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DQed from regionals and BANNED two weeks later (I was set-up)

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I will go out on a limb and say its probably because there is no longer an investigation going on. Its public record and anyone can request. Especially when you know the proper method of obtaining these types of information.

Again, for all to see, I work in an intelligence unit. I do have knowledge and connections.
 
r3skyline said:
Questioning if what I am saying is true. Hmm, well I cant prove by a recording of the conversation but I can tell you and any other person what I am saying is true.

What I do for a living I do with pride. I try to live by true values and moral code.

This is the best I can provide.

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You are asking for what you will not extend to Mees.
I think it highly likely that he was told what he said and that this Gordon Cook omitted the part about how he could go to extraordinary methods to get around that privacy restriction.
As Abudoggie notes, I've experienced incomplete disclosure many, many times in my life. It is certainly as likely, if not more, as the possibility of Mees reporting all those other facts accurately (as you've found) but lying about that one.
 
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this is pretty shady.... for those who do not know aikido terms of prearranged forms of practice where the basic pattern is for the receiver of the technique (uke) to initiate an attack against the person who applies the techniquee.

it does seem more like people attacking him for past events. The judges should of said hey cut that out with a warning or be DQ'd if it happens anymore. Keeping an eye on him is very understandable but to allow it to happen for multiple rounds just hurts the people he plays against. i mean now i know if i dislike someone i'll write a letter to the judges letting them know this stuff and maybe a similar suite will follow allowing me to get him dq'd and wont't have to face the people he beat
 
I want to say maybe both. It was omitted, and Mees was told beforehand as well on what to do but completely forgot due to emotions and clouding. It is understandable to forget stuff like that when you just lost /had stolen a $3k laptop and have fury within.
 
Wouldn't it make the most sense for somebody like Pokepop to call the hotel varify whats being said and than have Mees request the video if it all checks out?
 
Let me try to recap what transpired today.

So r3skyline called the hotel and managed to get in touch with this Chris G. employee, who "was involved with the incident and remembered quite a bit about it all." Chris said, "what was told to the individual was that he would be able to obtain a copy of the film footage, however he would need to request it through room divisions and have it go through the proper channels. Yes he was able to obtain a copy but we do not hold copies longer than 3 months."

So that is what Chris said today, based on a recollection of events from August 12.

We also have a screenshot of an email from Gordon Cook, the Room Division Manager. The email includes the hotel security report which details the events of Monday, August 12, and a preface of "we are not able to release any video coverage to you due to Canadian privacy laws." What is going unmentioned so far is the fact this email was sent on September 5.

This email is nearly a month after the incident, and in response to a request from Mees presumably asking for the video footage. The hotel cannot honor that request, so they send him "some jpeg stills of the suspected thieves".

It's easy to see why Mees would take this Room Services Manager at his word on September 5, trumping anything he might have been told on August 12.


P.S. As soon as the legitimacy of the email was brought up, I politely emailed Mr. Cook asking if he would confirm its authenticity. I received this reply from him: "Thank you for your inquiry. I regret to inform you that due to the fact that this matter has since been handed over to the Vancouver Police Department and therefore has an active Police file, Pan Pacific Vancouver is not in a position to give out any details on this case. We trust you will respect and understand our position on this." So in the end, I don't believe any new usable information has been uncovered.


Update: just saw Jaeger's post. r3skyline and I probably bothered the hotel enough on this. Only Mees ought to do any further follow-up.

 
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Let me try to recap what transpired today.

So r3skyline called the hotel and managed to get in touch with this Chris G. employee, who "was involved with the incident and remembered quite a bit about it all." Chris said, "what was told to the individual was that he would be able to obtain a copy of the film footage, however he would need to request it through room divisions and have it go through the proper channels. Yes he was able to obtain a copy but we do not hold copies longer than 3 months."

So that is what Chris said today, based on a recollection of events from August 12.

We also have a screenshot of an email from Gordon Cook, the Room Division Manager. The email includes the hotel security report which details the events of Monday, August 12, and a preface of "we are not able to release any video coverage to you due to Canadian privacy laws." What is going unmentioned so far is the fact this email was sent on September 5.

This email is nearly a month after the incident, and in response to a request from Mees presumably asking for the video footage. The hotel cannot honor that request, so they send him "some jpeg stills of the suspected thieves".

It's easy to see why Mees would take this Room Services Manager at his word on September 5, trumping anything he might have been told on August 12.


P.S. As soon as the legitimacy of the email was brought up, I politely emailed Mr. Cook asking if he would confirm its authenticity. I received this reply from him: "Thank you for your inquiry. I regret to inform you that due to the fact that this matter has since been handed over to the Vancouver Police Department and therefore has an active Police file, Pan Pacific Vancouver is not in a position to give out any details on this case. We trust you will respect and understand our position on this." So in the end, I don't believe any new usable information has been uncovered.
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Ok. Have someone who you deem credible. Have them ask for Chris G. I attempted to spell his name. Pronunciation should be the same anyway.

Whoever calls, attempt to ask about my conversation, Leo Z. Im not lying.
 
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r3skyline said:
Ok. Have someone who you deem credible. Have them ask for Chris G. I attempted to spell his name. Pronunciation should be the same anyway.

Whoever calls, attempt to ask about my conversation, Leo Z. Im not lying.
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I'm not saying you are! What I'm saying is it's possible Chris G. doesn't have any new knowledge of the incident since the events of August 12, whereas Gordon Cook stated the hotel's stance on September 5.
 
Well, I cannot say anything about that really.

All I personally know is, I asked several times, reworded if footage could be requested. Verified methods of which only two seem possible.

Through the police department where only Mees can initiate and through a public records request through the hotel where it would go through a chain since the VPD became involved.

Let me throw this out there though. Video DID exist. The hotel no longer has a copy, but has a record of that day as is procedure for the security of the hotel. Maybe VPD has a copy of the video if it is still ongoing. If so, Mees can request it from them and obtain it much more easily.
 
r3skyline said:
The email says one thing. What was told to me was different, and what was told to me was also told to Mees as well.
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Got it. I understand there is a discrepancy in what you were told compared the the Mees/Cook version. It seems like you confirmed everything else yourself, why would Mees goof with the email? (and does it even matter now that you got someone else at the hotel to corroborate the key details?)

Here is another option: It would also seem a plausible situation that when Mees was at the hotel, he may have been told he could get access to the video. And then later he gets the email from Cook that says something different (which wouldn't surprise me at all). Since the email was a later communication from someone in apparent authority at the hotel, maybe Mees assumed that its information superseded what he was previously told at the hotel? I'm not sure I care about the minor communication details now you've got the big picture corroborated. But am I missing something there?
 
What chris told me is what Gordon told Mees. Maybe he told Mees that a copy was not obtainable for the reason of image? They were just involved with a major deal and theft would put them in a bad spotlight.

Mees said this Aug 15

"You guys will never see the footage because canadian privacy laws are super strict. I know what I saw though and my macbook is definitely gone (I went back to the room to check it out). I'm really dissapointed."

He appears to be under the impression then that he couldn't get the video. So either he was not told, or forgot, or withheld that info. Or I was lied to about being able to obtaina copy. although everything else did match up.


I see where some are trying to get at finally.

Theft occurred. Mees told the truth. His laptop was stolen and Gino was verified to have been at the location it happened.

827 PST Edit : hey all, I have an 8 mile ruck in the morning I need to be up at 0400 for so ill be taking my leave now. Night all!

Hopefully someone who is an outsider brought to light something. I know my views changed. I wont point fingers, but I have a very strong opinion now.
 
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Jaeger said:
Wouldn't it make the most sense for somebody like Pokepop to call the hotel varify whats being said and than have Mees request the video if it all checks out?
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The incident at the hotel had nothing to do with the DQ at Philly Regionals.
I have no interest in getting involved in that considering I would hardly be viewed by Gino as a neutral party.
 
r3skyline said:
827 PST Edit : hey all, I have an 8 mile ruck in the morning I need to be up at 0400 for so ill be taking my leave now. Night all!

Hopefully someone who is an outsider brought to light something. I know my views changed. I wont point fingers, but I have a very strong opinion now.
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Thanks for your investigative work. As you are uninvolved with anyone in the incident, I think many will appreciate your efforts. 8-Mile ruck? How much you humping 45lb or more? I bet you'll be back and fed before most of us slobs wake up. Keep those feet dry! I'm going to bow out from the thread Skyline since your effort seems to have accomplished as much research as anyone can. People will conclude whatever they will conclude.
 
Just curious has anyone else considered that this might just be a giant publicity grab by Gino? All we know for certain is that he was DQ'd from Regionals, but can anyone else confirme that he has actually been banned from the game?
 
r3skyline said:
Ok. I dont want to do this but I just got off the phone with pan pacific I spoke with a Chris G who was involved with the incident and remembered quite a bit about it all.

Mees, you lied. I believe that image of the email was fabricated. Chris G had told me you COULD obtain a copy of the video. That all you had to do was follow the proper procedure since the VPD was involved. It is open to you and was ONLY made more difficult becauae of the privacy law protecting GINO.

However, they do NOT have a copy anymore as security only holds on to those for 3 months time. They do however still have all the still images they had shown you.

Why lie to everyone and state it was not allowed?

Oh and to everyone including you Gino. Yes, there was a video where you and another were identified as rummaging through belongings.

I have no relation to either party other than seeing Mees post from another site and Gino from facebook.
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He tried to make me fess up for a crime I didn't commit. He became desperate and used false evidence in attempt to make me come clean if I did take his macbook. Police and Detectives use this tactic to get a confession as a piece of evidence. He basically said 'gino your on tape taking my macbook, I have a picture and video of you going through my bag trying to get me to confess'. If I said "ok I took it" his reply would be "I dont have any proof you took it but now I have your confession!" Therefore that's all the evidence he needs.

I denied his claims of going through his luggage and taking his macbook. Wheres the video or picture of me going through his suitcase? Wheres the picture of me taking your macbook? The only picture he posted was me holding a bag from the pokemon store leaving the hotel. You mean to tell me he keeps his macbook in a bag from the pokemon store? GET REAL! He can't post a picture of the incident or me taking his macbook because their isn't any like I HAVE SAID 1000 TIMES! He made it up and even in his police report he lies. He claimed he invited me to his party the night before his macbook was robbed. I was never invited to his party and Jon Bristow went, I didn't! In the report Gordon Cook identified Jon Bristow in a photo and that isn't even jon bristow in the photo! If you look at the screenshots of me and alleged bristow its at the front entrance. Bristow never went through that entrance. He went through another entrance where his photo wasn't rightfully matched. Gordon Cook also lied and claimed I was rummaging through his suitcase! He put "they were seen removing items from the suitcase and exited the hotel."

That's a lie and impossible because I never rummaged through Mees's or anyone else's belongings. I don't steal and don't need to. Where is the proof!? You claim to have a picture and video. POST IT! When I was in Anaheim WORLDS 2006 I had my backpack stolen at the pokemon hotel and ended up getting my stuff back as well as 3 to 4 other peoples stuff back. The two thieves I FOUND got arrested and banned so i'm all for banning theive's of this game! I am the reason they got banned. I am the reason those thieves got found! It took me from 10pm to 6am to find their whereabouts and call security and police to raid their room! Christian Ortiz from NY helped me the whole night find the suspects! Do you want me to get the police report for this incident? I mean I was robbed with evidence and I got my stuff back yet years later im being accused of robbing someone with no evidence. I learn from other peoples mistakes and would never take something that isn't mine! I was in the police explorers from 15-18 years old and I know a lot about laws and procedures.


4. LEGAL TACTICS: Police investigators can lie to you about evidence they say they have to
get you to talk to them and to get you to confess.

Investigators may lie and say to you they found an object at the scene of a crime that has your
fingerprints. They can get you to admit involvement in an incident by claiming that witnesses
saw you, or that they have you on video tape, or possibly that your license plate number was
recorded. They can say people heard you make incriminating statements, even if it is not true.
Investigators may appeal to clearing your conscience, religious beliefs, and suggest how a lie
detector test can be used if you do not tell the truth. The police may not have enough evidence to
charge you with a crime unless you admit it. As long as the police are not too outrageous in their
tactics to get you to waive your rights it is permitted. Be sure that if the courts give police
permission to lie, it will be used to the extreme. Without help from a lawyer, it is hard to tell
what, if anything, the police say is true, and you may not know if what you say is incriminating.


They can get you to admit involvement in an incident by claiming that witnesses
saw you, or that they have you on video tape, or possibly that your license plate number was
recorded. They can say people heard you make incriminating statements, even if it is not true.

^ This is literally everything that has happened to me! Connect the dots people! All these anonymous witnesses Mees and Jason hide behind there's a reason no one has come forward! All the players claiming I cheat, steal, bully, or lie made incriminating statements that weren't true about me to try and further me admitting something I didn't do! Have you read some of the ridiculous allegations against me. I taught a cheater to cheat. That doesn't even make sense! You claim to have me on tape and you use a PRIVACY LAW to hide behind so you don't have to show me a video! That's a cover up because your too pathetic to admit you was wrong and have issued me no apology. As far as i'm concerned Jason and Mees don't deserve any respect for all that they have put me through for this one BIG LIE they have created in order to get me to try and talk. It is unjustified for TPCi to let them spread rumors about me and not give them any penalties!

If you had a video of me committing a crime it would be posted online. You wouldn't hide like the coward you are! Just admit you was wrong! I don't deserve this anymore!

HERE'S A VIDEO OF THEIVE'S that were accused of something similar BUT with proof!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088MP8TGrtw

Look how easy it is to post hotel footage of thieves committing a crime!

My reputation has been slandered. Jason, Mees, and the pokegym is 100% libel for defamation of my character. This is not fair to me. I do not deserve this prejudice treatment aimed towards me because a couple of clowns want to spread rumors and have a bunch of fools believe them. I don't deserve judges to make up scenarios of something I didn't do and DQ me for it! I don't deserve to be sending letters back and fourth to TPCi fighting for my right as a player to be playing this game.


I will not stop until Justice is Served.
 
Gino. This is before my ruck.

1) The privacy law is real. Its to protect YOU.
2) Mees information might have changed regarding the release of the video. I have not seen it myself, but through speaking with an individual who was involved, there was a video that the images were captured from.
3) You keep demanding video. Things dont work like that in the real world.

4) The best advice you can receive at this point since you are concerned about your image. Stop posting on forums about this mess, stop joking about it on facebook, and finally

Laywer up.

Without a lawyer, you're not getting any justice you may or may not deserve.

Abudoggie - just standard 35lbs+ with full kit. Not too bad. Just hate doing it in the cold washington mornings.haha
 
r3skyline said:
1) The privacy law is real. Its to protect YOU.

Laywer up.

Without a lawyer, you're not getting any justice you may or may not deserve.
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Did you not see the video I posted? It was at a hotel, in the lobby area, and a macbook was stolen. The Privacy Law like I said is a made up excuse for Mees not showing the video. There is no video so he hides behind that excuse. A lawyer wont do anything I already tried. Pokegym's Protecting by certain internet ACTs. So I can't sue them for slandering my name without sufficient evidence and allowing them to have thousands of people read it. Regardless of them being libel.
 
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