AP US History Help

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  1. Gir

    Gir New Member

    We had a quiz today on the reading and it was about the Modernists and Fundamentalists arguing over Darwinism. In the book, it says:

    "The 'Modernists' parted company with the 'Fundamentalists' and flatly refused to accept the Bible in its entirety as either history or science."

    The next paragraph then went on to say that over time, the Modernists "reconcile[d] Darwinism with Christianity.

    The question asked what the Modernists believed (or something like that - she collected our quizzes so I don't have the question with me). Me and my friend (who is the top kid in the class and in the top ten of our grade) said that the Modernists wanted to get rid of the Bible (or something like that, for reasons stated above).

    But our teacher said that the Modernists believed in bring Darwinism and Christianity together. We showed her the quote from the book above and she said that "entirety" means that they rejected the Bible as a whole, but believed in parts of it. When I looked up entirety, I found definitions "being entire" and "being complete." I still think that I could argue that both answers are correct because we took entirety as being everything about the Bible. Could someone give me their opinion on this? You don't have to really know US History, I just want to know if other people see the quote the way me and my friend are seeing it.
     
  2. Bullet

    Bullet New Member

    This looks more like world history then it does US history.
     
  3. Gir

    Gir New Member

    ...well I'm in US History right now and I took this right out of the book.
     
  4. ixidor89

    ixidor89 New Member

    Modernists are people who tried to reconcile Christianity and Darwinism. Effectively, they don't believe that the Bible is "scientifically" accurate. However, they still see the Bible as the ultimate spiritual authority.

    Fundamentalists, however, saw the Bible as scientifically and spiritually accurate.
     
  5. Gir

    Gir New Member

    What do you think about that statement with entirety in it though?
     
  6. PokePop

    PokePop Administrator

    In this case, "entirety" means the whole thing; hook, line, and sinker.
    In other words, Modernists don't believe that you can take every single word and statement in the Bible as the literal truth ("entirely and literally true").

    They certainly value the Bible for the larger truth that it contains, but if it took 7 days or 7 eons for God to create the World, that doesn't affect the larger message and TRUTH that the Bible is teaching.

    Think of it this way; Jesus used a lot of parables to get His message across.
    No one thinks that there really was a Prodical Son. The story is used to illustrate a point and a message.
    Similarly, Modernists don't think that there really had to be a person named Adam and a person named Eve that God shaped out of clay and placed in some location named The Garden of Eden.
    But that doesn't detract from the message that story is trying to get across.
    Modernists would say that many of the stories from the early chapters were meant to be taken in that sense rather than literally. The Inspired Word of God, not the literal Word of God. Inspired does not mean literal.

    There is not a hard and fast choice between either being a Christian and believing in Creationism and being an Athiest and believing that there is no god (I'll put that in small letters, for the sake of the Athiest ). There is a spectrum of belief that ranges all the way from one end to the other.

    Not believing the "entirety" of something is NOT the same thing as believing nothing of something. See the difference?
    Hope this helps.
     
  7. Gir

    Gir New Member

    This sentence confuses me, but yes, I understand everything else you said. Thank you.
     
  8. PokePop

    PokePop Administrator

    Well, let's look at it this way...

    I don't like the entirety of the Pokemon TCG game.
    Sometimes one deck dominates the format and things get a bit stale.
    Some sets have had too few good cards.
    But overall, I like most of the things about the game.

    So, while I don't like everything (the entirety), that doesn't mean I don't like anything.
     
  9. Gir

    Gir New Member

    Thank you.
     
  10. Bullet

    Bullet New Member

    totally off topic to the question though, my belief which changes from time to time, I think the bible is accurate, but its hard to understand its meaning, where you see statements made in it could mean something totally different then what you understand it to be, it doesnt mention what happened before the bible, which case I think this is where E.T. beings come in.
     

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