Can Kingdra Still Work?

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by Professor Elm, Apr 22, 2008.

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  1. Professor Elm

    Professor Elm Active Member

    Well the title basically says it.
    Why doesn't Kingdra work right now?
    The format is for the most part moderately, making such a deck and setup decks like Magmortar and GG possible.
    Now, Kingdra swarm is a prime example of something that should be good right now but doesn't see play.
    140 HP first off is hard to beat no matter what.
    Being an ex is a big downside but manageable.
    It's body reduces attacks up to 40 damage!
    Decks are primarily low output right now. Gallade is an exception but its huge damage output will only last once.
    It's delta, meaning it has tons of nice support cards.
    Once setup, Psychic Lock won't hurt that much, and the low damage output of Psychic Lock makes a Kingdra ex a difficult 3 or even 4 hit KO, due to its body. On the other hand, Gardy is easy to take out with a Swirl and Energy Link.
    Kingdra's retreat cost is great, and provides for more efficient swarm.
    Magmortar is becoming less popular, so Mag Lv. X and sniping isn't as big of a threat.
    Altaria ex d helps charge up Kingdra fast.
    Holons Castform helps provide insane draw power for easy access to setup without powers if necessary.

    Anyway, just some things to ponder on about this card.
    Don't feel like testing it, but I think its still decent and has a chance in this format,
  2. Shadow Zangoose

    Shadow Zangoose New Member

    Sonic Blade loves you forever.
  3. Professor Elm

    Professor Elm Active Member

    yeah, thats prolly whats holding it back.
    oh well, it seemed good at first
  4. Jason

    Jason New Member

    unown g prevents that.
  5. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    Just watch for those Unknown G starts, the cost me 2 matches at SC States!!!
  6. Black Mamba

    Black Mamba New Member

    I played one in regionals, it actually was a pretty good deck.

    The fact it's an EX just really does it in.
  7. Iinin_Hero

    Iinin_Hero New Member

    3 Luvdisc CG 7 (Pwns Magmortar SW & Anti-Pachirisu)
    1 Stantler SW 113 [.] Search a supporter
    2 Unown-G GE 57
    3 Horsea HP
    2 Seadra ?? ??
    4 Kingdra ex d
    2 Sneasel DP 100
    2 Weavile SW 40
    2 Baltoy GE 60
    2 Claydol GE 15
    = 23

    4 Bebe's Search MT 109
    3 Roseanne's Research SW 125
    3 Steven's Advice PK 83
    2 Team Galactic's Wager MT 115
    2 Copycat DF 73
    3 Rare Candy GE 102
    3 Crystal Beach CG 75
    2 Night Maintenance SW 120
    2 Warp Point DP 116
    = 24

    6 Fight
    3 Basic Darkness
    4 Darkness SW 129
    = 13

    Yeah, I like Kingdra ex d and this works.
  8. spoinkmaster

    spoinkmaster New Member

    It pwns Magmortar because it's water, even if it only does 10 damage?
  9. Black_jirachi

    Black_jirachi New Member

    +30 wakness is cool maybe?
  10. revdjweb

    revdjweb New Member

    kingdra needs unown g for gallade but if they are playing pachirsu it's gonna hurt

    i would run pinsir d over luvdisc
  11. Rai

    Rai <a href="

    It's... Gonna hurt...?
    Unown G wouldn't be discarded
    Kingdra can remove it's weakness
    Kingdras can negate all of the damage from Pachirisu
    Pachirisu's weak to Kingdra

    So... yeah. That's not a bad thing at all.
  12. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Sonic Blade hurts, a lot. You can opt for Unown G but its hard to get out. GG tends to set up faster as you do.

    Also, Magmortar's sniping power sends his <3 to any benched setupper you may have.

    Oh yeah, hi Dusknoir.
  13. ShadowGuard

    ShadowGuard <a href="

    For some reason, people seem to avoid anything named "ex" since Secret Wonders has been released.
    They don't play Flygon ex or Dragonite ex, they don't tech any Rayquaza ex or Absol ex any more.

    Hard to get out? I don't think you'll find any non-basic-energy card that's easier searchable than Unown G.

    Dugtrio or even Cloyster (if you focus on d Pokémon only).
  14. rhodesia123

    rhodesia123 New Member

    anything that does mucho damage 0wnz kingdra. ho-oh comes to mind.
  15. orangematt

    orangematt New Member

    To answer this thread's title: Yes.
  16. furrymuskrat03

    furrymuskrat03 New Member

    I am playing it and it seems to work pretty well. it has beaten magmortar and a flariados(umodified)
  17. skarmory777

    skarmory777 New Member

    use Kingdra with Pidgeot d and Fearow d. It gets going quick. Use Castform or pinsir start.

    BROCKS TWIN New Member

    ghost head!!!
  19. skarmory777

    skarmory777 New Member

    oops forgot that. 2 Unknown G. Watch for the crap starts.
  20. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Hello Dusknoir, mind cleaning up the rubble? Thanks.

    Yeah, lets use Fearow. AND Pidgeot D. AND Dugtrio. AND Unown G. AND a starter. AND 4 Horseas.

    How are you gonna combat the threats?

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