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Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by jabberboy, Nov 17, 2007.

  1. jabberboy

    jabberboy New Member

    Hi everybody. Can someone tell me what's Mario's bad matchups are, so I can be aware of what to look out for at cities. Thanks everyone! :smile:
     
  2. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    All psyshic decks. Basicially none right now well T2 Banette and Banettech.
     
  3. Dark Weedle

    Dark Weedle New Member

    marios bad matchups are competant players.
     
  4. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    Banette is the worst right now. Disruption decks, ones with plenty of ER or that cause conditions, can also give it problems.
     
  5. B_B_C

    B_B_C New Member

    Infernape(50-50)

    Banette -(you lose-00)

    Any thing that can bench hit.
     
  6. jabberboy

    jabberboy New Member

    bannete's not auto loss. infernape isn't really played much anymore
     
  7. B_B_C

    B_B_C New Member

    Yes bannete is a auto lose. ok you start with riolu and your opeent has shuppet(cg) the shuppet has a resitance to :fighting:-30. So if you flip/roll heads then you will do 0.

    Infernape is'nt really played any more but infercatty is played.
     
  8. jabberboy

    jabberboy New Member

    lol. then u just bring up machamp and do revenge for 70 and banette cant use its first attack. inferncatty, yes is 50/50 but i still think mario is better than banette because lucario's feint goes through resistance and plus u have pk machamp to get by resistances too. i say its 40/60 banette's favor, but mario still has a chance.
     
  9. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    30/70

    Its gonna do his first attack to kill riolu.You bring up machamp kill it,thats what the first attack is meant for,then they come up and do 110,then you if you play no DRE,then your doing 20,they Ko it and it they keep setting up a Banette and killing stuff,revenge means nothing cause when it KOS the banette,thats what they want you to do. Mario is weak and Banette outspeeds it by two or more turns.

    Ape isnt played anymore,even then Mario could still beat it cause they have Cattys and if you hit the ex and warp some of the other cattys,then its pretty much a done deal,but your spreading damage with Lucario and Champ can clean up. so its around 60/40
     
  10. jabberboy

    jabberboy New Member

    ok let's get this straight. i start out with riolu and do wild kick for nothing with resistance unless i crystal shard. then they banette and knock riolu out. then i bring machamp and revenge for 70. i can one shot banette with lucario lv. x and use stance so the next banette can't damage me. Ya i know it's a bad matchup but it's better than a 30/70. give it at least a 40/60
     
  11. Prime

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    If Riolu could do any damage to Shuppet, it would severely limit Banette's ability, forcing them to have to discard a Banette to do 80. Because Riolu is only +10 weak to psychic. And 40 + 10 < 60HP.
     
  12. Let Fire Fall

    Let Fire Fall New Member

    You're going to always have Rare Candy + Machamp waiting on the bench T2?
     
  13. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    Unless machop/machoke/machamp is in your hand or candy and machamp is in your hand,thats the only way. You wont have that alot,I know from experience you wont. Its a 30/70 matchup regarless of Machamps revenge and Lucario Lv>X can OHKO Banette,so can Banette OHKO Lucario Lv.X. Cessation is in Speed Ban so you know Stance wont mean nothing. Sorry its that bad of a matchup.
     
  14. jabberboy

    jabberboy New Member

    Ok I see where you're coming from now. I forgot about acsencion on cg shuppet. Now that I know that you are probably right with 30/70.
     
  15. Dark Weedle

    Dark Weedle New Member

    mario would have to pick 7 cards out of the deck to make their oppening hand to even make it a 70/30.
    To win the mario player woul dneed to outskill the bannete, not likely b/c who plays mario?? and then still get some lucky topdecks even more than they do against other decks.
     
  16. jabberboy

    jabberboy New Member

    I play mario and if u run 4 candies it makes it easier to get revenge machamp out and knock the banettes out. It really helps the odds so you don't have to topdeck so much
     
  17. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    mostly your play 3-2-2-1 Machamp, 3 Candies is already too much then,but then four,it becomes a dead top deck later in the game when you need something else so 4 is overkill.
     
  18. poke_master2008

    poke_master2008 New Member

    Monarchy is a deck to watch out for if you play Mario
     
  19. SPARTA

    SPARTA New Member

    Starter deck Empoleon (BEWARE!!!!).
     
  20. KingGengar

    KingGengar New Member

    As the resident mayor of Mario-land, I think Banette and Honchkrow are your big worries. Monarchy is interesting, but I would need to see proof. Ditto Crobat, which seems to have flopped. Toxicroak/Blissey could be very bad also if it caught on.

    All these decks have their own problems:
    (1) Banette - self-defeating, and weak to Absol/Honchkrow
    (2) Honchkrow- Electivire is a big threat, as would be Ray EX d (if someone could find an effective way to play it in this format), and Raichu (still good)
    (3) Monarchy- not sure if this can withstand Banette
    (4) Crobat- ditto
    (5) Toxicroak/Blissey- probably the best of the bunch, IMO.
     

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