Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!

[scorri]

scorri thinks that maybe it would be good if JQ restated her questions for waynegg since scorri just went through JQ's last 10 or so posts in the game and couldn't see any specific questions that needed to be answered. scorri is a little uneasy with JQ's general attitude towards waynegg right now, scorri is getting a victimizing type vibe "Oh look at how waynegg keeps ignoring posts, waynegg must be scum, jq is being ignored" etc.

 

[PikaJewel]

OH CRAP! IT'S MEWTWO! EVERYONE, LYNCH PIKAJEWEL NOW BEFORE THIS BECOMES A CRISIS. SCREW VABLAKES NOW AND JOIN ME ON THIS ONE. I PROMISE THIS WILL SAVE US!

MeWtwo Is not GoinG to be a Little threat but a big one and we should lYnch This oUtlaw beFore the outlaws get rid of all the enForcers.

Vote: PikaJewel

Here's what I think the Win Cons are.

Town- Get rid of ALL Anti-Town. Standard

Werewolves- Prob the one in XV

Enforcers- All Outlaws are dead and control 50% of the Village.

Outlaws- All Enforcers are dead and control 50% of the Village.

Pokemon- Only Pokemon are alive.

Indies- Whatever the heck they want.

Of couRse, I'm not saying this is trUe But it could BE an accuRate guess. Well, I hope.

Wow............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................HOW FAR OFF FROM THE RIGHT ANSWER CAN SOMEBODY GET???????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

scorri wonders why PikaJewel has MEW in capital letters in PikaJewel's post when Mew has already flipped. scorri wonders what message PikaJewel is trying to pass here.

Get out your thinking cap and look at stuff.

So I'm not going to say that it is impossible that you are correct, but why do you suddenly believe Pikajewel to be Mewtwo? I fail to see any logic in this assumption. If Pikajewel really were Mewtwo, why would she drop a hint that would at the very least cause players to start noticing her more?

And could you please explain your 'secret' message to everyone?

1. I AM NOT MEWTWO~!!!!
2.This code your going to have to figure out for yourselves but I usure you that I'm not trying to hurt the town.

scorri still wants Pikajewel to explain why Pikajewel has Mew in her post as well. scorri is confused as to what is going on here to be honest.

I'm trying to explain something about myself that nobody seems to have figured out yet..................................................

Come on, the only thing you can really get out of that is WIGGLYTUFF and RUBBER. I'm not sure where you get "W CALL AT" from. If you look at all the capital letters it's "HIWCTGALLATS" and so on. Don't try to pick and choose which letters make sense for your argument.

Either way, Pikajewel and PM need to explain these messages.

Mine has something to do with my role.... I have no idea about PM.

PMysterious has always been a very eccentric poster. Hard to read, and even harder to understand…I decided to go back and look at his posts. What I found was…interesting….


When did we first realize there were other factions? It was at the end of Day 1 with the Modkilling of TheBank http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2365620&postcount=790

Before that moment, only those with prior knowledge of third-parties would have known about them…look at these posts, all by PMysterious and ALL on Day 1 BEFORE we knew about the enforcers and outlaws…

You say this and I want to thank you.................................................but you are presently in a grave.

Anyways I'm sure of it now.... PM I don't think you are a wolf.. but I don't think that I want you alive either,...... I also think I may have made a really really really really big mistake by putting up that code....... but oh well if I die it won't be something that haunts me for the rest of my life.

Vote: PMestiryous

Or however you spell it.










He seems obsessed with "factions." He is basing his whole case on factions....all BEFORE we knew for sure there were factions....

After Day 1 ends, you would expect him to use this as evidence to push his case….well we get this:




And that’s all he does…he drops his “faction” case even though he’s suddenly been given evidence…we do however get this:



-I am confirmed
-I will save the town from certain defeat?
-I asked to be lynched on Day 4?

Your role is confirmed, not your alignment. Now you are role-claiming and trying to tell the town when you lynch you because you will save the town? I don’t like it. It all smells like trying to control the direction of the town.



His role bugs me a lot and this also leads to my next point. The town wouldn’t need a role like that because they have the advantage of numbers. The whole idea of a town is they have numbers…a role where being put in a losing situation helps you and give you a bigger voting power…well that would make perfect sense for an independent who is on his own, or a very small group of people who do not have the numbers to control the town significantly....more to that…why would he reveal this information? It would seem that it would be better to lie then to say “oh BTW I can totally become unlynchable and I can super-vote for people if you the town, abuse my power!” That just screams target me….

All this information just keeps dragging me to the conclusion that PMysterious is NOT a townsperson. He seems to have had prior information about factions, and knowing his role’s effect, it would be much more helpful for a small group or individual, then a large group of townies. I beleive that PMysterious is a member of one of the third-party factions and thus not a member of this town, and this makes him a threat.

Vote: PMysterious

....................Well, that was unexpected. I'm starting to agree that PM is a threat after reading his posts, and now the death of AT in the middle of the game day.

Right now I've got something to do that I hoped I wouldn't have too.

WAYNEGG!
IF YOU HAVE EYES, THEN RESPOND TO MY QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED IN THE OTHER GAME DAYS!


I'm going to be ticked if you don't answer to that.



1: Well, to be crude, people from different factions are trying to kill each other so that they can win. But it is usually more logical.
2: Yeah, we have a lot of abbreviations. It took me a while to understand everybody, but it isn't all that hard. Try using this post from the last game as a reference, and ask about others.
3: That is when the Moderator of the game kills someone for breaking the rules.
4: Yeah, unless you happen to be in a faction that allows chat with certain other players.
5: You get on and post when you can, and try to be active. If you can't play, then you are replaced(but as we have no replacements at the moment, you'd be modkilled)
6: No, you get to choose whether or not you vote. But it is advised for you to vote, with your own logic.
7: That depends. You are 'good' too other townies, but you are considered 'bad' for the wolves.

Hope that helps some. Try going to this thread if you have other questions.

Now, back to PM.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that was not a glitch, and that he is Wigglytuff, with a possible Pokemon Wins or Enforcer Wins condition. Whatever faction he is, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mewtwo is a threat, and that is why he is freaking out about PikaJewel.

He is not behaving pro-town, that's for sure. He is behaving like scum, and though I am still ticked off that waynegg is refusing to acknowledge my existence, he earns my vote.

 

[kirbyking]

Sorry guys I have been busy, but I'll try to get a solid post up by Friday or Saturday. Since I haven't cast my vote yet I think I will do so right now.

VOTE: Pmysterious

Reason: He revealed a role that is way too good to be wolf, but isn't near as helpful for the town when you reveal it, so that would leave it down to some other faction in which we need to get rid of. Plus that whole code think seemed like a cheap excuse to put pressure on a newer player and get pressure off yourself.

So I have never seen someone die during the day like that. I think we can only assume what happened to PM, but SMP might be on to something.

 

[PMysterious]

I SWEAR, I did not kill AT. I was actually listening to his points (which I am defending against in this post) and then I find out he's dead. To be honest, I would NEVER kill AT even if I had no choice but to. Plus, I'm NOT one of these stupid third-parties. I was right about the multiple factions, but that doesn't mean I knew about them until I saw them. It was my opinion and no one can change that opinion. Now that we KNOW about these factions, it would be POINTLESS to bring them back up again.

 

[scorri]

PM: scorri still wants you to explain what was going on with Wigglytuff rubber. scorri does not believe that you managed to randomly spell that out.

 

[jellyfisher]

1. I AM NOT MEWTWO~!!!!
2.This code your going to have to figure out for yourselves but I usure you that I'm not trying to hurt the town.

...

That post was directed at PM, not at you.

 

[Glaceon]

PM: scorri still wants you to explain what was going on with Wigglytuff rubber. scorri does not believe that you managed to randomly spell that out.

Vote: PMYsterious

I have been wondering this too.

You and waynegg seem to be consistently avoiding the real questions.

 

[StrongRhino]

I SWEAR, I did not kill AT

And you should be believed because…?

 

[Sandslash7]

PM ~ If you are a townie what do you have to fear from Mewtwo?
EVERYTHING! Nuff said.

Not good 'nuff.

1. How does this game work? (basics? stategy? anything?) I did see the or post number 1 but however I would like a players point of view See Part Six
2. I don't understand this is because everyone so far is using like 2 letters. (OP?, WC?, etc,) OP is Original Post (The 1st post in the thread), WC is Win Condition. See the "OP" for a list of abbreviations, or the link I provided above.
3. What is ModKill? I am noticing that alot Modkill is where the "mod" "kills" players for various actions. King Piplup and Innocent_Shine are example of players who were Modkilled. Their deaths were not caused by any player in the game, but by the mod for out-of-game actions.
4. I am guessing I can not talk to anyone in Private Messaging... about this It would be best to not talk by PM about game-related topics.
5. If we have Limited activity (for me its work) what happens Be as active as you can be. Pikamaster will let you know if you are not active enough.
6. Do I have to Vote everyday? No.
7. if my private message said "Town Wins" am I good or bad? If this is the case, Good. However this is a game, and there is no "good" or "evil" inherent in the positions. Only "Town (uninformed majority) and "Scum (informed minority)."

EVERYTHING! Nuff said.

Why? According to your supposed WCs, Mewtwo is only a primary threat to the Enforcers.

Also, since when the heck do I lie about stuff? Also, I noticed something about you. When you played prior XVI, you were afraid of the wolves. Now that AT has lynched you in that game, you started becoming afraid of the Town. Yet, you lie about it and say you are afraid of the Wolves as much as us. [Citation Needed]

@DP: We should fear everything about Mewtwo because everything about it in this game is bad because of the Outlaws. Also, I'm not trying to be lynched or trying to hurt the Town. I'm trying the best I can to answer all of the questions people are asking me. I jut end up skipping them at times.

Also, for those that ask how my computer can glitch up the post I'm trying to make, it just can. I know it doesn't make sense, but its doing its own thing.

Bolding your lie. This is not pro-town play. Also you are missing citations for your "claims." Though I know you won't find any, because you are wrong.

As I said earlier. If you are going to claim, claim. Don't "secretly" say something and then back down from taking responsibility.

PMysterious has always been a very eccentric poster. Hard to read, and even harder to understand…I decided to go back and look at his posts. What I found was…interesting….

When did we first realize there were other factions? It was at the end of Day 1 with the Modkilling of TheBank http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2365620&postcount=790

Before that moment, only those with prior knowledge of third-parties would have known about them…look at these posts, all by PMysterious and ALL on Day 1 BEFORE we knew about the enforcers and outlaws.

He seems obsessed with "factions." He is basing his whole case on factions....all BEFORE we knew for sure there were factions.

His role bugs me a lot and this also leads to my next point. The town wouldn’t need a role like that because they have the advantage of numbers. The whole idea of a town is they have numbers…a role where being put in a losing situation helps you and give you a bigger voting power…well that would make perfect sense for an independent who is on his own, or a very small group of people who do not have the numbers to control the town significantly....more to that…why would he reveal this information? It would seem that it would be better to lie then to say “oh BTW I can totally become unlynchable and I can super-vote for people if you the town, abuse my power!” That just screams target me….

All this information just keeps dragging me to the conclusion that PMysterious is NOT a townsperson. He seems to have had prior information about factions, and knowing his role’s effect, it would be much more helpful for a small group or individual, then a large group of townies. I beleive that PMysterious is a member of one of the third-party factions and thus not a member of this town, and this makes him a threat.

I like this post.

I'm going to push further.


1) PM knew there were other factions before they were revealed.
2) This post is a push towards labeling Enforcers as Wolves.
3) This post is a push towards lynching Mewtwo, a known Outlaw.
4) This post is a push towards setting Mewtwo (Outlaw) up as the Primary Antagonist.
5) This post is a push to get rid of Outlaws before Enforcers. PM also claims Wigglytuff Rubber.



Putting all that information together.

1) PM had seeming a priori knowledge of additional factions aside from wolves.
2) PM vilifies Enforcers.
3) PM vilifies Outlaws.
4) PM claims Wigglytuff.
5) PM's role is not really a town-aligned role, as it is more helpful for a smaller faction to possess.

Thus I have deduced that PM is a Pokemon-Aligned Pokemon (most likely Wigglytuff unless he decides to actually tell the truth).

I have also deduced that he did NOT kill AT.


What we know and can infer:

PM's role that plays with votes is confirmed.
The Enforcers and Outlaws both are "3rd Party" indies. So far there has only been 1 NK each Night. Occam's Razor dictates that the highest probability solution is that those were Wolf NKs. Mew, the lead Enforcer, died. Mew had no Killing role. An Enforcer RC flip shows a DAY kill role ("Lynch: X"). No Outlaw Kill role has flipped. A balanced game would have equal and opposite factions containing roles with similar power levels. A possible Outlaw Day Kill role might be an X-shot(1 probably, 2 max) Day Vig. Antagonist-Paired roles are logical.

Thus, I feel it is logical that an Outlaw killed AT using his Day-kill Ability to draw suspicion to PM. Absol had just posted a long post voting for PM, and is then immediately offed. It is perfect WIFOM for a scum to select Absol as a target for a Kill.



Thus, my scenario fits the evidence.



However. Who should be lynched? We have no clue who would have killed AT. That person would take very high precedence, but there is no way to find them, so I move that we find the next best target.



PM, in this post, you state that the "Pokemon" win condition is "only Pokemon are alive at the end of the game." As you are a "Pokemon Aligned" Pokemon, you would know what your own win condition is. Since not all of the town is Pokemon, your alignment is anti-town.


VOTE: PMYSTERIOUS


You may not have killed AT, but you are a member of a faction that is anti-town, you are lying and are being secretive.

 

[jpulice]

Guys,

I've been absolutely buried at work. I got home early to spend time with the family and then back to work. I apologize about the IRL stuff, but I've been skimming to try to keep up. I will officially say I'm just lost at this point.

Prohawk and Waynegg why are you two arguing? If you both think you have a lead discuss and move forward. Why the debate (what am i missing)

xxumbreonxx did you really vote PM because he used umm (or at least this is your reasoning).

Has anyone done a # of factions to player to wincon analysis that I've just missed?
X-X wolves
X-X outlaws
X-X enforcers
X-X pokemon
X-X what ever I've missed
Y-Y town

Also looking back at the first page is pokemon even listed now as a faction or are they indy....

I mention this to get back to prohawk / waynegg. (since I agree with portions of each of your agruements) If you look at the final vote count I would assume there are some wolves off and some on vablakes. Furhtermore I would think there was potentially a non voting wolf. What is the likely hood we have someone on Waynegg's wagon and on vablakes. (is there someone being opportunistic for waynegg then a we need a lynch so I'll go after vablakes)?


However, AT may be onto something with his find on the factions and PMysterious. Also looking at AT role card did he unintentionally slip on revealing info on PM? He was pretty set on the PM vote with solid logic. I see no reason not to continue with this path.

VoteMysterious

 

[pokemonplayer101]

Wow............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................HOW FAR OFF FROM THE RIGHT ANSWER CAN SOMEBODY GET???????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Get out your thinking cap and look at stuff.



1. I AM NOT MEWTWO~!!!!
2.This code your going to have to figure out for yourselves but I usure you that I'm not trying to hurt the town.



I'm trying to explain something about myself that nobody seems to have figured out yet..................................................



Mine has something to do with my role.... I have no idea about PM.

Wow............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................HOW FAR OFF FROM THE RIGHT ANSWER CAN SOMEBODY GET???????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Get out your thinking cap and look at stuff.



1. I AM NOT MEWTWO~!!!!
2.This code your going to have to figure out for yourselves but I usure you that I'm not trying to hurt the town.



I'm trying to explain something about myself that nobody seems to have figured out yet..................................................



Mine has something to do with my role.... I have no idea about PM.

Mine has something to do with my role.... I have no idea about PM.

Mine has something to do with my role.... I have no idea about PM.

Mine has something to do with my role.... I have no idea about PM.

So she put M E W in caps in her post.

PM puts WIGGLYTUFF W CALL AT RUBBER (plus some random stuff) in his post.

One of them killed AT.

And I do not think it was PM (a ultra-voter plus an autokill whenever he wants? I don't think so).

VOTE: PikaJewel

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I'm excited to hear from Jason and PokemonRocks777. Hopefully they will be able to contribute more as the day progresses.

I also hope to hear from Vegitalian next game day, now that AbsolTrainer has flipped town.

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Anyway, there's a lot of weird stuff going on right now. I'm kinda trippin' out on all of these crazy new roles/Win Conditions, etc.

This truly is a "Dimensional Clash".

 

[Pikamaster]

VOTE COUNT:
38 Remaining
20 to lynch


PMysterious- 12 (Benson, Waynegg, Pokemonplayer101, Thunderjolt, xxumbreonxx, StrongRhino, Scorri, SMP88, Kirbyking, Glaceon, Sandslash7, Jpulice)

Waynegg- 2 (JewelQuest, Human Destroyer)

Pikajewel- 7 (PMysterious)

Glaceon- 1 (Eclipse)

Eclipse- 1 (xxumbreonxx)

Pokemonrocks777- 1 (Prohawk)

G landers- 1 (Dragonclyne725)

 

[Benson]

Firstly, I'm content with my initial speculation of PM; as the day has progressed he has shown more an more anti-town behaviour, whether it is because he is indy or faction aligned the point is nothing he has done has been in favour of the town. Though his button pushing has riled a few people and some good discussion has come about it has only buried him further.

Secondly, if anything PM has said all game day is to be believed, food for thought is that PP101 is a double voter, so balance would dictate he is not aligned with PM.

VOTE COUNT:
38 Remaining
20 to lynch


PMysterious- 12 (Benson, Waynegg, Pokemonplayer101, Thunderjolt, xxumbreonxx, StrongRhino, Scorri, SMP88, Kirbyking, Glaceon, Sandslash7, Jpulice)

Waynegg- 2 (JewelQuest, Human Destroyer)

Pikajewel- 8 (PMysterious, Pokemonplayer101)

Glaceon- 1 (Eclipse)

Eclipse- 1 (xxumbreonxx)

Pokemonrocks777- 1 (Prohawk)

G landers- 1 (Dragonclyne725)

 

[DragonClyne725]

So she put M E W in caps in her post.

PM puts WIGGLYTUFF W CALL AT RUBBER (plus some random stuff) in his post.

One of them killed AT.

I doubt PM killed AT too, as having a passive voting role as well as a Day killing role would not be balanced at all. But where are you getting that it must have been PM or PJ? Is it just the fact that PikaJewel claims to have posted "MEW" as part of her role? I'm not sure how that would kill AT.

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Random Though:

What happened to AT reminds me of the Vampire group from Ultimate Werewolf. For those who are not familiar, Vampires work as a team, choosing a NK victim each Night aside from the Wolves, but their victim would die in the middle of the Day. With 7 days in this Day, and AT dying on the 4th day, it's very similar. Seeing that there have been no previous mid-Day deaths, I find it highly unlikely that there is an actual group that holds this power, but it is possible that someone had a 1-time use role. Either way, I'm not sure a "trigger word" was the cause, but possibly a PM was sent to the Mod during the Night or during this Day.

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I also hope to hear from Vegitalian next game day, now that AbsolTrainer has flipped town.

What makes you think Vegetalian will be unsilenced next game Day? I don't see how AT's death connects to the silenced people...

 

[scorri]

scorri reminds benson that PM has claimed to have the vote ability of 1+(x/2) --> 1+(12/2)=7 + 1 vote is equal to 8. scorri does not believe that anyone else currently voting has a multiple vote ability.

 

[Pikamaster]

Vote count has been fixed to correct a mistake.

 

[Benson]

@Scorri
I went back and double checked shortly after posting it and realised my mistake, as well as the fact the vote count was apparently wrong as now fixed by the mod.

 

[waynegg]

WAYNEGG!
IF YOU HAVE EYES, THEN RESPOND TO MY QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED IN THE OTHER GAME DAYS!

Really? OMG! Stop skimming and READ...

Your other questions I have previously answered. Go back and read them. I'm not going to repeatedly answer the same question for every TLDR player in the game (goes for you too PikaJewel) only to have my words twisted or mischaracterized because I phrased things a bit differently the second time around.

This game doesn't revolve around you. You don't get to demand answers to questions that have already been answered when other players asked the exact same question. If you want to know the answers, go back and read them. That's how this game is played.

Oh yeah, and you forgot to actually vote.

 

[PMysterious]

Not good 'nuff.






Why? According to your supposed WCs, Mewtwo is only a primary threat to the Enforcers.





Bolding your lie. This is not pro-town play. Also you are missing citations for your "claims." Though I know you won't find any, because you are wrong.

As I said earlier. If you are going to claim, claim. Don't "secretly" say something and then back down from taking responsibility.





I like this post.

I'm going to push further.


1) PM knew there were other factions before they were revealed.
2) This post is a push towards labeling Enforcers as Wolves. I did not check the first post before I made that.
3) This post is a push towards lynching Mewtwo, a known Outlaw. I rather get rid of the leader than have the two factions go to war.
4) This post is a push towards setting Mewtwo (Outlaw) up as the Primary Antagonist. Well, the Enforcers need our help. I'm wanting to help the Enforcers and I promise these guys will do us no harm.
5) This post is a push to get rid of Outlaws before Enforcers. PM also claims Wigglytuff Rubber. The Wigglytuff Rubber is explained later on. But let's think about it. The Outlaws have only lost 1 member by nk and the Enforcers lost 3 due to modkills. I feel really bad for the Enforcers losing a lot of their guys and even though I'm Town, I feel like it gets more interesting to give the Enforcers a second chance to win.



Putting all that information together.

1) PM had seeming a priori knowledge of additional factions aside from wolves.
2) PM vilifies Enforcers.
3) PM vilifies Outlaws.
4) PM claims Wigglytuff.
5) PM's role is not really a town-aligned role, as it is more helpful for a smaller faction to possess.

Thus I have deduced that PM is a Pokemon-Aligned Pokemon (most likely Wigglytuff unless he decides to actually tell the truth).

I have also deduced that he did NOT kill AT.


What we know and can infer:

PM's role that plays with votes is confirmed.
The Enforcers and Outlaws both are "3rd Party" indies. So far there has only been 1 NK each Night. Occam's Razor dictates that the highest probability solution is that those were Wolf NKs. Mew, the lead Enforcer, died. Mew had no Killing role. An Enforcer RC flip shows a DAY kill role ("Lynch: X"). No Outlaw Kill role has flipped. A balanced game would have equal and opposite factions containing roles with similar power levels. A possible Outlaw Day Kill role might be an X-shot(1 probably, 2 max) Day Vig. Antagonist-Paired roles are logical.

Thus, I feel it is logical that an Outlaw killed AT using his Day-kill Ability to draw suspicion to PM. Absol had just posted a long post voting for PM, and is then immediately offed. It is perfect WIFOM for a scum to select Absol as a target for a Kill.



Thus, my scenario fits the evidence.



However. Who should be lynched? We have no clue who would have killed AT. That person would take very high precedence, but there is no way to find them, so I move that we find the next best target.



PM, in this post, you state that the "Pokemon" win condition is "only Pokemon are alive at the end of the game." As you are a "Pokemon Aligned" Pokemon, you would know what your own win condition is. Since not all of the town is Pokemon, your alignment is anti-town.

You may not have killed AT, but you are a member of a faction that is anti-town, you are lying and are being secretive.

I TOLD you, I knew nothing about the other two factions. Look, you're making a mistake. I ALWAYS get misinterpreted by everybody! That's my problem and why everyone of you think I suck!

STOP THE VOTES AND LISTEN TO ME!

I NEVER KNEW ABOUT EXTRA FACTIONS AND I GUESSED ON THEM UNTIL THE DOUBLE MODKILL HAPPENED. ALSO, I WILL ADMIT THAT I LIED ABOUT THE MESSAGE BEING A COMPUTER GLITCH. AS IRONIC AS IT SOUNDS, MY ROLE IS WIGGLYTUFF AND MY ABILITY IS CALLED RUBBER! THERE. ARE ALL OF YOU HAPPY NOW? I REALLY JUST HATE EVERYONE MISINTERPRETS ME! EVERYONE THINKS I SUCK, AND I GET BLAMED FOR THE LOSS I NEVER CAUSED! I ADMITTED TO MYSELF I SUCK, BUT NOW, I'M NOT THE WORST PLAYER ON THE GYM, WWXVI PROVED THAT, AND LOOKING BACK AT IT, I HAD POTENTIAL! BUT THANKS TO ALL OF YOU KNOW IT ALL KNOW NOTHINGS, I CAN'T EVEN GIVE OUT MY TRUE STRENGTHS! I AM THE NEXT SS7, I AM THE PLAYER THAT YOU NEED! ALL I NEED IS TO BE GUIDED INTO THE LIGHT! IT TAKES TIME FOR ONE TO BE GOOD IN WW, HOWEVER, ITS ONLY ONE IN A MILLION THAT SHINE OUT LIKE THE REST! I'M ONE IN THOSE A MILLION! SS7 IS ONE OF THOSE IN A MILLION! IKRIT IS ONE OF THOSE IN A MILLION! IF YOU THINK ABOUT LYNCHING ME, YOU'LL BE SORRY. BECAUSE IF YOU DO LYNCH ME TODAY, I'M QUITTING AND NEVER COMING BACK TO GYM WW EVER AGAIN! AFTERWARDS, THE TOWN CAN JUST KEEP ON LOSING GAMES AND JUST LEARN THAT I NEVER CAUSED THESE LOSSES! I NEVER CAUSED THE LOSS IN XVII, AND I NEVER CAUSED THE WOLF LOSS IN XVI! I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THOSE LOSSES! ITS ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT SAY I'M SCUM FOR NO REASON AND THE ONES THAT JUST DITCH ME IN THE END THAT CAUSED THOSE LOSSES! I'M NOT HOLDING BACK ANYMORE! I'M GOING TO REACH MY TRUE POTENTIAL IN THIS GAME NO MATTER IF YOU LIKE ME OR NOT! ITS EITHER YOU LOSE THE GAME AND A PLAYER OR YOU LOSE THE LIGHT THAT'S BLINDING YOU FROM THE TRUTH! THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW MY POTENTIAL, AT KNOWS MY POTENTIAL, IKRIT KNOWS MY POTENTIAL, AND I DARE SAY IT, KP KNOWS MY POTENTIAL! THE ONLY REASON WHY I PLAY IS FOR FUN, BUT THAT GETS RUINED WHEN YOU ARE LEFT IN THE SHADOWS OF OTHERS AND CONSIDERED SCUMMY FOR THE THINGS YOU DIDN'T DO! I MEAN, YOU NEVER LYNCH THE SCUMMIER GUY AS ALL OF YOU ARE TOO BLINDED BY THE LIGHT TO SEE Y TRUE POTENTIAL! LET ME SHOW YOU ALL WHAT I CAN DO! THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO TURN ME AROUND! WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE? WILL YOU LYNCH ME, LOSE THE GAME, AND MAKE ME QUIT? OR, WILL YOU RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION AND SEE WHAT I CAN DO? COME ON PEOPLE, SHOW THAT YOU'RE ALL SMART ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY FIND A WOLF AND NOT STUPID ENOUGH TO LYNCH SOMEONE OVER THE MOST STUPID STUFF! I'VE BEEN IN THE SHADOWS PUT DOWN BY MANY! KP PUT ME DOWN IN XVI, CABD PUT ME DOWN IN XVII, AND ALL OF YOU ARE PUTTING ME DOWN IN THIS GAME! I WAS ALSO KNOWN AS ONE OF THE WORST PLAYERS ON THE SITE FOR SO MANY STUPID REASONS! WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE ALL OF THIS UNFAIR TREATMENT? IF I DESERVED IT, I WOULD HAVE QUIT A LONG TIME AGO. I WOULD'VE ACTUALLY QUIT AFTER XVI WAS OVER HAD I KNOWN THAT I WAS GONNA BE TREATED LIKE CRAP! DON'T YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE ALL BECOME? IT TRANSFORMED ME INTO A HELPLESS VICTIM OF THE ROPE! I KNOW I AM A GOOD PLAYER, BUT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THIS CRAP EVERY GAME BECAUSE OF MANY THINGS! I GET MISINTERPRETED BY OTHERS AND THEY SAY I'M SCUM! I'M SORRY IF THAT WAS THE CASE, ITS NOT MY FAULT I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH A CONDITION THAT MAKES ME THINK DIFFERENTLY OF OTHERS, ITS NOT MY FAULT THAT EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEY'RE SMARTED THAN EVERYONE ELSE, AND ITS NOT MY FAULT THAT I GET LYNCHED FOR NO GOOD REASON! I'VE HAD ENOUGH AND I'M GIVING YOU ALL ONE LAST CHANCE TO KEEP ME! TOWN, WILL YOU LOSE ME AND THE GAME OR WILL YOU LOST THE LIGHT THAT BLINDS YOU? IT'S YOUR CALL WHETHER I STAY OR GO!

Please, give me a second chance. I'm going through too much of this crap you guys throw at me. I got laughed at when I got lynched on Day 4 in WWXVI, I got blamed for the loss in XVII, and one thing they have in common is that one player put me down. Ironically, none of the players here can admit the truth as the ones that could say that I was a good player are all dead or replaced out (not including SS7 who I have a gut feeling will die on Night 3). If I quit, all of you will be ashamed you thought about making me go this far. I've went through enough and this is my 2nd to last chance to prove my point.

 

[SMP88]

Holy. Wall. Of. Text.

I'm not going to quote that post, but what is this line about?

"I feel like it gets more interesting to give the Enforcers a second chance to win."

How does that make any sense? If you're town you don't want any other group to win.

You want to know why people are voting for you? You're acting scummy. Really scummy. Lying about this secret message, whatever that "giving a second chance to the Enforcers" thing is, going after SS7 for no real reason, claiming you're the best player and that the town needs you to win among other things. Every single one of those things are scummy. I don't think anyone's vote for you right now is unwarranted.