Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Estimated Print Run of Cards?

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1)If WOTC employees printed their own cards it would have been years ago when they were in production. Which would eliminate the argument of "not enough fading" since it would still be over 10 years old.
2) I highly doubt that somebody would risk a multi million dollar law suit just to print up a few thousand dollars worth of Charizards.
3) Nintendo can't make the WOTC card stock (as far as I know, nobody can)
 
Crinus said:
only proof their is the fact its done by the government and the U.S. mint and at Upperdeck with yugioh before.

So obviously it has happened at TPC.
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How could we have been so blind?

If the government and the US mint do something it OBVIOUSLY is happening at TPCI.

There is nothing delusional about this whatsoever. An undated, unsourced image of a bright Charizard is one thing, but it's cold hard PROOF we are looking at now.

I wonder how we could explain that bright Charizard though. Hmmm . . .

Crinus said:
The thing is that picture was a PSA graded card
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Crinus said:
PSA and Beckett protectors on graded cards both protect from UV light.
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Could it be . . . ?
 
Crinus this is like your agrument...

Sample -

Is God real?
You can't say yes as there is no scientific proof, however you can't say no as there is no proof he is not real.

Do you follow?

How did someone disappear in the night?
A black hole appeared and sucked them through it. You can't deny it if you don't have proof and you can't say it did happen because you don't have proof!

You are saying on the basis

WoTC and TPC are printing fake cards
I can't say there not as I don't have proof (and this is the best part) However you cannot say they are unless you have physical Proof.

I'm saying you have a Hunch - That is not proof, and if you think it is, well my god you should not be a detective! lol

Now I don't know what your IQ is if you understand this line of thought and I am deeply sorry if I'm wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure I make decent sense.

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone about the God post - This is a sample question. Please don't take it seriously.
 
ahhhh.

no, the card was graded recently.

Even with its protection from UV light they still degrade slightly as have all Pokemon cards done over the years.

All this bickering and no one attempted to snap shot a Charizard at every angle possible to try and get that type of coloring.

Nor have they request where the full photo is to show its not a photoshop technique.

In doing some research with PSA, well here it is

http://nowbatting19.com/default/PsaSUCKSpage.html

that Mickey Mantle and is listed by PSA as well

http://www.psacard.com/CERT/90361904/


perhaps PSA aint very truthful like we think.

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FrostyFluxy said:
Crinus this is like your agrument...

Sample -

Is God real?
You can't say yes as there is no scientific proof, however you can't say no as there is no proof he is not real.

Do you follow?

How did someone disappear in the night?
A black hole appeared and sucked them through it. You can't deny it if you don't have proof and you can't say it did happen because you don't have proof!

You are saying on the basis

WoTC and TPC are printing fake cards
I can't say there not as I don't have proof (and this is the best part) However you cannot say they are unless you have physical Proof.

I'm saying you have a Hunch - That is not proof, and if you think it is, well my god you should not be a detective! lol

Now I don't know what your IQ is if you understand this line of thought and I am deeply sorry if I'm wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure I make decent sense.

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone about the God post - This is a sample question. Please don't take it seriously.
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Guess what, what proof I have told people to go and try has not been tried by anyone here yet has it?

one person says the card is a photoshopped card to bring out contrast and brightness, again can be shot down if they request the full image with other cards by its side.

Proof is there, you all just aint accepting it or dont want to accept it.
 
That is not proof the companies are illegally reprinting cards...
Proof would be if the companies Directors said, "We are printing our cards illegally OMG"

Oh no we can't get the Exact same angle and colour, definition, saturation, tone anything that must mean then it's a complete fake.
 
PSA is legitimate/truthful. Did you read the link you posted? The card IS Authentic. They just had an issue with them slabbing it because it was "trimmed".

PSA is by far the most popular/reputable grading and authentication company. Again, you are undermining experts who have dedicated a significant amount of their life to critically studying and becoming experts in their field.
 
It's your photo, you provide the evidence. You do know it's possible to use Photoshop to enhance one part of the image but not another, don't you?

Still waiting for your evidence to back up your point that what the government does 'obviously' (your word) happens at TPCI.

And now PSA has joined the conspiracy!

Tune in next week and discover how WotC faked the moon landing and hear about the TPCI employees who were standing on the Grassy Knoll when Kennedy was shot.
 
baby mario said:
It's your photo, you provide the evidence. You do know it's possible to use Photoshop to enhance one part of the image but not another, don't you?

Still waiting for your evidence to back up your point that what the government does 'obviously' (your word) happens at TPCI.

And now PSA has joined the conspiracy!

Tune in next week and discover how WotC faked the moon landing and hear about the TPCI employees who were standing on the Grassy Knoll when Kennedy was shot.
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be alot of trouble to do, plus their is a huge difference on ebay with cards like that from ones printed 10 years ago that are up there as well.

like I told off to Frosty on another site, any time fake, counterfeit, unauthorized printing is mentioned, I dont care where its at, the users registered at UPCCC popup and start a flame war with to defend everything about it, strikes a big red flag to me. Especially considering the fact numerous times that their was no specific target being mentioned in those dicussions.
 
talk about a circular argument: because the collectors who have been doing this for years and have amassed more knowledge than the ordinary player have shot down this conspiracy theory, they have to be part of it?

really?

'mom =/
 
Crinus said:
like I told off to Frosty on another site, any time fake, counterfeit, unauthorized printing is mentioned, I dont care where its at, the users registered at UPCCC popup and start a flame war with to defend everything about it, strikes a big red flag to me.
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Crinus, you aware that UPCCC was started well after Pokegym? The members on that site are mostly pokegym members who decided to join to discuss collecting aspects rather than playing. Majority of Pokegym is dedicated to players since it is competitive and the game invites constant dialogue on new strategies. It is just another forum to discuss pokemon with the emphasis being solely on collecting.
 
Crinus:


The fact that this thread has not been locked is truly a testament to the patience of the moderators here. You’re being absolutely ridiculous.

Argumentum ad ignorantiam is NOT the way to convince homebody of anything.
You’re also making the mistake of Affirming the Consequent.

Both are logical fallacies. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy#Material_Fallacies )

Address those issues with your argument, find some material proof, then get back to us.
“He said, she said” is not material proof. A written copy of the PSA grading sheet is.

I bet the TCPI folks are laughing their butts off right about now at how absurd your claims are.
 
Crinus, this forum did not always exist. In fact, it was the efforts of a few serious collectors on here who got the collecting forum to come into existence, it used to just be this old guy. Also, it is nice having an entire site to discuss all aspects of collecting. I value both the Gym and UPCCC.
 
I aint the one thats dragging it on, I could stop replying right now which I will and this topic will still go on about how I am always wrong and they are never wrong and say it cant possibly happen.

Lets see it dont happen.

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smpratte said:
Crinus, this forum did not always exist. In fact, it was the efforts of a few serious collectors on here who got the collecting forum to come into existence, it used to just be this old guy. Also, it is nice having an entire site to discuss all aspects of collecting. I value both the Gym and UPCCC.
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Pokegym has been around for years, since early 2000s if not the late 90s, I know plenty what has went on.
 
cards that are more than 10 years ago if they are not opened sometimes do keep their color.if people were producing these so called fake 1st edition cards the whole thing itself would make it look fake just by looking at it.the letters would be very very thin compared to a real one and the backround would be more darker than lighter.plus if either WotC or TCPI were ever to produce these things lawsuits would be filed like crazy over cards.people keep stuff in storage for a reason to protect valuables and to some pokemon cards are one of them.one may have a fresh new look to it but that can not mean its fake unless it was proven to be fake.
 
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