CMsvW
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Darn you injuries DARN YOU ;-;
2 regionals rumor
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Darn you injuries DARN YOU ;-;
I hope we get official word soon, because I admit I'm kinda confused right now.
Will we get any extra Regionals at all (I'm getting the vibe the answer is no to that one)? Will regular VGC regionals go away in favor of the VGC being at TCG Regionals as well, or are these smaller events than those, or at least separate? Will top cut for TCG be the second day, if that day is supposed to be VGC focused, or no?
Too many questions, but I suppose that's what happens when info is leaked early. It'd be in TPCi's best interest to have an official announcement soon to get rid of misinformation.
Will we get any extra Regionals at all (I'm getting the vibe the answer is no to that one)? Will regular VGC regionals go away in favor of the VGC being at TCG Regionals as well, or are these smaller events than those, or at least separate? Will top cut for TCG be the second day, if that day is supposed to be VGC focused, or no?
Too many questions, but I suppose that's what happens when info is leaked early. It'd be in TPCi's best interest to have an official announcement soon to get rid of misinformation.
King Piplup
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Alright, apparently great lakes is in the fall. And, my mom apparently saw somewhere on some site that 2 regionals are being added. I don't know where though. (where they will be or where she saw that)
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Prof Clay
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I would wait for Official announcements before speculation further guys
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SLOW DECK
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Assuming something is to it, it is Great News in many ways.
In many years of playing, I felt that I didn't even need to think about pokemon from Worlds to December.
Unconfirmed rumors are great, any P.R. person will tell you that, it create's anticipation.
Unconfirmed or not, I have a date to "BLOCK OFF" on November 12-13, this is so that I schedule other activities during that weekend.
Anyone who has educated guesses on Nationals dates, please provide so that I can block off my calendar for that too.
In many years of playing, I felt that I didn't even need to think about pokemon from Worlds to December.
Unconfirmed rumors are great, any P.R. person will tell you that, it create's anticipation.
Unconfirmed or not, I have a date to "BLOCK OFF" on November 12-13, this is so that I schedule other activities during that weekend.
Anyone who has educated guesses on Nationals dates, please provide so that I can block off my calendar for that too.
So, when I first heard about this I was under the impression that each area was getting two regionals (ie the pacific northwest would get a regionals in OR, as usual, and then an extra in Seattle). When I was under that impression I was all for it. I mean, more tournaments, more fun, more prizes, more trips, more points, etc.
However, now that I fully understand the situation and realize that Regionals are simply being split up between November and April, I can't help but think this is a bad idea. There are certainly going to be people who can travel to two different regionals, and although that doesn't present all that much of a problem in most cases, if there are players that can both travel to two different regionals and get an unusual number of Cities (Florida, the northwest, etc.) it could present a real ratings problem. I also just don't really see how this is all that much of a benefit, as it only provides more travel costs, time off work, etc. to most players.
Also, maybe I'm not fully understanding the situation as I'm not a big fan of competitive video game play, but don't VGC regionals get thousands of competitors in some areas? Unless there are going to be some major overhauls to both VGC and TCG regionals, I can't imagine that combining with the VGC is going to cause anything but a headache. For instance, in my area both events are staffed by more or less the same people, and it already seems to be quite the workload for everyone.
On the bright side, if it's arranged correctly, only good can come from players being able to travel to more tournaments. Also, moving to two days is an incredible step.
However, now that I fully understand the situation and realize that Regionals are simply being split up between November and April, I can't help but think this is a bad idea. There are certainly going to be people who can travel to two different regionals, and although that doesn't present all that much of a problem in most cases, if there are players that can both travel to two different regionals and get an unusual number of Cities (Florida, the northwest, etc.) it could present a real ratings problem. I also just don't really see how this is all that much of a benefit, as it only provides more travel costs, time off work, etc. to most players.
Also, maybe I'm not fully understanding the situation as I'm not a big fan of competitive video game play, but don't VGC regionals get thousands of competitors in some areas? Unless there are going to be some major overhauls to both VGC and TCG regionals, I can't imagine that combining with the VGC is going to cause anything but a headache. For instance, in my area both events are staffed by more or less the same people, and it already seems to be quite the workload for everyone.
On the bright side, if it's arranged correctly, only good can come from players being able to travel to more tournaments. Also, moving to two days is an incredible step.
sdrawkcab
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One of the other rumors going around is that there is some change coming to the Raitings system to discourage skipping events / dropping events.
Ovbiously I don't know anything more specific then that, but that could drastically change your opinion on the matter.
dialga master
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Ugh.
Just one more tournament you have to fly to to make worlds by rating.
Just one more tournament you have to fly to to make worlds by rating.
SLOW DECK
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Ugh.
Just one more tournament you have to fly to to make worlds by rating.
I was hoping they give trips/invites to Regional Winners. It looks less likely (didn't expect them to do that, but hope reigns eternal). I don't like High Number of Ranking Invites. Ranking Invites make people nasty, and playing ranking system games to get their invites. Getting to Worlds is just too over the top for me.
It results in the following:
- Can't Play Fun Decks; Have to Play Low Risk Decks at EVERY EVENT. (Ross (who I respect allot) played Lux Chomp to win his regionals to get into worlds)
- Feel that you can't lose to anyone. (And act like it)
- Have to have ZERO SoTG. (Ask me what snots top rated Juniors and Seniors can be, and Masters too.)
- Can't miss Regionals, States or Cities, then if ratings are high, feel pressure to "skip" Nationals.
When players really think Each and Every Match is the WORLD, you get some ugly situations. I have given up on playing the WORLDS or NOTHING crap a long time ago, because I would rather try to have fun and try to win that day, while risking some crash and burns. Anything to remove this RATING shadow over the players is a good thing for better SoTG and Fun.
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That... pretty much says what I would say, but done much better. But i will bite and ask you what you mean by being snots. (If it's too bad for the public, PM i guess?)
Cyrus
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It...definitely goes both ways. You can be a top-rated player and act snotty, but you can also be a perfectly reasonable top-rated player and get constantly berated for failing to play the game. Or you could be both at once, but the point is that the rating/ranking system as it stands does a great deal of disservice to the game.
I hope to high Heaven that Play! Pokemon changes it for this (and all subsequent) season.
JandPDS
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Ranking invites need to go away
That would solve the problem. Spirit of the Game disappeared once rankings scores meant invites to Worlds.
That was a big mistake. I would like to see worlds invites (not trips) be granted to the T2 players at States, T4 at Regionals and T16 at Nationals in the US. Each county would have their own invite structure.
If no one could loose an invite by playing at Nationals guess what, no one would skip Nationals. OR at least no one would drop Nationals after the first loss. Go back to making points just for fun and not have them mean anything and the mood at tournaments will improve greatly.
Then we can go back to states being held on Saturdays and Sundays over two weekends so players can play in 3 or 4 if they have the ability too (I really miss playing in Washington, Oregon and British Columbia each year.) And Regionals can go back to being held on two different weekends so players can attend two of them as well. One year we flew down to the Bay Area for the NorCal Regionals and had a very fun time.
Instead of Making half of the Regionals in Fall and the rest in Spring, leave all Regionals in the Spring and bring back Gym Challenge if you want a big Fall Tourney. No Worlds invites up for grabs but annother fun BIG event is not a bad thing.
That would solve the problem. Spirit of the Game disappeared once rankings scores meant invites to Worlds.
That was a big mistake. I would like to see worlds invites (not trips) be granted to the T2 players at States, T4 at Regionals and T16 at Nationals in the US. Each county would have their own invite structure.
If no one could loose an invite by playing at Nationals guess what, no one would skip Nationals. OR at least no one would drop Nationals after the first loss. Go back to making points just for fun and not have them mean anything and the mood at tournaments will improve greatly.
Then we can go back to states being held on Saturdays and Sundays over two weekends so players can play in 3 or 4 if they have the ability too (I really miss playing in Washington, Oregon and British Columbia each year.) And Regionals can go back to being held on two different weekends so players can attend two of them as well. One year we flew down to the Bay Area for the NorCal Regionals and had a very fun time.
Instead of Making half of the Regionals in Fall and the rest in Spring, leave all Regionals in the Spring and bring back Gym Challenge if you want a big Fall Tourney. No Worlds invites up for grabs but annother fun BIG event is not a bad thing.
yoyofsho16
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Yes, ranking takes away from SotG, but NO, there is NO way we should just award invites from individual tournaments.
Luck ALWAYS plays a factor. A good player can have a crappy day and go 0-3 drop. It happens. I think awarding people for CONSISTENT play is an important aspect.
Luck ALWAYS plays a factor. A good player can have a crappy day and go 0-3 drop. It happens. I think awarding people for CONSISTENT play is an important aspect.
sdrawkcab
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Team Rocket Elite
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Definitely not in the thousands. Not yet anyways. This year's VGC Regionals typically draw 600-1000 players total across all 3 age divisions.
SLOW DECK
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Snotty is when you or any opponent takes winning the game TOO seriously, thus will rule lawyers, cheats, whine, or just be nasty and rude to opponents, judges, etc. I have caught myself being rude(outwardly bad attitude) twice in the last few years, (at least twice that I remembered, regretted, and apologiesed for).
Several years ago, when my son was 6 years old, he played in his first tournament (Wizards of Coast), His first opponent was such a obnoxious jerk to him, he quit the tournment. He recovered and gave tournaments another chance and has done well with the game. My daughter played in event this year, and she was wronged by being rules bullied by more experience junior. She doesn't think tournaments are fun, because of that incident. She didn't want to go to Nationals with us this year.
Pokemon wonders why they don't get more Juniors and Seniors at local events, it is in part because the hot shot juniors are playing for the rankings, play dominant decks, and then destroys ( and sometimes humiliates) new and novice juniors and their families that they play. Pokemon always get's new young players, but too many quickly get intimidated by the competition. (I have been the parent of a local hot shot, thus I see both sides) Snots, not all of them, not all the time. If rankings weren't a big deal, Juniors and Seniors would be allowed to play fun and crazy decks at times, never had too worry about "what that will do with there rankings." Juniors and Seniors has also been the level where out and out cheating and rules bullying takes place. Anyways, removing rankings is a way to keep people for being too serious about any single match.
:biggrin:Why so serious?
Pokeplayer101
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Through the pokebeach main page it is confirmed that there will be regoinals on Nov. 12-13 in SoCal and Oregon.