Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Blissey too strong?

Sandslash7 said:
^So, did you win the Gainesville BR after I left?
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Yeah, I ended up taking it. ER2 would have been an excellent play, but there's not much you can cut in Mario, since it needs so much draw in order to be consistant (you don't have any support like Delcatty to fall back on).

We had some excellent games, man. See you at Fairfax?
 
The_Lorax said:
People
We have dealt with decks and cards that were \"Too Strong\" before
Anyone else rememer LBS? 200 every turn or 100 to anyone every turn?
Has there been a deck before or since that was anything like that? No, and yet the format carried on

Blissey is tough, very tough actually
But it isnt invincible
Gallade isnt the only counter coming to us guys, there are plenty more soon available to us
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Even then, Blisseys which run WP make Gallade's first attack nearly useless, thus meaning Gallade must rely on his second attack, which has a finite OHKO potential (one can only OHKO 2-3 Blisseys with Gallade before being forced to use PP and charm).
 
Phazon Elite said:
Even then, Blisseys which run WP make Gallade\'s first attack nearly useless, thus meaning Gallade must rely on his second attack, which has a finite OHKO potential (one can only OHKO 2-3 Blisseys with Gallade before being forced to use PP and charm).
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If they have holon wp, you use his first attack to nail their weakness
Flip over two prizes for the kill
I can do this 3 times, thats three one hit ko\'s i can inflict on your blissey
And if you fail to drop a holon wp even once, you will regret it as i nail you for 80 unavoidable damage and send you crying back to the bench

Blissey will never be able to realistically one shot a Gallade, where as Gallade can one shot a Blissey with relative ease
That means Gallade will win this stand off
 
Blissey is strong, but overrated. If you don't get that FF, Kingdra Swarm will overrun it. And every Kingdra Swarm deck I have seen has run Lake Boundary for that one hit wonder.

I beat one running FF today, actually. And very few Lati-locks see Mew * coming.
 
The_Lorax said:
If they have holon wp, you use his first attack to nail their weakness
Flip over two prizes for the kill
I can do this 3 times, thats three one hit ko\'s i can inflict on your blissey
And if you fail to drop a holon wp even once, you will regret it as i nail you for 80 unavoidable damage and send you crying back to the bench

Blissey will never be able to realistically one shot a Gallade, where as Gallade can one shot a Blissey with relative ease
That means Gallade will win this stand off
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Remember, Gallade will have to be manually powered up with three individual non-DREs in order to OHKO three Blisseys. He can only OHKO two if powered up via a DRE, unless Pluspowers are used. Also, Drake's Stadium must be absent in order for Gallade to OHKO three Blisseys without external means.

Blissey still has the disadvantage, as Gallade can wreck Blissey regardless of whether Blissey has FF or WP, but it's not a hopeless battle, imo.
 
The_Lorax said:
If they have holon wp, you use his first attack to nail their weakness
Flip over two prizes for the kill
I can do this 3 times, thats three one hit ko\'s i can inflict on your blissey
And if you fail to drop a holon wp even once, you will regret it as i nail you for 80 unavoidable damage and send you crying back to the bench

Blissey will never be able to realistically one shot a Gallade, where as Gallade can one shot a Blissey with relative ease
That means Gallade will win this stand off
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But you are just comparing Blissey Vs. Gallade. When you play Pokémon, each player has a deck, so you need to compare the decks. Blissey is a T2 deck, Gallade is a Stage 2 card, that has not been released yet. Blissey is fast, if Bliss get T2 KO, then what do you do? Candy+Gallade+Scramble? Not only that Blissey plays Cessation in some of it's builds, this would only matter depending on the Gallade deck, since you talk about it, how does Gallade setup?
 
Phazon Elite said:
Remember, Gallade will have to be manually powered up with three individual non-DREs in order to OHKO three Blisseys. He can only OHKO two if powered up via a DRE, unless Pluspowers are used. Also, Drake\'s Stadium must be absent in order for Gallade to OHKO three Blisseys without external means.

Blissey still has the disadvantage, as Gallade can wreck Blissey regardless of whether Blissey has FF or WP, but it\'s not a hopeless battle, imo.
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Manually?
We still have Gardevoir in the format, who also evolves from Kirlia
Granted you take 20 damage, but if you spring it out of no where, your opponent wont be prepared for it

Drakes Stadiums doesnt need to be absent, though it would help
And whats to stop me from dropping a Lake Boundry and just flipping one prize for the kill (even if i have a DRE)?

It isnt a hopeless battle, particularly if the Blissey player is smart
But considering its the best counter I see right now (that I am going to publically mention), its worth trying

Dante63s said:
But you are just comparing Blissey Vs. Gallade. When you play Pokémon, each player has a deck, so you need to compare the decks. Blissey is a T2 deck, Gallade is a Stage 2 card, that has not been released yet. Blissey is fast, if Bliss get T2 KO, then what do you do? Candy+Gallade+Scramble? Not only that Blissey plays Cessation in some of it\'s builds, this would only matter depending on the Gallade deck, since you talk about it, how does Gallade setup?
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Considering I am not going to be playing Gallade? I have no idea
I can guess it would use Garde pk or Garde ex and Altaria ex Flame Ball to setup

And considering i can just go Candy-Gallade-DRE and hit you for essentially 80 damage, I would say Gallade can run just as fast as Blissey, should the situation call for it

If Blissey gets a T2 ko, i simply smile, and send up either another one of my starters to be knocked out, or send out Gallade to kill it

Gallade will be averaging two knock outs per life span, so they are more than welcome to go all aggro on me
In fact, it could actually help me out, since, as you noted, i can then scramble for multiple KOs

Assuming Blissey gains anything close to an upper hand due to sheer speed is a massive mistake
I assure you, most people know how fast and powerful Blissey is, and are quite willing to alter their deck to make Blisseys speed run into a dead end crash
 
The_Lorax said:
Manually?
We still have Gardevoir in the format, who also evolves from Kirlia
Granted you take 20 damage, but if you spring it out of no where, your opponent wont be prepared for it

Drakes Stadiums doesnt need to be absent, though it would help
And whats to stop me from dropping a Lake Boundry and just flipping one prize for the kill (even if i have a DRE)?

It isnt a hopeless battle, particularly if the Blissey player is smart
But considering its the best counter I see right now (that I am going to publically mention), its worth trying
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Ohh...that's right....Galade's second attack takes :psychic: energy, right?

Gallade's just a beast regardless. It has an effective eay to deal with both High-HP and Low-HP pogeys.

I need to go look at the spoilers again. lol

Edit. Wow, Kirlia can search out a Gallade or Ralts triplets or almost anything else. BEASTLY.

Well, at least Blissey can tech fairly easily....
 
SuperWooper said:
Yeah, I ended up taking it. ER2 would have been an excellent play, but there's not much you can cut in Mario, since it needs so much draw in order to be consistant (you don't have any support like Delcatty to fall back on).

We had some excellent games, man. See you at Fairfax?
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Indeed, there would have to be major things removed for the possibility of ER2s. But that might become necessary if Blissey gets bigger than it already is.

Plus, Blissey has Catty ex if you need boosts/FF's back, so there is a bummer on an ER strategy. But if you hold them until the right time, you can get a few quick KO's.

(which is hard normally, because Blissey has 130HP.)



Nah, sorry dude, I'm at college right now, and I only was able to go to that BR 'cause of Fall break.

Maybe Cities or something...



Gallade is looking pretty good though, w/ some Island Boundary or something...
 
SuperWooper said:
I remember you mentioning to me at Lusby Battle Roads that you had completely overlooked Blissey when you viewed the DP2 spoilers.
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Actually thinking back on it, I did see it, and thought it was good, but didn't have any time to realy see what it could do. I hardly had time to build Hurricane, and decks for my Bros. There was no way I could have done all that and made 2 decks for my self! :lol:
 
Tego said:
No, you're at the right one. But all the prizes you draw all game long are with that second attack. The first attack is used maybe once per tournament, not at all once per match. ;)
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could you give us another clue? with those clues i thought of Typhlosion (the UF/Rage one, it was reprinted as a promo) but then I don't think it could get 2 OHKO against Blissey since the body hurts itself and it would need to have buffer piece to try and prevent a KO. So next was Kingdra Ex D, which has to set up to be good. I tried running that as right after we got MT, but it was too slow. Am I on the right track, or way off?
 
The believe the UF Typhlosion that was reprinted as a promo was also rotated out last season.
 
Naki Feralkin said:
Blissey is strong, but overrated. If you don't get that FF, Kingdra Swarm will overrun it. And every Kingdra Swarm deck I have seen has run Lake Boundary for that one hit wonder.

I beat one running FF today, actually. And very few Lati-locks see Mew * coming.
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Yes, you beat my Blissey deck once, and I beat your Kingdra deck twice!
 
Gallade can trump blissy in many ways, dont just look at gallade as a pokemon card look at him as a deck. He has a ton of support from the other 2 gardy's and now 3. Gallade can OHKO 3 blissy's a game consistantly...in a row. Gardevior PK's attack is great against blissy since they love to have so many NRG attached to them. Ralts and Kirlia are not bad pokemon themselves.
 
And what about a Blissey-Gallade-Gardevoir deck? Blissey attacks like always, Gardevoir power up Bliss/kill others Gallade, Gallade cut the HP of your opponent so Blissey can kill it. 5 Energy in play, a lot of Holon WP...

You think too much in kill Blissey with Gallade, but what if Gallade allies with Blissey? :lol:
 
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