Vablakes said:
StrongRhino and JewelQuest need to explain why they jumped on the Human Destroyer bandwagon. I suspect him to be the wolf that desufnoc mentioned, but I don't have any concrete evidence, and I want to hear him defend himself. Even if you just quote the posts that stood out to you from other players that convinced you to vote for Human Destroyer.
First off, it was
PIKAJEWEL, my sister, who bandwagoned Human_Destroyer, not me. So, could you redirect your question towards her?
Kayle said:
JewelQuest, I'd like to hear your entire argument surrounding Human_Destroyer and also what you think of Vablakes and ProHawk.
I am assuming that you meant this for PikaJewel, but I shall answer your questions anyway.
My case against Human_Destroyer? I really don't have one. I seriously believe him to be a townie who felt the same way as I did about Vablakes, except that I am pretty sure that his 'role-fishing' was because of the fact that he is new.
I find that his tips were a good thing to post, since we seem to have several new players in this game, who may or may not have read the compendium thread.
About his
your instead of
our thing...He doesn't know whether or not he is speaking to a wolf, a townie, or an indie. It would hurt ANY of their win conditions to self-hammer.
What do I think about Vablakes? I find him to be an over-eager new townie that wants to help the town in all the ways that he can. If he is a wolf, then he will be easy to root out later, because of mistakes that he will make.
I do believe that he was 'role-fishing', but I do not believe that he was doing it on purpose.
What do I think about ProHawk? I am unsure on his alignment, but he has made several helpful posts, and seems to be actively hunting scum.
Scottistru said:
This post takes Tables' post and totally reshapes it. Tables said that the first line could be consider rolefishing (or rolephishing). However, he believes this is not what Vablakes intended, and makes it clear this is not an accusation. The question seems to be more noobness, and hardly has a trace of rolephishing. He isn't even trying to find a certain power role or expose a single person, he just wants to know what power roles there might be. Then JQ says she agrees with Tables, and the first line is rolefishing. She tries to may Vablakes look scummy with out taking credit for the accusation. Bonus scum points for JQ
I was never trying to make him look scummy. As I have stated in my response to Kayle, I believe him to have been 'role-fishing' but without realizing that he was doing so, which I suppose only makes it half 'role-fishing'.
Moving on
ProHawk said:
@Tables, I did see your posts and Jewel's posts, but you do realize that it was G Landers that was role-fishing right? Take a look at this post. Vablakes's question was clearly a sincere new player question, and I applaud his gusto to come right out and try to make discussion.
G landers said:
What kind of circumstances though? Sorry there must be some sort of role that I'am unaware of for a townie.
He doesn't come right out and ask about roles, but its more of an indirect route asking about circumstances being directly tied to some role.
QFT
Like what ProHawk said, this here is 'role-fishing'. He was not asking for the circumstances, but for a
specific role that a townie would have. Why would a townie do that?
Not only that, but he doesn't post again after that, and simply seems to melt into the shadows. What is up with that?
He needs to get his butt out here, and he needs to answer for his actions.
The one post he has posted is enough for him to warrant my vote.
Vote: G landers
Reason: Obvious role-fishing and inacitivity.
PikaJewel said:
Vote: Human Destroyer
Reason: Many people have already given well thought out reasons that make a lot of sense to me, wolves want to make themselves seem friendly, posting anything that will convince others that they aren't wolves.
Okay, I know that several people have already commented on this, but being your sister, I feel an obligation to post something. What on earth is
this?
I know I have bandwagoned quite a bit in the past, but at least try to make an effort to find your own case for a vote before you make one.
Vablakes said:
What on earth? FoSing me? I was just pointing out that you made a dumb play. You don't reveal things like that, it makes wolves more likely to target you and the town more likely to lynch you. And, you really shouldn't reveal a retaliatory role to the wolves, that is helping them. You are really going to FoS me for that? For now:
Vote: Crimsonsky
FoSing me for pointing something that you did out is crazy. Revealing a retaliator role is crazy. You must be a wolf.
*Sigh* I'd like to direct you to our last game. PMysterious was a townie the last game, and he let his emotions run free. The wolves used his emotions against him.
The one thing that you should learn as a townie is to keep your emotions in a cage. The wolves will use your emotions against you.
I find it perfectly fine to reveal a role like that. As many others have said, and he said himself, there are usually more townies than wolves, meaning that there is more chance of him killing(if that is what his role does) a seer or a cop that targets him.
But it also could be a clever tactic by a wolf, though by the way he is posting I find it unlikely. I believe that we should keep an eye on his day activity while having night roles steer clear.
