Sabett
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In America.......What about Gengar Prime?
Anyways, any pikachu related card is a 10/10 for me :thumb:
Also, Raichu looks awesome on this card.
2010-8-24 UD Raichu 83
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JPN Gallade
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And so for my 400th post, I will review Raichu Prime for today's CotD post.
This Raichu is kind of interesting. Its Poke-power can let you move :lightning: energies from your other Pokemon to Raichu Prime as often as you like during your turn. Thanks to the power, Raichu has a rather fine way to boost itself up. Then, we get to its attack. For three energies, you do 120, but you have to discard all energies attached to Raichu Prime afterwards. Basically, this card needs to take advantage of recovering discarded energies in some way and then getting them back to it to do 120 every turn. Electivire SW would work pretty well with it at this very moment, but we sadly lose this card pretty soon, so Raichu might be losing one of its very few best partners.
100 HP is very good for a stage 1. The fighting weakness hurts, the metal resistance is OK, and the retreat cost is average.
Overall 3.5/10 in modified, 7/10 in limited, and 5/10 in unlimited
In modified, this card is slightly below average. Sure it can hit for some very high damage, and it can have a great way to energize itself, but the main issue with this card is that it will most often need another support Pokemon to help it be as effective as it can for its attacking potential. Electivire SW can be used for now, but as the days slowly wind down to rotation, Raichu won't be that good for long, and eventually next format, it will have a tough time being an attacker. Moreover, Raichu HS is much better than it, and multiple cards can out-speed Raichu Prime. Thus, I doubt Raichu Prime will be that effective here, but I still think it could be a fun attacker.
In limited, this card sees some more potential. Once again, the Poke-power can be a really nice boost for Raichu Prime, and its attack can OHKO most of the time too. Here, however, the problem is discarding the energies. Since it will be tough to recover energies, You might not attack with Raichu most of the time. Yet, cards like Flower Shop Lady can at least help to get the energies back so that you can re-use the attack, so Raichu Prime is definitely not useless here.
In unlimited, this card is actually pretty decent. Now, you have lots of good cards that can turn Raichu into one effective attacker, especially since 120 is a beastly attack to use once again. Sadly though, speed might still be a problem, and there happen to be some good :fighting: Pokemon here too, so it might not be that overly played. Still, Raichu has lots of good partners here, so it can be a good attacker for once.
This Raichu is kind of interesting. Its Poke-power can let you move :lightning: energies from your other Pokemon to Raichu Prime as often as you like during your turn. Thanks to the power, Raichu has a rather fine way to boost itself up. Then, we get to its attack. For three energies, you do 120, but you have to discard all energies attached to Raichu Prime afterwards. Basically, this card needs to take advantage of recovering discarded energies in some way and then getting them back to it to do 120 every turn. Electivire SW would work pretty well with it at this very moment, but we sadly lose this card pretty soon, so Raichu might be losing one of its very few best partners.
100 HP is very good for a stage 1. The fighting weakness hurts, the metal resistance is OK, and the retreat cost is average.
Overall 3.5/10 in modified, 7/10 in limited, and 5/10 in unlimited
In modified, this card is slightly below average. Sure it can hit for some very high damage, and it can have a great way to energize itself, but the main issue with this card is that it will most often need another support Pokemon to help it be as effective as it can for its attacking potential. Electivire SW can be used for now, but as the days slowly wind down to rotation, Raichu won't be that good for long, and eventually next format, it will have a tough time being an attacker. Moreover, Raichu HS is much better than it, and multiple cards can out-speed Raichu Prime. Thus, I doubt Raichu Prime will be that effective here, but I still think it could be a fun attacker.
In limited, this card sees some more potential. Once again, the Poke-power can be a really nice boost for Raichu Prime, and its attack can OHKO most of the time too. Here, however, the problem is discarding the energies. Since it will be tough to recover energies, You might not attack with Raichu most of the time. Yet, cards like Flower Shop Lady can at least help to get the energies back so that you can re-use the attack, so Raichu Prime is definitely not useless here.
In unlimited, this card is actually pretty decent. Now, you have lots of good cards that can turn Raichu into one effective attacker, especially since 120 is a beastly attack to use once again. Sadly though, speed might still be a problem, and there happen to be some good :fighting: Pokemon here too, so it might not be that overly played. Still, Raichu has lots of good partners here, so it can be a good attacker for once.
Voltage Increase has good synergy with its attack, since it allows you to recover immediately and possibly attack multiple times in a row. Mega Thunderbolt KO's most Pokemon in a single shot, but Raichu itself doesn't have a lot of HP. Its free Retreat Cost is helpful if you can't afford overkill. This card could work well with the Magnezone that has Super Connectivity, but otherwise it's hard to make it work well without other stimuli.
Dragonflames1994
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5/10
Just an average, hard-hitting card. Could be decent in some decks though.
Just an average, hard-hitting card. Could be decent in some decks though.
Regis_Neo
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Today's CotD is Raichu Prime from UD, a so-so Prime Pokemon. Statwise, 100 HP is nice for a Stage 1, x2 Weakness to :fighting: is bleh, -20 Resistance to :metal: is...well, better than nothing, and :colorless: to Retreat is cheap. Voltage Increase is a useful enough Poke-Power, letting you move any :lightning: Energy on your Pokemon to Raichu Prime (but sadly not vice versa). Mega Thunderbolt is decent at :lightning::lightning::colorless: for 120, but having to discard all Energy on Raichu really sucks. So yeah...
Modified - 5/10 (It's playable, you can make a deck with it, but it'll be harder to make a consistent one without any Electivire SW available)
Limited - 7/10 (Providing you have plenty of spare :lightning: Energy on your Pokemon, you can fuel Mega Thunderbolt for a few turns and take some prizes. Elsewise, he still makes for a nice final big attack)
Unlimited - 1/10 (No use here, bad attack and meh HP)
Modified - 5/10 (It's playable, you can make a deck with it, but it'll be harder to make a consistent one without any Electivire SW available)
Limited - 7/10 (Providing you have plenty of spare :lightning: Energy on your Pokemon, you can fuel Mega Thunderbolt for a few turns and take some prizes. Elsewise, he still makes for a nice final big attack)
Unlimited - 1/10 (No use here, bad attack and meh HP)
thepliskin5005
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Hey i got this card today in a pack it is good to have one in a racihu deck.
Team_Rocket_Prodigy
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1/10 will never win. 3 nrgy too much and power is useless even with ray 100hp is low just a horrid card 1 hit by promocroak machamp donphan the list goes on lol HOW CAN ANYONE THINK THIS IS GOOD 
Don't be so quick to judge. Has anyone considered the new pachirisu from the japanese lost link set? Once that's in america I think this card will be far more competitive. Pachi's power says "when you play this card to your bench you may attach up to 2 lightning energies to him from your hand." If you have a strong enough energy engine (maybe starting with sableyes and interviewers question).you can play Pachi along with scoop ups and the new hunter supporter and fisherman to pick Pachi back up and keep fishing out energies to move to Raichu. Possible 120 per turn? Maybe staraptor fb X for supporter help. May not end up being super competitive but I plan on giving it a shot. Sounds like a blast to me. Obviously conductive quarry helps as well.
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8/10 pretty good but most primes are like that exept steelix. but raichu -if he holds out long enough which there is a good chance he will.he can 1 hit k.o any common card and very good cards like......
CHARIZARD LVL.X
BLASTOISE (OBVIOUSLY)
GIRATINA HOLO
AND CAN K.O ANY CARD AT ALL WITH 2 HITS OF MEGA THUNDER BOLT
think of that when you want to buy it.
THEN there's a down side
its attack is very costly and with my current deck i can only afford one shot of it.
OVERALL STATISTICS
8/10
costly
hard hitting and long lasting.
i reccomend you buy this
and i reccomend it against the more harder cards to beat but don't go all out against lugia or ho-oh or something
(yes not against lugia because it could kick raichus butt any day)
CHARIZARD LVL.X
BLASTOISE (OBVIOUSLY)
GIRATINA HOLO
AND CAN K.O ANY CARD AT ALL WITH 2 HITS OF MEGA THUNDER BOLT
think of that when you want to buy it.
THEN there's a down side
its attack is very costly and with my current deck i can only afford one shot of it.
OVERALL STATISTICS
8/10
costly
hard hitting and long lasting.
i reccomend you buy this
and i reccomend it against the more harder cards to beat but don't go all out against lugia or ho-oh or something
(yes not against lugia because it could kick raichus butt any day)
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LovingTheAlien
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This card is so bad it's not even funny. It gets OHKOed by:
Donphan(one energy!)
Belted Machamp(also one energy!)
Toxicroak G
LUCARIO GL
Belted Gyarados or Gyarados with flash bite
Belted Garchomp
Belted Luxray + Flash Bite
Belted Blaziken FB
Belted Steelix Prime
Scizor Prime(with modest energy attachment)
BELLOSSOM
Basically everything in the format. Its attack is awful. Easily one of the worst primes ever. Considering this was a very exclusive promo card in Japan, I'm not surprised that it is bad, as it would make it unfair to other players.
3/10
Donphan(one energy!)
Belted Machamp(also one energy!)
Toxicroak G
LUCARIO GL
Belted Gyarados or Gyarados with flash bite
Belted Garchomp
Belted Luxray + Flash Bite
Belted Blaziken FB
Belted Steelix Prime
Scizor Prime(with modest energy attachment)
BELLOSSOM
Basically everything in the format. Its attack is awful. Easily one of the worst primes ever. Considering this was a very exclusive promo card in Japan, I'm not surprised that it is bad, as it would make it unfair to other players.
3/10
Sabett
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That makes no sense, the power is part of the development, that's like saying you don't need to see uxie's power to understand how good it is. I mean how many cards are played because of their powers, if anything you need to see the power before anything else to understand how to asses it.
Bronzong G - terrible
Uxie LA - Terrible
Azelf - Terrible (ok that attack is good, but not by itself)
Mesprit - Terrible
Luxray GL - Terrible
I mean the list goes on and on.
lol espeon is not bad. I think houndoom reserves the seat as the worst
tehmoe
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for one, luxray gl's attacks are still good. its hp is bad, 1 for 30-60 and 2 for 70 is still good in this format. brongzong g's attack is 2 for 40 spread, decent. uxie la is good for 20 bottom/the lvl x can do a nice 60 for 2 colorless or a DCE and also hits for psychic weakness. azelf has an amazing lock attack, mesprit has bad attack. the only one in your list who's attack is terrible. These cards are played mainly because of there powers though dont get me wrong, so you can't really compare them with raichu, because there powers are what make the card. raichus power doesnt make the card, but imo it sure break its playability. they could have given it many different powers/bodies to make it more synergistic to itself/other lightning decks yet they did not.
raichu offers 120, if it gets set up mind you considering it takes 3 energy attachments to do it, thats three turns pikachu/raichu has to survive. to only deal 120 damage straight and then discard what was 3 turns worth of energy. now, your 3 turns behind. not only do you have to get another 3 energy into play/on him you have to do it consistently and quickly. raichu's hp doesn't help along with the fighting weakness, a big type being played in the format. the only way to get energy going fast enough is to run magnezone/electivire fb, but if your running magnezone you shouldn;t be running it just for raichu, magnezone is a better deck all on its own.
this cards stats are so poor, there isnt a power to help make it better, unless its power was equivalent to electivire from sw, even if it was equivalent to electivire fb, it might be decent, which at this point i see as the best way to run this card since vileplume is now around it cant get sprayed.
this card should not be prime worthy, maybe regular/foil rare at best. the best thing they could have done was lower the attack cost to LL/ LC and reduced damavge to 80/100. there isn;'t much unique about raichu either might i add. at least other primes are unique from their counter parts. there are plenty of raichu that already do what this raichu does and at least has another attack that costs like one or two energy so that ur not sitting there doing nothing all day.
all i have to say.
Sabett
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Luxray's attack without the power is terrible 60 for 1 and it does 30 to something on your bench from a basic lv.X? Atrocious. My point is that none of those cards would be remotely playable by just looking at their stats other than their powers. Which they aren't at all. Also, I didn't say Uxie X, I said uxie.
Oh so now we get to talk about Raichu's power? I thought it was so bad we didn't even need to notice it to know it was bad. Cause you see this is what you said:
Or there's an unless? I thought we knew it was worthless already from the attacks and hp, but now there's a power that can possibly redeem it's atrocious stats? Point is you made a such an absurd statement as to say that it couldn't be redeemed by any power because it's stats are so bad
What if the power had been like let you attach energy from the discard pile to Raichu as much as you want? Seems like it's not so bad after that.
Also, I have no idea why you're going on and on about how bad this card is to me. I gave it a 4/10. I don't think it's good either, the point was that you made such a ridiculous claim that made no sense whatsoever.
tehmoe
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Sabett
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Once again, I just said I don't think it's good either, stop telling me it's bad. I KNOW. I AGREE. You just said something stupid about it which made no since at all. Also, what does making reasonable comparison have to do with making Raichu Prime's Power worth while to read now? I mean you said straight up "i dont need to know what the power does to know that the rest of the card is so bad the power cant make up for it." No if, ands, or buts about it, that's what you said. Which was ridiculous, the power could've easily made it into a bench sitter, there are plenty of bench sitters, as apparently you've been defending, that are great attackers, just because they have an offensive attack doesn't mean their powers are destined to be non support powers.
I mean 4 crobat drops 4 poketurns and 2 SSUs also KO raichu, and you don't even have to attack, why not mention that? The fact that the majority of these have to be belted should tell you that you're really reaching. Let's just stick to the fact that it's terrible at setting up, huh?
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