Now, believe it or not, I was in Top 64 at Nationals this year, and I was playing this guy and we were in the 2nd game and very VERY close to time. I was ahead on a game, so had the advantage. After we had 6-piled, I took his deck and thoroughly shuffled it just because the situation was a breeding ground for potentially cheating. He got really mad about it saying that it was a big sign of disrespect to shuffle his deck... ?
Your opponent was probably pissed that you were trying to stall him so close to time...I would be just as pissed if my opponent was up a game and we were close to time and than my opponent decides to sit there and shuffle my deck for a while. Honestly I probably would have called a judge on you to monitor how much time you spent shuffling my deck.
Emphasis added by me.
I am prefacing this by pointing out that I don't know Muddy68, so I am neither insinuating he is untrustworthy nor implying that he is... I don't even know if "he" is a "he". I am just trying to make clear the foundations of the discussion; someone who doubts what Muddy68 is saying needs to preface his or her statement with that.
Jaeger, both players apparently took time to six pile shuffle. Now if Muddy68 started six-pile shuffling and his opponent figured "Might as well use the time myself!" and that is the only reason said opponent decided to six-pile shuffle, what follows isn't applicable.
Otherwise, the player with
the most incentive to do a quick-but-thorough shuffle (the player
down a game) instead
chose to do the slower, six-pile shuffle. Maybe there was some "clumping" or something else that made the person feel insufficient shuffling cost him his first game. Still, I know it seems a bit suspicious to me,
especially after reading your response (e.g. you reminded me how big an issue time is and why taking that long to shuffle is so unlikely).
So don't such circumstances warrant finishing things off with a thorough but timely shuffle? Again, we are kind of lacking some information; if Muddy68 just saw his opponent finish the six-pile shuffle with a few quick riffle shuffles, I can see it being overkill. I also wish Muddy68 had given at least a rough figure for how long he himself shuffled. Like I keep saying, if something he didn't mention was clearly important, it what I say doesn't apply.
Unless Muddy68 is fibbing about why his opponent was mad, the opponent wasn't dwelling on time (or for some reason was lying about it): remember, the opponent
expressly said it was "disrespectful". Unless for some reason the opponent didn't want to accuse Muddy68 of stalling, that doesn't sound like someone mad because his opponent is trying to burn the clock.
tl;dr: There are too many unknowns in the situation. If we take Muddy68 at his word, then responding as Jaeger suggested sounds like just an even bigger waste of time, and that is if you are as polite as possible about it. If I am judging, you take time to six pile shuffle when you're down a game and then you call me over because your opponent is doing a thorough-but-timely-and-legal shuffle afterwards, my eyes are going to be
on you.
Granted that isn't an issue since I haven't had a chance to judge in years. :thumb: