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  1. 1993FLYGON

    1993FLYGON New Member

    Pokemon (13)
    4 Squirtle (EX Headbutt)
    1 Wartortle (Base)
    4 Blastiose (Base)
    3 Cleffa
    1 Suicune (NH)

    Trainers (33)
    4 Computer Search
    4 Item Finder
    4 Professor Oak
    3 Rare Candy
    3 Super Energy Removal
    3 Rocket's Sneak Attack
    2 Lass
    2 Gold Berry
    2 Fisherman
    2 PlusPower
    1 EcoGym
    1 Focus Band
    1 Gust of Wind
    1 Double Gust
    1 Chaos Gym
    1 Town Volunteers

    Energy (12)
    12 Water

    Please help me make it up to date. You know still unlimited, but updated with new at stronger pokemons and trainers.
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2009
  2. Phazon Elite

    Phazon Elite New Member

    Sure thing. : )
    Haven't used that list, but it should do ok. Once you get used to the ins and outs, try to fit Dark Vileplume in there instead of a few things.

    Suicune ex OHKOs everything, while Empoleon kills babies by the pair. Goop Gas Attack should be used RIGHT before you attack. Claydol lets you be a jerk with Lasses, Dawn Stadium heals your guys, as does PKMN Center. Switch/Warp Point/Fluffy help counter Gusts, and Windstorm kills Cessation Crystal and other annoying stuff. Admin is great with Claydol and Lass.

    Yay. If you have questions, ask away! : )
     
  3. skarmory777

    skarmory777 New Member

    ^^yeah...don't do that.

    Raindance is about speed. Blastoise is your guy who speeds through everything. And suicune ex in unlimited? not the best idea. Archie's Walrein is better. More HP, Same attack, Not an EX. All those cards you only have one of? gotta go. Get rid of Item finder, rockets sneak attack, Super energy removal, Focus band, ecogym, pluspower, and chaos gym. Abuse Energy Flow and Pokemon Center. Put another fisherman in and 3 more gust of winds. Instead of 4 oak. maybe play 3 oak 2 elm. You don't want to discard every card you have. Get rid of gold berry, you don't need it with pokemon center. I'm not going to go through and revise the deck with the changes, you're on your own there but use those cards instead of the little one carders you have in there that do nothing.
     
  4. Phazon Elite

    Phazon Elite New Member

    Except Suicune's not a Stage 2 Archiemon, meaning you don't need to use a Rare Candy or an Archie to get a new one out. That saves you room.

    Item Finder gets back those Trainers you discarded with Oak earlier, and you maybe need a maximum of ONE Energy Flow, regardless of whether you use Archie's Walrien or Suicune ex.

    Granted, Dark Vileplume > Lass + Claydol, but still, you need outs in Unlimited. Any deck without Goop Gas Attack and some form of Switch will generally just die to the first one that does.
     
  5. Alazor

    Alazor Active Member

    Pokemon (14)

    3 Squirtle (Fire Red Leaf Green)
    1 Wartortle (Base)
    3 Blastiose (Base)
    2 Cleffa
    1 Magby (Neo Genesis)
    2 Suicune ex (Team Aqua Team Magma)
    1 Oddish (Hidden Legends)
    1 Dark Vileplume (TR)

    Trainers (32)

    4 Computer Search
    4 Item Finder
    3 Professor Oak
    4 Rare Candy
    3 Super Energy Removal
    3 Erika (Gym Heroes)
    2 Lass or Imposter Oak's Revenge (Team Rocket)
    2 Trash Exchange (Gym Heroes)
    2 Dawn Stadium (Majestic Dawn)
    2 Cessation Crystal (Crystal Guardians)
    1 Gust of Wind
    1 Switch (Base)
    1 Pokemon Retriever (Team Rocket Returns)

    Energy (13)
    12 Water
    2 Warp Energy (Power Keepers)

    You can keep the Wartortle if you want, but I think eventually you may not need to keep it in there.
    You could easily replace it with something like Chatot (Majestic Dawn) or maybe Roselia (LM) like Phazon mentioned. Try to play Cessation on Cleffa and set up. When you're done, retreat Cleffa, put up Suicune ex and attack after Raindancing with Blastoise. Use switch if you have to in iorder play down a lot of water energy cards on Suicune ex. If you ever have to use trainers again, use Warp Energy on Suicune ex put up Cleffa and use trainers again.
     
  6. skarmory777

    skarmory777 New Member

    Exactly. Even worse, he's an EX.:eek:
    He's gusted and OHKO and your down two prizes. Then all you have left to attack with is blastoise who is an aweful attacker, especially in unlimited.
     
  7. Sandslash7

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    The point is to play 4 Suicune ex. That way you have a continual swarm of OHKOs.

    You only need ~6 turns to win, and I doubt other decks can pull enough OHKOs to win first.

    If they don't OHKO, you just Scoop Up, and send out a Benched Suicune ex, then re-play the first. Your energy are always safe except from Rockets Admin/Wager (and who playes those in Unl.)
     
  8. Phazon Elite

    Phazon Elite New Member

    With half the people running Trainer Lock, you want to be able to get to your main attacker without having to use a Trainer or Supporter.

    Trust me, a version of this deck with a 2-1-2 Dark Vileplume line and 2 or 3 Suicune exes works wonders.
     
  9. skarmory777

    skarmory777 New Member

    I believe you've played your fair share of unlimited, but I have too. and Primetool decks come out of nowhere and one turn is all it needs to KO a suicune. Trainer lock is cheap If it's not slowking it's vileplume EX. Vile's not as bad as slowking but still annoying. Archie and Walrein has always worked better for me, and done more damage to me than suicune. It's a differeing opinion I guess, the long standing debate of suicune vs. walrein. play what works for you. Experiment. Unlimited is all about doing what works for you.
     
  10. mikeynumber1

    mikeynumber1 New Member

    suicuine ex is soooooo good in this deck. i was tempted to play this deck in the unlimited tourney in minnesota.
     
  11. Phazon Elite

    Phazon Elite New Member

    We'll never agree on this. rofl.

    Oh, well. : )
     
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