Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!
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Kayle
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Because I don't understand a lot of what's going on right now and still don't really have the energy to respond to some things I feel like I should respond to.
re: Vegitalian's reveal. EVERYTHING about this reveal and his play and logic surrounding it just scream newbtown to me, which is consistent with my opinion of him as it formed from AT's argument with him and from the rest of his play, so if someone could explicitly in stupid-person terms explain to me how his reveal looks scummy, that'd be great.
As such Absoltrainer remains my favored scum candidate for today because his attempts to push the Vegitalian lynch would be beneficial from a scum perspective whether vegitalian is scum or not - if veg is scum it makes him look good and makes for a scattered town where the wolves could have easily taken either side of the debate at any time; if veg is town they get a free town kill.
I feel like jpulice is the Libertarian Party of this election. I'd like to vote for him, too, but I'm worried that we may need too many votes to spare them for a third argument with the day ending in about 27 hours.
re: Vegitalian's reveal. EVERYTHING about this reveal and his play and logic surrounding it just scream newbtown to me, which is consistent with my opinion of him as it formed from AT's argument with him and from the rest of his play, so if someone could explicitly in stupid-person terms explain to me how his reveal looks scummy, that'd be great.
As such Absoltrainer remains my favored scum candidate for today because his attempts to push the Vegitalian lynch would be beneficial from a scum perspective whether vegitalian is scum or not - if veg is scum it makes him look good and makes for a scattered town where the wolves could have easily taken either side of the debate at any time; if veg is town they get a free town kill.
I feel like jpulice is the Libertarian Party of this election. I'd like to vote for him, too, but I'm worried that we may need too many votes to spare them for a third argument with the day ending in about 27 hours.
vegitalian
New Member
Initial post - several people read it as role-fishing. It might have just been a conversation-starter.
FoS' 4 players by Page 10 - trying to take off some heat probably?
Takes it back immediately, stating "I believe you". Realizes at this point 'maybe I shouldn't make that many enemies off the bat' (my interpretation).
Immediately after FoS' Crimson for saying that he shouldn't be targeted at night.
FoS' Crimson and after he gets FoS'd back, Vablakes votes him. He seems to be taking a lot for granted given his inexperience. Either he's played this before (doubtful), or theorymoning his way into making crimson look bad.
Contradicts himself saying that it could be a good play.
---There are almost 20 more pages of him frequently posting: See A/T's post here (if you have a couple of hours)---
Finally, "Townies get lynched. It happens." is an extremely scummy thing to say - especially for an admittedly new player.
Vablakes and I are both playing bad; making seemingly scummy moves. The last sentence strikes me as odd. The difference is that I've laid my cards on the table and we have limited time left. I'm giving you a chance to avoid voting out a townie, and vote someone that has made some scummy plays. One day left - let's go guys.
VOTE: Vablakes
(Before anyone accuses me of OMGUS'ing, I would like to point out that I have 15 votes against me. It's getting hard to NOT OMGUS, and that Vablakes has OMGUSed to the same extent I have)
Also, I read through jpulice's posts but didn't catch the scum. Can someone summarize why they think he's scummy?
JewelQuest
New Member
I don't see how Gareth has a tie to Mordred. It was Lancelot who killed him, not Mordred. Now, if he had named claimed Gawaine, that would be a different story.
But I'd like to say that if there are any other Knights of the Round table out there, they should NOT say so. I find it very likely that, with there being more than one Knight, that Mordred is possibly out there, and if so, I find it likely that he has a role much like the Pokemon Hunter J in AT's last game.
Pokemon Hunter J's win condition was to kill all of the Pokemon, and live to the end of the game.
I find it likely that, if Mordred exists, that he has a similar win condition, except about the Knights.
Also, with us going down to about a day and a third left, we need to decide our lynch, or there isn't going to be one.
But I'd like to say that if there are any other Knights of the Round table out there, they should NOT say so. I find it very likely that, with there being more than one Knight, that Mordred is possibly out there, and if so, I find it likely that he has a role much like the Pokemon Hunter J in AT's last game.
Pokemon Hunter J's win condition was to kill all of the Pokemon, and live to the end of the game.
I find it likely that, if Mordred exists, that he has a similar win condition, except about the Knights.
Also, with us going down to about a day and a third left, we need to decide our lynch, or there isn't going to be one.
Replies in bold. Also, my opinion as to why you are pointing your finger at me. It is an OMGUS against me. You also saw that I made some mistakes earlier in the game and are bringing them up now, to put pressure on people that aren't you. You know you are getting lynched, and you are just trying to convince people that I'm not town, which I am. I'm sure know that, too, since I am 99% sure that you are a wolf. Instead of pointing your finger at me and taking a sentence out of context to make me look scummy, why don't you give us a reason not to lynch you? Because all you have done so far is what you accused me of in your post: trying to take the heat off of yourself. Instead of attacking others, why don't you defend yourself? Give us some proof that you are town. Your whole post just made my vote for you even less likely to go away.
vegitalian
New Member
I wasn't criticizing that you posted a lot. Lots of material within those 20 posts that A/T went into detail on was what I meant.
As for your response, I explained that I have 15 votes - most people that are trying to lose heat (from past scummy posts) are bandwagoning on the person with the most votes, so it's natural that I'm going to pick someone on my bandwagon. You have been OMGUS'ing as well.
I don't know that I am getting lynched and I refuse to accept it until it happens. My best chance at a lynch is AbsolTrainer, but I'm not going to vote him because I've had a change of heart. I'm not going to vote for someone I think is townie just to get a lynch and brush it off as "Townies get lynched. It happens".
I gave my proof, but I don't think everyone is seeing it from my angle. What type of proof do you want to see from me? What would convince you I'm townie?
I don't even know what would convince me that you are a townie. Honestly, you really haven't been defending yourself very well, and I think that it will take a miracle to convince a lot of people that you are not scum. And you really don't have long. Lynching you is the best option IMO. You were acting super scummy, and even tried to make connections between people where there weren't any. (For example, PP101 and I). You were not defending yourself at all and were instead going after other people to try and put attention on them instead of yourself. I feel like you were role fishing a while back. You would completely ignore any valid points made against you. You were taking parts of posts out of context to make others look scummy and make you look good. That is why I voted for you. I did not bandwagon. I feel that you are the best option for a lynch. And, if you flip town, I will have no regrets. You have been playing scummy and your only real defense was a role name reveal. That doesn't tell us much about your role, and it could have easily have been faked.
JewelQuest
New Member
Forgot to mention something in my last post: If vegitalion is telling the truth, than any characters in this game is before Gareth died. Which means that both Lancelot, and and Gawaine, and any other characters that would be deemed 'bad' because of the death of Gareth(besides Mordred, who, as many have pointed out, was always against Arthur and the Knights) would probably likely to be 'good'.
To bold: What do you mean, you won't have any regrets? I can understand not dwelling over it, but it is bad news if we flip over a townie this early in the game, with the wolves probably having the most advantage as it is.
To bold: What do you mean, you won't have any regrets? I can understand not dwelling over it, but it is bad news if we flip over a townie this early in the game, with the wolves probably having the most advantage as it is.
Sandslash7
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I don't like the bold. And you know what? Vegi's response to this, as well as his not-vote of Absol, are bringing his "lean-town" up for me. Vegi's most recent posts have not been "acting like scum."
1) You say you think Vegi is lying, but he has had 2 other players vouch for his name claim. Are those players both lying? And do you think that we should go after them if Vegi is lynched and flips wolf?
You also say that you couldn't care less (have no regrets) if he flipped town. And you say you don't know if you could be convinced that Vegi is town.
Someone who says he won't be remorseful after a town flip is not a player who is acting pro-town, nor is it an attitude that the town should have. You have escalated quickly from newb-town to acting completely scummy, Vablakes. You also are completely dead-set on your lynch, and don't even care that Vegi has recently been pro-town.
2) You seem to be of the opinion that the village should just lynch people and see their flips, then determine what should be thought of them after we see their role card. I don't like it. This is a careless way to play WW, and is completely backwards. There can be a great many things garnered from leaving a player alive, rather than just giving up and saying "whatever, we'll figure out whether you are telling the truth or not once you are dead. We'll find a wolf eventually. Collateral damage is whatever." That is a defeatist attitude and scummy (scum will always want a lynch, no matter what, they don't care who).
No.
UNVOTE: VEGITALIAN
VOTE: VABLAKES
For ignoring the good things that Vegitalian did the past few posts, as well as having a scummy attitude/playstyle about lynching and WW in general.
Name claims until we start to see patterns will be useless to determine alignment. Jellyfisher I believe said it best first. Do you really believe all scum will have characters like Darth Vader while all town have characters like Luke Skywalker? Considering what has been discussed, I would be surprised if that were the case here. Again, we would need to see role-card flips to establish a baseline on which to judge if that were the case or not.
Vegitalian, thank you for finally getting to the bottom of my questions. You are moving to more of a town read for me.
My initial case on Vegi was directly related to the associations post he made and his motivations behind such. In light of being directly asked to contribute more by Kayle preceding the offending post shifts his motivation to the townie side despite his inconsistencies in it. This was something that I completely missed when reading that section of the thread. Probably due to the immediate reaction to the post by Absol.
Unvote: Vegitalian
I read both Absol and Vegi as town and motion to move onto another lynch target. My second choice was Human Destroyer whom I still find scummy, however Vegi's post regarding Vablakes made me take a closer look at his posts.
I feel like Absol's plan did have a silver lining despite tunneling someone who I believe is town, and that is with Vablakes.
Vablakes made it very clear that he is new here. I originally read his a newb-town, and also dismissed most of his "mistakes" as he called them due to that. In retrospect, however I asked myself one question.
What is the difference between newb-town and newb-scum?
The answer to that question that I came up with was coaching. His mistakes, along with the reason of using a gambit seem like he was coached, especially when he posts about making a play. I could easily see him getting into trouble and waiting to get some help from his team before digging any deeper.
Finally, I feel like he is way overreacting to the vote that vegitalian placed on him. I think he is scared, and for good reason.
While his logic is somewhat sound here, it is way too nonchalant for my liking. His tone sounds like he just doesn't care.
Doesn't care, doesn't care... notice he repeats his argument "haven't been defending yourself" three different times (In Blue). He already has no regrets. Do you know what vegitalians alignment is already Vablakes? Why do you feel the need to defend yourself for lynching Vegitalian so adamently?
Vote: Vablakes
Vegitalian, thank you for finally getting to the bottom of my questions. You are moving to more of a town read for me.
My initial case on Vegi was directly related to the associations post he made and his motivations behind such. In light of being directly asked to contribute more by Kayle preceding the offending post shifts his motivation to the townie side despite his inconsistencies in it. This was something that I completely missed when reading that section of the thread. Probably due to the immediate reaction to the post by Absol.
Unvote: Vegitalian
I read both Absol and Vegi as town and motion to move onto another lynch target. My second choice was Human Destroyer whom I still find scummy, however Vegi's post regarding Vablakes made me take a closer look at his posts.
I feel like Absol's plan did have a silver lining despite tunneling someone who I believe is town, and that is with Vablakes.
Vablakes made it very clear that he is new here. I originally read his a newb-town, and also dismissed most of his "mistakes" as he called them due to that. In retrospect, however I asked myself one question.
What is the difference between newb-town and newb-scum?
The answer to that question that I came up with was coaching. His mistakes, along with the reason of using a gambit seem like he was coached, especially when he posts about making a play. I could easily see him getting into trouble and waiting to get some help from his team before digging any deeper.
Finally, I feel like he is way overreacting to the vote that vegitalian placed on him. I think he is scared, and for good reason.
While his logic is somewhat sound here, it is way too nonchalant for my liking. His tone sounds like he just doesn't care.
Doesn't care, doesn't care... notice he repeats his argument "haven't been defending yourself" three different times (In Blue). He already has no regrets. Do you know what vegitalians alignment is already Vablakes? Why do you feel the need to defend yourself for lynching Vegitalian so adamently?
Vote: Vablakes
Now, SS7, you need to also look at what I was responding to with the first one. He was saying that he doesn't want to lynch someone who might be town. Saying that anyone could be town or wolf and that townies get lynched sometimes is true. It isn't scummy. You follow your reads, vote for who you think is scum, and sometimes they turn out to be town. That is all I was saying. How does that translate to scum? Do you think that "sometimes townies get lynched"="lets lynch all the townies"? I just don't understand.
Vegitalian has been a bit better recently, yes, but that doesn't excuse what he did before. Creatng links between players where there were none. Not defending himself against any attacks, but, rather, attacking other peole instead of defending himself, ect. Could that all be newbtown? Yes. But I have seen nothing to convince me that it is. I am almost positive that he is scum, so that is why I am persuing this lynch. If evidence comes to light that makes me think that he is not a wolf, I will unvote for him. Simple as that.
And that brings me to my next point. When I said that I will have no regrets if he is lynched and flips town, I meant that I will have no regrets. Why? Because he is acting like scum, whether or not he is town. Should I regret lynching someone who is acting scummy if they flip town? No. Why? Because there was nothing that convinced me that they were town so I went for it. I voted for them. If you lynch me for acting scummy and I flip town, are you going to regret it? No. Because you thought I was scum and voted for me.
And just because people also say they are from his dimension does not in any way make vegitalian non wolf. There could easily be townies and wolves from each dimension.
Vegitalian has been a bit better recently, yes, but that doesn't excuse what he did before. Creatng links between players where there were none. Not defending himself against any attacks, but, rather, attacking other peole instead of defending himself, ect. Could that all be newbtown? Yes. But I have seen nothing to convince me that it is. I am almost positive that he is scum, so that is why I am persuing this lynch. If evidence comes to light that makes me think that he is not a wolf, I will unvote for him. Simple as that.
And that brings me to my next point. When I said that I will have no regrets if he is lynched and flips town, I meant that I will have no regrets. Why? Because he is acting like scum, whether or not he is town. Should I regret lynching someone who is acting scummy if they flip town? No. Why? Because there was nothing that convinced me that they were town so I went for it. I voted for them. If you lynch me for acting scummy and I flip town, are you going to regret it? No. Because you thought I was scum and voted for me.
And just because people also say they are from his dimension does not in any way make vegitalian non wolf. There could easily be townies and wolves from each dimension.
Absoltrainer
Active Member
Vegitilian
I've been tossing around your situation a lot. I've looked at your recent posts. I've gone back and reanalyzed a lot of stuff. I HAVE taken into account your unvote and role reveal.
Unvote: Vegitilian
Vote: Vablakes
Vablakes was always on my radar, and has been this entire time, his connection being one of the big reasons I jumped on Vegitilian in the first place (the other stuff didn't help the situation). One thing that caught my eye was how Vablakes responded to my grilling of Vegitilian. When he responded to me, he still had that very submissive “I’m not here to offend anyone” tone in his writing. Despite that I shifted gears in who I was grilling, he never left my suspicions. His latest posts follow suite and it caught my eye that he was posting surprisingly better. One thing that bugged me was how, after writing a huge case against him, he sided with me and voted for Vegitilian. My first thought was "wolf voting wolf to seem town," however, could it be wolf voting town to seem harmless?" If Vegitilian did flip town, it would put my entire case up for question, including my case against Vablakes. More than that, it would have most likely put me on the chopping block.
The above scenario is something I would try to do if I was a wolf (I know dangerous wording, but just keep reading) however that’s basing of my current experience. As a new wolf back in the day (I know hypocrite bringing up experience) I would have never even thought of trying to pull something like that off. Adding to what Prohawk said, IF there is coaching involved, I could see Vablakes being told to take advantage of the situation in that way.
Vegitilian I don’t like to admit I’m wrong, but I won’t dismiss the possibility that we are both townspeople. I still have my suspicions and I will be watching you, however, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt…for now. I would like it on record that I 100% think Mordred is in the game, and is a wolf. I suggest we watch all three people who claim to be from the King Arthur Universe.
I've been tossing around your situation a lot. I've looked at your recent posts. I've gone back and reanalyzed a lot of stuff. I HAVE taken into account your unvote and role reveal.
Unvote: Vegitilian
Vote: Vablakes
Vablakes was always on my radar, and has been this entire time, his connection being one of the big reasons I jumped on Vegitilian in the first place (the other stuff didn't help the situation). One thing that caught my eye was how Vablakes responded to my grilling of Vegitilian. When he responded to me, he still had that very submissive “I’m not here to offend anyone” tone in his writing. Despite that I shifted gears in who I was grilling, he never left my suspicions. His latest posts follow suite and it caught my eye that he was posting surprisingly better. One thing that bugged me was how, after writing a huge case against him, he sided with me and voted for Vegitilian. My first thought was "wolf voting wolf to seem town," however, could it be wolf voting town to seem harmless?" If Vegitilian did flip town, it would put my entire case up for question, including my case against Vablakes. More than that, it would have most likely put me on the chopping block.
The above scenario is something I would try to do if I was a wolf (I know dangerous wording, but just keep reading) however that’s basing of my current experience. As a new wolf back in the day (I know hypocrite bringing up experience) I would have never even thought of trying to pull something like that off. Adding to what Prohawk said, IF there is coaching involved, I could see Vablakes being told to take advantage of the situation in that way.
Vegitilian I don’t like to admit I’m wrong, but I won’t dismiss the possibility that we are both townspeople. I still have my suspicions and I will be watching you, however, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt…for now. I would like it on record that I 100% think Mordred is in the game, and is a wolf. I suggest we watch all three people who claim to be from the King Arthur Universe.
You realized that you already dismissed this possibility in a previous statement right?
I don't even know sounds like there isn't anything that would convince you to me... am I wrong? What made you change your mind?
Diaz
New Member
So I read SS7's post and really liked the vote. I read through his posts and decided to come back and cast a vote for him citing this
Unvote Absoltrainer
Vote Vablakes
I typed the above, then went into advanced mode to make sure it looked on and add a question to Absoltrainer. Basically "What do you think of this vote on Vablakes?" Turns out he posted since answering that question. I like this lynch better than our alternatives, and I like how players who had been arguing pretty strongly with each other are coming together for this vote. Shows that we aren't letting arguments get personal.
in addition to the stuff SS7 pointed out. Turns out Prohawk beat me to it. That line tells me he's made up his mind and nothing could move him from his position. When playing this game, being willing to change your position based on new evidence is critical.
Unvote Absoltrainer
Vote Vablakes
I typed the above, then went into advanced mode to make sure it looked on and add a question to Absoltrainer. Basically "What do you think of this vote on Vablakes?" Turns out he posted since answering that question. I like this lynch better than our alternatives, and I like how players who had been arguing pretty strongly with each other are coming together for this vote. Shows that we aren't letting arguments get personal.
Absoltrainer
Active Member
I would also like to address something else. In my previous post, as well as my GIANT post, I noted how Vablakes consistently responded in a very submissive, "you're right," "I don't want to offend" tone. His last two posts have been completely 180 in this regard
I find this extremely odd, and go back to my statement about how he voted for Vegitialian and sided with me.
My BIGGEST push for the Vablakes being scum case was banking on Vegitilian flipping scum. I stated multiple times that if Vegitilian flips scum we need to look into Vablakes. I emphasized that connection between them. My case against Vablakes relied on it. So why is he so eager to see Vegitilian lynched? It doesn’t save him, it dooms him….unless Vegititilian isn’t a wolf
If Vegitilian flips town, it puts anything I said connecting the two to support my case in question and nulls the connection. It weakens my case against Vablakes and would most likely put me up as the next day lynch.
I think Vablakes jumped the gun a bit, and got a bit excited when he saw Vegitilian was going down because it goes with the wolf plan. We can see this change in emotion by the way he is posting. I think we may have found a wolf….
I find this extremely odd, and go back to my statement about how he voted for Vegitialian and sided with me.
My BIGGEST push for the Vablakes being scum case was banking on Vegitilian flipping scum. I stated multiple times that if Vegitilian flips scum we need to look into Vablakes. I emphasized that connection between them. My case against Vablakes relied on it. So why is he so eager to see Vegitilian lynched? It doesn’t save him, it dooms him….unless Vegititilian isn’t a wolf
If Vegitilian flips town, it puts anything I said connecting the two to support my case in question and nulls the connection. It weakens my case against Vablakes and would most likely put me up as the next day lynch.
I think Vablakes jumped the gun a bit, and got a bit excited when he saw Vegitilian was going down because it goes with the wolf plan. We can see this change in emotion by the way he is posting. I think we may have found a wolf….
Wow, really? I said that I don't know what would convince me that he is townie, not that nothing could convince me that he is townie. There is a difference.
@everyone else, I'm going to bed now. I'll post more in the morning.
Diaz
New Member
You should strongly consider going all out in whatever defense you can muster. Momentum is building behind you. If you have something good up your sleeve, post it sooner rather than later.
Absoltrainer
Active Member
This is Vablakes responding to my GIANT post where I call him a wolf and connect him to Vegitilian as the main factor. http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2364773&postcount=630
Note the tone of writing, the word-choice, the submissive tone, and finally the fact that he sides with me.
Compared to:
Defensive, slighly aggressive, frustrated.
That "innoccent new player" feel is missing from his writing tone.
The more I look at his old posts and his new ones, the more I agree with Prohawk: Coaching
If Vablakes flips scum I will very much consider that Vegitilian is indeed town and perhaps we were both being taken advantage of. In fact if Vablakes flips scum, we should go back and see who and more importantly HOW people supported the Vegitilian vote. If I was wrong (and I very well MIGHT have been) we might have had wolves trying to add to the fire.
I said before, I don't like admitting I'm wrong, anyone following this thread should know that by now. If something is making me consider it, it might be looking into.
Note the tone of writing, the word-choice, the submissive tone, and finally the fact that he sides with me.
Compared to:
Defensive, slighly aggressive, frustrated.
That "innoccent new player" feel is missing from his writing tone.
The more I look at his old posts and his new ones, the more I agree with Prohawk: Coaching
If Vablakes flips scum I will very much consider that Vegitilian is indeed town and perhaps we were both being taken advantage of. In fact if Vablakes flips scum, we should go back and see who and more importantly HOW people supported the Vegitilian vote. If I was wrong (and I very well MIGHT have been) we might have had wolves trying to add to the fire.
I said before, I don't like admitting I'm wrong, anyone following this thread should know that by now. If something is making me consider it, it might be looking into.
pokemonplayer101
New Member
Hey, look at this! A post from PokemonPlayer101! 
Alright, about the name-claim Gareth thing: the game's called "Dimensional Clash" for a reason. I'm a Pokemon. :/
Not sure who to vote for. Vablakes has changed his attitude completely, jpulice has kind of slinked away, yet the day ends tomorrow. Unfortunately I won't be able to be too active tomorrow, so I'm not sure what to do here...
I think I'm going to keep my vote on Vegitalian. We need 23 votes for a lynch, and Vegi has the most atm. I'll try my best to keep up via my 3DS or my mom's phone (no cell phone for me... :frown: ), so if a vote change is needed, hopefully I'll be able to make that change. Not makin' any promises, though.
Alright, about the name-claim Gareth thing: the game's called "Dimensional Clash" for a reason. I'm a Pokemon. :/
Not sure who to vote for. Vablakes has changed his attitude completely, jpulice has kind of slinked away, yet the day ends tomorrow. Unfortunately I won't be able to be too active tomorrow, so I'm not sure what to do here...
I think I'm going to keep my vote on Vegitalian. We need 23 votes for a lynch, and Vegi has the most atm. I'll try my best to keep up via my 3DS or my mom's phone (no cell phone for me... :frown: ), so if a vote change is needed, hopefully I'll be able to make that change. Not makin' any promises, though.
I still think that the KotR reveal needs to be looked at closely in the next game day or 2. I think at least 1 of the 3 are scum, but since I can't pinpoint it I'm going to remove my vote from any of them.
Unvote: Vegitalian
I really don't like vablakes statement that he made in post 696. A bunch of us had just mentioned that there was no way for anyone to prove that they were town today and you go ahead and ask vegi to prove that he was town. The whole "townies get lynched" thing rubs me the wrong way too. Yes, over the course of the game some members of the town will get lynched for any number of reasons, but just saying meh, "it happens" doesn't help at all.
For now I'm changing my vote to
Vote: vablakes
If you can build a defense over the course of the next day I'll remove my vote, but for now it stands.
On another note, I'm attending a cities tomorrow, so I'll only be able to periodically check. If a vote gets too close to a lynch I'll probably remove my vote just so I could read all the posts before making sure the vote stands.
Unvote: Vegitalian
I really don't like vablakes statement that he made in post 696. A bunch of us had just mentioned that there was no way for anyone to prove that they were town today and you go ahead and ask vegi to prove that he was town. The whole "townies get lynched" thing rubs me the wrong way too. Yes, over the course of the game some members of the town will get lynched for any number of reasons, but just saying meh, "it happens" doesn't help at all.
For now I'm changing my vote to
Vote: vablakes
If you can build a defense over the course of the next day I'll remove my vote, but for now it stands.
On another note, I'm attending a cities tomorrow, so I'll only be able to periodically check. If a vote gets too close to a lynch I'll probably remove my vote just so I could read all the posts before making sure the vote stands.