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Why so few Kyurem?

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I searched the forums but forgive me if I've overlooked the obvious.

Does anyone have any idea why Kyurem are so rare/hard to find and thereby expensive? :confused:

I figured it should/would be as plentiful as regular Zekrom/Reshiram since it's one of the trio of dragons but it's not. (Z/R even have their own tin for crying out loud:nonono:)

I've seen 3 boxes opened in real life and saw a pull rate of one or two per box? I've seen more full art N's and Fliptini's pulled than Kyurems at this point. My own son pulled the super ultra rare Meowth but only pulled 1 Kyurem?!?

Don't remember reading it was going to be super-duper, ultra rare when Zekroms and Reshirams weren't/aren't. And if so, why? Anybody have an explanation?
 
AJ, 1-2 per box is actually the norm for a card like Kyurem (regular holographic). Right now it's at about the level Emboar was before nationals: the only difference is that you don't have people freaking out and paying $30-$50 for it yet.

So...It may be frustrating right now, but have a little patience, and things will get better. Maybe there will be more reprints, or maybe the initial "hype" will die down, and it'll level to about $5-$8 territory.
 
I would imagine that they'll either give it to us as a promo later or because they want it to be a super expensive card, either way it still retains a good price. ppl will shell out more from a pack and even more because of how rare it is, and if the latter happens and we don't get it as a black star promo then it'll just be worth twice as much as the first case.
 
@OP - its called shortprinting. cards like that tend to be shortprinted (not as many copies printed as another rare), thereby creating demand for it, which in turn, results in more retailers purchasing more product to sell to us.
 
^ Where did you pull that from? This is just a card most people want and as a result you see few people turning loose of. That doesn't make it a 'short print'. In fact, there are just as many holo Kyurem available as there are any other regular holo from the set.
 
1 copy of a regular holo per box sounds about right. If you look you're probably only getting 1 of all the other holos per box also. Everyone also wants them, so when they do get one they trade/sell it for more than the other holos, even if they have the same pull rate.
 
r3skyline said:
@OP - its called shortprinting. cards like that tend to be shortprinted (not as many copies printed as another rare), thereby creating demand for it, which in turn, results in more retailers purchasing more product to sell to us.
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I would not be surprised if this were the case. Wasn't this what was happening with rare candy in sandstorm set? that card was like 20+, and forget about trying to get it reverse. I understand the card game isn't being run by the same ppl, and I don't want to start anything but it sure doesn't help that there are as many being pulled on the same level as ultra rares.
 
I opened 3 boxes and pulled 1 total. Decided to play in a draft and purchase 1 more box and ended up with 2 more.
By comparison, in my 3 boxes I pulled 3 Secret Meowth.
There are a couple rares I seem to have a TON of. Vanilluxe, Cofagrius and Fliptini. I guess they just want me to play Vanillla?
Rares I have much less of: Hydreggon(1 out of 4 boxes). Haxorus(2 out of 3 Boxes), Chandelure(2 out of 3 Boxes), Craftmanship Conkledurr(3 out of 4 Boxes).

Still swimming in Vanilluxes, Cofagrius and Archeops.
 
ArMILO: in the case of Rare Candy, it wasn't because the card itself was being shortprinted; it's because ALL uncommons were being printed less. That set actually had a mere two uncommons/pack, which led to the insane rates you're talking about.
 
^Maybe that's a sign to play Conkledurr...nah.

Don't forget the set is still newish, a couple weeks and they might lower a bit, and then there's the Chrismas bunch that'll hit. Big Holos like this have the same rate as normal ones, it's just more noticeable since more people want it.
 
Is there any evidence at all for short printing?

I think it's just people's perception. You tend to get 0-2 copies of a holo rare in a box anyway, but when it's something like Kyurem, you notice it more than when you don't pull an Eelektross.

Kyurem is going to be rarer than the other Dragons because BW boxes had the FA versions in them, while poor old Kyurem misses out.

In contrast to Honchvire, out of a box plus a few packs, I've only pulled 1 Cofagrigus, but I have got 4 Haxorus . . . I guess it all evens out in the end.
 
My box pulls were like this for regular holo

1st box:

1 Kyurem
1 Haxorus
1 N FA
1 Victini
1 Virizion FA
2 Conkeldur ability
2 Bisharp
1 Cobalion
1 Terrakion
1 Virizion
1 Eeelektross
2 Lnadorus
2 Victini (flip)
1 Leavany

2nd box
1 Virizion FA
1 Cobalion
1 Terrakion FA
2 Terrakion
2 Landorus
1 Victini
1 Kyurem
1 Eelektross
2 Bisharp
2 Haxorus
2 Leavany

0 Hydreigon
0 Secret meowths

Seems like the perception of 1-2 holos of the same kind is correct, but only if we exclude the reverse holo, while i got a total of 3 conkeldurs and 4 fliptini in the 1st box, and I still don`t know of anyone (out of ebay) that owns a reverse Kyurem, is safe to assume they are short print, while chandelure is most likely in the same category... I only got 1 from 2 boxes.
 
You guys got some upsetting pulls.
At the pre-releases I went I pulled 2
My friend Tyson pulled 3
His daughter pulled 2
Our friends PJ and Patrick pulled 2 and 1 respectively.
 
ALEXARD said:
Seems like the perception of 1-2 holos of the same kind is correct, but only if we exclude the reverse holo, while i got a total of 3 conkeldurs and 4 fliptini in the 1st box, and I still don`t know of anyone (out of ebay) that owns a reverse Kyurem, is safe to assume they are short print, while chandelure is most likely in the same category... I only got 1 from 2 boxes.
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It's not a safe assumption at all. Not based on 2 boxes and the people you know. You would need to know the contents of hundreds, if not thousands of boxes to get near a 'safe' assumption.

I got 3 Chandys and 4 Haxorus out of 1 box and 8 packs. Should I go around saying that Chandy and Haxorus are over printed (or whatever the equivalent is)? On the other hand I didn't get any Ability Conkledurr, while shortybronx12 (post #12) has 6. Are they short printing Conkledurr for the UK and stuffing boxes full of them wherever he lives? Of course not, but that's the kind of ridiculous conclusion you get if you base it on a relatively tiny sample size.

Until there is actual proof that TPCI makes a conscious decision to short print some cards, people shouldn't start throwing those words around. The rarity of Kyurem is easily explained by the fact that normal printing will result in 0-2 copies in a box, they've only just been released, and players are very reluctant to sell or trade them. Like most conspiracy theories, there is no need and no real evidence for this one.
 
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ajwalker said:
I searched the forums but forgive me if I've overlooked the obvious.

Does anyone have any idea why Kyurem are so rare/hard to find and thereby expensive? :confused:

I figured it should/would be as plentiful as regular Zekrom/Reshiram since it's one of the trio of dragons but it's not. (Z/R even have their own tin for crying out loud:nonono:)

I've seen 3 boxes opened in real life and saw a pull rate of one or two per box? I've seen more full art N's and Fliptini's pulled than Kyurems at this point. My own son pulled the super ultra rare Meowth but only pulled 1 Kyurem?!?

Don't remember reading it was going to be super-duper, ultra rare when Zekroms and Reshirams weren't/aren't. And if so, why? Anybody have an explanation?
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You've seen 1-2 a box!?! Where are you getting your boxes??? I've seen 0 per box-In everything I've opened, or witnessed being opened.

ShuckleLVX said:
I would love 1-2 a box. I got 0 in 2 boxes.
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I think the theory of all Holo Rares being like this is a little weird. I have 8 Elektross right now, 1 Kyurem, and 3 Conkelldur ability. In the box with the Kyurem was 4 Elektross, and 2 Conkelldur.

Yeah, I know it's not a large sample size, but I'm still inclined to believe that they stack the printing somewhat. (Which could be figured out with the print run)
 
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