
Seeing as how this deck uses cards from the next set, it may be better to wait for match ups against the decks that will be played, rather than older stuff like Kingdra and Gigas. I think we all know that G decks will move on past Toxitank/Dialga/Palkia builds too.

Much more relevant is how it will do against stuff like Gallade 4, Alakazam 4, Luxray GL and loads more cards I haven't seen the spoilers for. All of these decks are going to be helped out by SP Energy and more TGIs too.

It's a good, thorough article, and a very well built deck which is definitely going to make an impact, but match ups? Wait and see.
 
wow, there are some angry people in this thread (well, this forum)

anyways, im diggin the build. id reconsider the felicitys tho.

maybe -2 felicitys, + 1 tsd & +1 fighting
 
I completely agree on the matchups mario. I tried to note that in the bottom of my matchup section seeing as many of the foundation SP cards came out in PL and now with RR, they will have bases built on top of them (ie Gallade, Luxray, Infernape, Alakazam, etc.) I will absolutely be testing as soon as RR decks are established and popularized. For now though I just wanted to give some insight for the those that play older style decks.

Happiny- That is an excellent observation and one of my first variants actually ran Weavile SW as an accelerator. Unfortunately its record did not hold up against my current and I have found that moving around energies with the fighting is amazing when coupling with SW Flygon and Trapinch. Hippowdon also provides a great support line that is not always necessary but surely only helps with his high HP and potential to come out and do some heavy hitting.

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General- haha, I agree. I started originally with only 2 Felicity's but rarely got them in my first 7 for a good T1 Trapinch. I think TSD provides a great tech card to getting my pokes back but I will have to work on getting one (although the new lv x packs come with 1 I believe.) Anyways, I will definitely take the TSD into consideration.
 
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Arcanine LV.53 - Fire - HP100
Stage 1 Pokemon - Evolves from Growlithe

Poke-Body: Flare Condition
As long as this Pokemon has any Fire Energy attached to it, this Pokemon has no Weakness.

[R][C] Over Down: 30 damage. You may do an additional 30 damage. If you do, Arcanine is now Burned.
[R][C][C] Flames of Rage: 60 damage. Discard 1 Fire Energy attached to Arcanine and do an additional 10 damage times the number of damage counters on Arcanine.

Weakness: Water (+20)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
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It looks very good. No Weakness is def a plus for a Fire type. And yes, it's likely to be played with a nice RAGE attack It's fast and requires little setup. I know why it's voted as a potential thread. HOWEVER, isn't this the thing with ALL setup decks? Flygon/Hippowdon isn't any different from any other setup deck. YOU CAN'T outspeed speed decks, T1 decks and T2 decks with setup decks. So yes, FlyDon is going to have trouble against it. Still, once setup properly, I think Flygon will win this matchup as well.
 
Growlithe RR searches for fire energy and attaches T1. T2 Arcanine is ready to do 60+ 10 more for each damage counter. My T2 hope is Flygon doing 60-80 (plus body if SW) and then add the 20 damage from Grind Trapinch (T1) I think best case scenario he deals 80 to my Flygon and I deal a KO to his Arcanine on T2. I need to wait for a well built Arcanine deck before I can test though because I can not build a great one (not enough knowledge surrounding this card.)
 
Over Down is where it's at IMHO. It's set up easy T2 and with Life Herb and PokeHealer+, the Burn isn't that hard to deal with. That is why I think it outspeeds FlyDon
 
calisupra2nr said:
I think Arcanines hope of speedy setup is Ninetails which is reliant on coin flips (never a good thing). Other than that, T2 is 60 which by the constant speed I have with Flygon SHOULD provide a nice knockout (especially when combining burn in the mix). I will have to wait and see someones well built Arcanine deck to play test as I know I could not build the best option to test.
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The problem with hitting arcanine early on is that if you dont one shot him you're going to regret it.
Growlithe can get arcanine's rage going t2 by attaching for your turn, attaching for the attack then evolving to arcanine next turn and attaching.
 
Afstandopleren- In that case, I have a much better chance because I can take 60 much easier than 80. Even if they avoid the burn by play a herb or healer, I can deal hefty damage alone. (I need 2 benches to do 80 with Flygon RR or attaching with Flygon SW plus his body for the KO, when combined with Trapinch's Grind on T1) If they play a healer then obviously the game changes but that is all theory until I can test.

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BlisseyRocks said:
The problem with hitting arcanine early on is that if you dont one shot him you're going to regret it.
Growlithe can get arcanine's rage going t2 by attaching for your turn, attaching for the attack then evolving to arcanine next turn and attaching.
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Yeah I rewrote that whole post because I did not look at Growlithe until a second after I posted that.

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budpwnu said:
This deck will get leeeeeet pwnzored by kingdra. starmie runs train all up on this one. OHKO on the hippo, and GG to the lame insect as well. i suggest moar mudkipz
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Lol Buddy, once we go to PR and I have a tangible deck you and Mitch will cry. Starmie gets one hit the whole game and Hippowdon will never be active against him lol. Kingdra on the other hand does deal me a deadly match.
 
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