So, let's get some conversation going.
What kind of roles do we expect to see in a game this big? Surely, there have to be quite a few in a game this big.
How many wolves do we think there are?
How are we going to get 23 people to vote for the same person? That is going to be difficult.
Do we use RVS day one to put pressure on random people to see how they react? Who knows, we might make one of the wolves slip up. Or do we wait to see if anyone acts suspicious?
Sorry if those are some nooby questions, but I am a noob.
I really don't know guys. I'm just gonna state the obvious.
Scorri wasn't posting like that before. Speaking in third person could be a way for her to not slip and say something wolf-like. Like the common "Your" instead of "Our" when referring to the town. I dunno, fishy, but not enough to get my vote just yet. Much more of the whole third person will get my vote.
The Human Destroyer situation is interesting. He could be trying to put information out there for all the noobs, or he could be trying to make it look that way so that he seems pro-town. The whole voting for me thing is understandable, it did seem like I was role fishing, and I'll admit that it did look that way. He could have been just trying to put pressure on to see how I would react, or he could have been trying to start a bandwagon to get me lynched.
I just love how jpulice says that prohawk already leans town. (see post 213). It's just like he wants us to not be suspicious of prohawk. For that reason:
FoS:
Scorri
Human Destroyer
jpulice (gimme that link to the offsite game and I'll remove you and prohawk)
prohawk
Ok, I believe you. My FoS is off of you and prohawk now. I would answer your question, but I don't understand just what you are trying to ask me. Perhaps different wording?
Is it just me, or does it seem like what Crimsonsky just did is a really bad idea? I mean, if you are on our side, wouldn't you want the wolves to target you at night if your role damages them in some way? Revealing that they shouldn't target you at night would only help them.
FoS: Crimsonsky.
What on earth? FoSing me? I was just pointing out that you made a dumb play. You don't reveal things like that, it makes wolves more likely to target you and the town more likely to lynch you. And, you really shouldn't reveal a retaliatory role to the wolves, that is helping them. You are really going to FoS me for that? For now:
Vote: Crimsonsky
FoSing me for pointing something that you did out is crazy. Revealing a retaliator role is crazy. You must be a wolf.
Ok, I think I understand more of why he did that now. I was just trying to put some pressure on him, get a responce, hoping he would slip up. I don't know what reason I gave for him to FoS me. Crimsonsky, please explain your logic for FoSing me. For now:
Unvote: Crimsonsky
What you did could be considered a good play, depending on what role you have. It could be an awful one, too. Either way, don't reveal more about your role.
Anyone might be townie. Anyone might be a wolf. If we are going by your logic, we will never get anywhere. Townies get lynched. It happens. It is not a bad idea to lynch someone who is acting like scum. It is a bad idea to lynch someone who leans town. I'm not saying JP does, heck, I'm not saying that anyone does.
Vegitalian, you still seem like you really need to be lynched. I don't believe that you are Gareth, and until you can prove otherwise, I will be voting for you. Mostly because of the reasons I listed before.
Vote: vegitalian
Initial post - several people read it as role-fishing. It might have just been a conversation-starter.
FoS' 4 players by Page 10 - trying to take off some heat probably?
I FoSed those players because they were suspicious.
Takes it back immediately, stating "I believe you". Realizes at this point 'maybe I shouldn't make that many enemies off the bat' (my interpretation).
Because they told me where to find the link to the inside joke that made me suspicious of them in the first place. After that, I had no reason to be suspicious of them.
Immediately after FoS' Crimson for saying that he shouldn't be targeted at night.
FoS' Crimson and after he gets FoS'd back, Vablakes votes him. He seems to be taking a lot for granted given his inexperience. Either he's played this before (doubtful), or theorymoning his way into making crimson look bad.
Because I was thinking, "why would he FoS me for FoSing him?". It was a pressure vote to see how he reacted. FoSing me for FoSing him seemed scummy to me.
Contradicts himself saying that it could be a good play.
Because someone explained why it could be a good play and it made sense.
---There are almost 20 more pages of him frequently posting: See A/T's post
How is that a case against me? Posting often is a good thing.
here (if you have a couple of hours)---
Finally, "Townies get lynched. It happens." is an extremely scummy thing to say - especially for an admittedly new player.
When you take it out of context it is. When you look at what I was actually saying, it isn't. Sheepbro was saying that he didn't want to lynch someone who might be a townie, and I said that anyone could be a townie or a wolf, and townies get lynched sometimes. How is tyat in the slightest bit scummy?
Vablakes and I are both playing bad; making seemingly scummy moves. The last sentence strikes me as odd. The difference is that I've laid my cards on the table and we have limited time left. I'm giving you a chance to avoid voting out a townie, and vote someone that has made some scummy plays. One day left - let's go guys.
VOTE: Vablakes
(Before anyone accuses me of OMGUS'ing, I would like to point out that I have 15 votes against me. It's getting hard to NOT OMGUS, and that Vablakes has OMGUSed to the same extent I have)
Also, I read through jpulice's posts but didn't catch the scum. Can someone summarize why they think he's scummy?
Replies in bold. Also, my opinion as to why you are pointing your finger at me. It is an OMGUS against me. You also saw that I made some mistakes earlier in the game and are bringing them up now, to put pressure on people that aren't you. You know you are getting lynched, and you are just trying to convince people that I'm not town, which I am. I'm sure know that, too, since I am 99% sure that you are a wolf. Instead of pointing your finger at me and taking a sentence out of context to make me look scummy, why don't you give us a reason not to lynch you? Because all you have done so far is what you accused me of in your post: trying to take the heat off of yourself. Instead of attacking others, why don't you defend yourself? Give us some proof that you are town. Your whole post just made my vote for you even less likely to go away.
I don't even know what would convince me that you are a townie. Honestly, you really haven't been defending yourself very well, and I think that it will take a miracle to convince a lot of people that you are not scum. And you really don't have long. Lynching you is the best option IMO. You were acting super scummy, and even tried to make connections between people where there weren't any. (For example, PP101 and I). You were not defending yourself at all and were instead going after other people to try and put attention on them instead of yourself. I feel like you were role fishing a while back. You would completely ignore any valid points made against you. You were taking parts of posts out of context to make others look scummy and make you look good. That is why I voted for you. I did not bandwagon. I feel that you are the best option for a lynch. And, if you flip town, I will have no regrets. You have been playing scummy and your only real defense was a role name reveal. That doesn't tell us much about your role, and it could have easily have been faked.
Anyone might be townie. Anyone might be a wolf. If we are going by your logic, we will never get anywhere. Townies get lynched. It happens. It is not a bad idea to lynch someone who is acting like scum. It is a bad idea to lynch someone who leans town. I'm not saying JP does, heck, I'm not saying that anyone does.
Vegitalian, you still seem like you really need to be lynched. I don't believe that you are Gareth, and until you can prove otherwise, I will be voting for you. Mostly because of the reasons I listed before.
Vote: vegitalian
Anyone might be townie. Anyone might be a wolf. If we are going by your logic, we will never get anywhere. Townies get lynched. It happens. It is not a bad idea to lynch someone who is acting like scum. It is a bad idea to lynch someone who leans town. I'm not saying JP does, heck, I'm not saying that anyone does.
I don't even know what would convince me that you are a townie. Honestly, you really haven't been defending yourself very well, and I think that it will take a miracle to convince a lot of people that you are not scum. And you really don't have long. Lynching you is the best option IMO. You were acting super scummy, and even tried to make connections between people where there weren't any. (For example, PP101 and I). You were not defending yourself at all and were instead going after other people to try and put attention on them instead of yourself. I feel like you were role fishing a while back. You would completelyignore any valid points made against you. You were taking parts of posts out of context to make others look scummy and make you look good. That is why I voted for you. I did not bandwagon. I feel that you are the best option for a lynch. And, if you flip town, I will have no regrets. You have been playing scummy and your only real defense was a role name reveal. That doesn't tell us much about your role, and it could have easily have been faked.
If evidence comes to light that makes me think that he is not a wolf, I will unvote for him. Simple as that.
I don't even know what would convince me that you [Vegitalian] are a townie.
in addition to the stuff SS7 pointed out. Turns out Prohawk beat me to it. That line tells me he's made up his mind and nothing could move him from his position. When playing this game, being willing to change your position based on new evidence is critical.I don't even know what would convince me that you are a townie.
I don't even know what would convince me that you are a townie. Honestly, you really haven't been defending yourself very well, and I think that it will take a miracle to convince a lot of people that you are not scum. And you really don't have long. Lynching you is the best option IMO. You were acting super scummy, and even tried to make connections between people where there weren't any. (For example, PP101 and I). You were not defending yourself at all and were instead going after other people to try and put attention on them instead of yourself. I feel like you were role fishing a while back. You would completely ignore any valid points made against you. You were taking parts of posts out of context to make others look scummy and make you look good. That is why I voted for you. I did not bandwagon. I feel that you are the best option for a lynch. And, if you flip town, I will have no regrets. You have been playing scummy and your only real defense was a role name reveal. That doesn't tell us much about your role, and it could have easily have been faked.
Now, SS7, you need to also look at what I was responding to with the first one. He was saying that he doesn't want to lynch someone who might be town. Saying that anyone could be town or wolf and that townies get lynched sometimes is true. It isn't scummy. You follow your reads, vote for who you think is scum, and sometimes they turn out to be town. That is all I was saying. How does that translate to scum? Do you think that "sometimes townies get lynched"="lets lynch all the townies"? I just don't understand.
Vegitalian has been a bit better recently, yes, but that doesn't excuse what he did before. Creatng links between players where there were none. Not defending himself against any attacks, but, rather, attacking other peole instead of defending himself, ect. Could that all be newbtown? Yes. But I have seen nothing to convince me that it is. I am almost positive that he is scum, so that is why I am persuing this lynch. If evidence comes to light that makes me think that he is not a wolf, I will unvote for him. Simple as that.
And that brings me to my next point. When I said that I will have no regrets if he is lynched and flips town, I meant that I will have no regrets. Why? Because he is acting like scum, whether or not he is town. Should I regret lynching someone who is acting scummy if they flip town? No. Why? Because there was nothing that convinced me that they were town so I went for it. I voted for them. If you lynch me for acting scummy and I flip town, are you going to regret it? No. Because you thought I was scum and voted for me.
And just because people also say they are from his dimension does not in any way make vegitalian non wolf. There could easily be townies and wolves from each dimension.
You realized that you already dismissed this possibility in a previous statement right?
I don't even know sounds like there isn't anything that would convince you to me... am I wrong? What made you change your mind?
Wow, really? I said that I don't know what would convince me that he is townie, not that nothing could convince me that he is townie. There is a difference.
@everyone else, I'm going to bed now. I'll post more in the morning.
Wow, really? I said that I don't know what would convince me that he is townie, not that nothing could convince me that he is townie. There is a difference.
@everyone else, I'm going to bed now. I'll post more in the morning.