King Piplup
Active Member
With the new deck list penalties and players' seeming inability to properly write them, I suspect this may start to come up more often:
Players A and B are opponents in a Top 8 match. Both players receive game losses pertaining to deck list errors.
I'm fairly sure only one game ends up being played based on this compendium ruling:
It's not a double-loss in a single game, but I'd argue the principle of two losses=opponent wins still stands.
The big thing: deciding who goes first in the "3rd" game. Seemingly, the only sensible thing to do is to flip a coin—but I'm not sure how to justify this. The best I can think of: the game losses are applied before the match "starts," thus, the coin isn't flipped until the beginning of the one true "game" anyway. However, I know some areas that make players go through the formality of setting up for a game before the loss is given, which my theory doesn't fit. Moreover, when a single loss is given, the offending player gets the choice to start Game 1 as if they'd lost in a conventional way.
Is there a better way to do this that I'm missing? A better way to justify the coin flip for the single game? General thoughts?
Players A and B are opponents in a Top 8 match. Both players receive game losses pertaining to deck list errors.
I'm fairly sure only one game ends up being played based on this compendium ruling:
Q. What happens if a Double Game Loss occurs in Game 1, 2 or 3 in match play swiss? In match play single elimination?
A. The principle is that two game losses is a match loss. A double game loss in Game 1 starts the next game, but the winner of Game 2 wins the match as one player already has two losses in a best of three format. A double loss in Game 2 means the person who won Game 1 is the winner. A double game loss in Game 3 means a double match loss in swiss, but starts a sudden death game in single elimination rounds. (May 8, 2014 TPCi Rules Team)
It's not a double-loss in a single game, but I'd argue the principle of two losses=opponent wins still stands.
The big thing: deciding who goes first in the "3rd" game. Seemingly, the only sensible thing to do is to flip a coin—but I'm not sure how to justify this. The best I can think of: the game losses are applied before the match "starts," thus, the coin isn't flipped until the beginning of the one true "game" anyway. However, I know some areas that make players go through the formality of setting up for a game before the loss is given, which my theory doesn't fit. Moreover, when a single loss is given, the offending player gets the choice to start Game 1 as if they'd lost in a conventional way.
Is there a better way to do this that I'm missing? A better way to justify the coin flip for the single game? General thoughts?