First, I just want to go on record that PMysterious is smarter than he looks. He recently was the deciding factor in our most recent game for a townie win and was able to accurately pick out the correct scum target in two successive LYLO days. While I don't agree with his current angle, I wouldn't just dismiss him to the side.
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Crimsonsky plays WW/mafia games on Serenes Forest where roles like the one he is claiming is common practice. This has huge implications with Crimsonsky's claim in that he would know exactly how to gambit this role successfully. This combined with the potential "I saved our Power Roles from nastiness" cred he would get (and has gotten) have me more than slightly worried. This fact (his experience) alone bumps the probability of his claim from being concerned townie to scum gambit up a few notches.
I don't know about any of you, but I have only seen retaliatory roles take effect when death is triggered and not based on being a target alone. The problem is with this claim we will never be able to target him at all to find out any true information. Scum or Town, true or not, this makes Crimsonsky very dangerous to keep around.
Really? So lets see... am I scum trying to pretend that I like hunting, or am I anxious town trying to actually enunciate what I love? All I see is a ball of uncertainty WIFOM you are trying to throw into the discussion. I can see scum motivation here.
And he doesn't understand Scum-101? I may have to re-read him when he provides more content.
@H_D - Post #379 is the scum-hunting that we need to see. I completely disagree with your angle, but at least I know where you stand. My read on you is slipping, but time will tell.
Unvote: Human Destroyer
Now onto the real meat of the post.
Vegitalian
Wow. I think I see what you are doing here. Before I start consider the following question.
How close are we to revealing roles/alignments?
I am agreed with Absol and DC725. Claimed is a very strong word. I myself have not claimed anyone as town, but have them on my list of reads as town. It's important to note that reads can and should change as more information presents itself. You were also very liberal in your use of defended claims.
So I tried to come up with a town-motivated reason as to why you made post #385, but I can't.
If you were town, why not just keep the notes to yourself until it would show a useful connection? We won't see flips for quite a while.
Then I realized that you were making an early association with Absoltrainer. He is the only person on your list that you listed with conflicting actions.
Ahh, yes, your intentions made clear.
Absol's points regarding your post are dead on. He hit the nail on the head.
Vote: Vegitalian
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ProHawk: Yes, scorri has discovered thanks to eclipse point this out that Crimsonsky is a player on Serenes as well so that could explain some of that.
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scorri would also like to talk about Crimsonsky telling people to not target him at night. scorri sees no problem with this as it is a common practice on Serenes Forest where she usually plays mafia.
Crimsonsky plays WW/mafia games on Serenes Forest where roles like the one he is claiming is common practice. This has huge implications with Crimsonsky's claim in that he would know exactly how to gambit this role successfully. This combined with the potential "I saved our Power Roles from nastiness" cred he would get (and has gotten) have me more than slightly worried. This fact (his experience) alone bumps the probability of his claim from being concerned townie to scum gambit up a few notches.
I don't know about any of you, but I have only seen retaliatory roles take effect when death is triggered and not based on being a target alone. The problem is with this claim we will never be able to target him at all to find out any true information. Scum or Town, true or not, this makes Crimsonsky very dangerous to keep around.
No.
We all should be hunting wolves. That is obvious. But what drove you and Sheepbro to state the blatantly obvious before the game started?
Statements like those (similar in vein to Tables' "one usually sees two scum factions at those numbers.") can be mis/leading to members of the village, subconsciously telling them what you want them to believe.
Really? So lets see... am I scum trying to pretend that I like hunting, or am I anxious town trying to actually enunciate what I love? All I see is a ball of uncertainty WIFOM you are trying to throw into the discussion. I can see scum motivation here.
Luster isn't new to this game.
And he doesn't understand Scum-101? I may have to re-read him when he provides more content.
@H_D - Post #379 is the scum-hunting that we need to see. I completely disagree with your angle, but at least I know where you stand. My read on you is slipping, but time will tell.
Unvote: Human Destroyer
Now onto the real meat of the post.
Vegitalian
Wow. I think I see what you are doing here. Before I start consider the following question.
How close are we to revealing roles/alignments?
I am agreed with Absol and DC725. Claimed is a very strong word. I myself have not claimed anyone as town, but have them on my list of reads as town. It's important to note that reads can and should change as more information presents itself. You were also very liberal in your use of defended claims.
So I tried to come up with a town-motivated reason as to why you made post #385, but I can't.
If you were town, why not just keep the notes to yourself until it would show a useful connection? We won't see flips for quite a while.
Then I realized that you were making an early association with Absoltrainer. He is the only person on your list that you listed with conflicting actions.
a) if you're a wolf, you're definitely going to contest my post if you tried to defend a fellow wolf
b) if you're a townie, you either backed a wolf without good reason, or you have nothing to worry about
If you think I wrongly put you on my list, you can quote your post and explain your reasoning behind it (it's a long list, I'm not going to quote all of the posts) - chances are that's a bad idea though.
Ahh, yes, your intentions made clear.
Absol's points regarding your post are dead on. He hit the nail on the head.
Vote: Vegitalian