Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Could Banette be the end of lucario?

perhaps just play it like T2 kric.

4-4 nette

1st turn, u'll of course start with a shuppet. then mentor( if second..) for the rest and fast ball (this can be done during second turn too). So u will have 2 ban - 1 from ascension and 1 from fast ball. Just discard the ban through TVR/ supporter from DP4 that lets u discard up to 2 cards then draw 3/4.

^ results in T2 80.
 
In BANG you must have 4-4 Banette thats the only way I see it working to its full potential.

4 Shuppet
2 Nidoran(Girl)
1 Bronzor

shuppet 4/5 times will be your starter then. Then you ascension,ghost head and then next banette does 80.Nidoqueen searches out the nettes,bronzo discards them. Also is draw power.

BANG works,but Speed Ban i think is a little more faster.
 
4/6 doesn't equal 4/5. With 6 basics, with 4 of them being Shuppet. When you start with a basic, 60% of it will be with Shuppet. This doesn't include the times when you start with no basics or when you start with more than 1.

I don't see how the deck is supposed to setup a nidoqueen or 2 with just 2 nidoran in the deck. And I definitely don't see how the deck is going to setup a Bronzong with only one Bronzor in the deck.
 
JokerBoi said:
Kricket better against blissy please explain how? Kricket has a 2 retreat, plays DRE, and has the same exact HP.
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Kricketune has an easier time doing 80 than Banette does. Not to mention straight Blissey, and several other versions run Holon WP, which with W, completely stops the first attack.

And the retreat cost is of no matter. The Blisseys can easily do 80 no problem, sometimes even 100 to KO a fresh Banette (beleive me, I've been playing Blissey this whole season, and 100 damage is conceivable in about 3 turns.)

EDIT: This is of coarse assuming there are no Crystal Beaches in play on T3 :D
 
Its easy to setup in BANG. It just setups itself.

Banette does a easier 70 than Kricturne does its 80, Kricturne you need around the same amount of cards:

Krictune+Kricturne+NRG+NRG(or DRE)+Krictune+Krictune+Krictune=80 - 1 Krictune=70
Shuppet+Banette= 70

its similiar.Cause 4/5 of time you get Banette from ascension of shuppet.attach NRG and banette.Kricturne isnt guaranteed but krictune is,either you draw into it or you use the supporter to find.
 
Mew said:
Kricketune has an easier time doing 80 than Banette does. Not to mention straight Blissey, and several other versions run Holon WP, which with W, completely stops the first attack.

And the retreat cost is of no matter. The Blisseys can easily do 80 no problem, sometimes even 100 to KO a fresh Banette (beleive me, I've been playing Blissey this whole season, and 100 damage is conceivable in about 3 turns.)

EDIT: This is of coarse assuming there are no Crystal Beaches in play on T3 :D
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Still with the play of beach and resistance how can blissy be better? My banette always can do 80 t2-t3 and i am currently X-0 against blissy. If kricket was so good against blissy why didn't people play it at BR to win? It is a dead argument.
 
~`Flygon`~ said:
Its easy to setup in BANG. It just setups itself.

Banette does a easier 70 than Kricturne does its 80, Kricturne you need around the same amount of cards:

Krictune+Kricturne+NRG+NRG(or DRE)+Krictune+Krictune+Krictune=80 - 1 Krictune=70
Shuppet+Banette= 70

its similiar.Cause 4/5 of time you get Banette from ascension of shuppet.attach NRG and banette.Kricturne isnt guaranteed but krictune is,either you draw into it or you use the supporter to find.
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Kricketune does indeed need many more cards to do 80 T2 compared to Banette's 70 T2, but Kricketune doesn't literally kill itself on T2 either to do the damage. IMHO, I'd rather play the card that doesn't kill itself to do damage T2 and might take more cards to setup than play the card that sets itself up for the KO on the next turn to do any damage but takes less to setup.
 
Nothing sets itself up. Running 4/2/1 of Shuppet, Nid, and Bronz will not give you a 4/5 chance of starting with Shuppet. You have 4 chances at Shuppet and 3 chances to not get Shuppet.

So, even if you start with Shuppet, how will you setup the deck. The draw is OK but not great, there is no setup guy, and you have to worry about setting up another Shuppet to take advantage of the +40 after the first one dies. Without massive amounts of draw, how will the Nido/Bronz get setup besides out of luck, which obviously won't make this deck a regular Blissey/Lucario beater.
 
PojosamaWannabe said:
Nothing sets itself up. Running 4/2/1 of Shuppet, Nid, and Bronz will not give you a 4/5 chance of starting with Shuppet. You have 4 chances at Shuppet and 3 chances to not get Shuppet.

So, even if you start with Shuppet, how will you setup the deck. The draw is OK but not great, there is no setup guy, and you have to worry about setting up another Shuppet to take advantage of the +40 after the first one dies. Without massive amounts of draw, how will the Nido/Bronz get setup besides out of luck, which obviously won't make this deck a regular Blissey/Lucario beater.
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How does running 4 shuppet and 3 other basics not give you the chance of starting with shuppet. its 4/7 of pulling that or something else. I said 4/5 cause of all the testing Ive done with the deck, only one time I had not started with shuppet.

The deck runs itself,if you know how to run kricturne,then you know how to run this.
 
I disagree. Kricketune isn't trying to set up 3 different lines, in which there is only a 1-1 of and a 2-1-2 of. Kricketune lays down basics and sets up one stage 1, is super consistent because there isn't anything else in the deck, and never has to worry about rare candies or anything to setup.

If you know how to run Kricketune, stick with Kricketune.
 
I think so. BANG isnt that hard to play as you guys are making it to seem. Just get Banette out and do damage. Speed Ban is better than BANG

4-4 Banette
2 Sabelye

your trainer makes the deck work,the ball engine in speed ban is really good and works really well. So just play Speed Ban(Rambolt) and leave BANG if you dont think you can play the deck.
 
JokerBoi said:
Still with the play of beach and resistance how can blissy be better? My banette always can do 80 t2-t3 and i am currently X-0 against blissy. If kricket was so good against blissy why didn't people play it at BR to win? It is a dead argument.
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I currently am playing Banette myself, because I think it's good. I just don't like it's Blissey matchup. That's it.

Btw, Ness played Kricketune at BR's.
 
JokerBoi said:
If kricket was so good against blissy why didn't people play it at BR to win? It is a dead argument.
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I did play T2 tune at a btlrde and did really well with it. The only 2 btls, 1 lost to a Meganium Quagsire deck, which not only does it have a huge advantage over me, but I made an incredably stuppid misplay.
The other one I lost was to my Bros. Lucario deck that I had helped him build, and he basicly donked me after TGWing a perfect starting hand. T2tune CAN actually be a good deck, and I think that right now, it's better than Banette.
 
Bannette is SOOOO Intense. I <3 the card, I wish the EX was still around because it could be one of the top 3 decks in format. Speed Bannette will win soo many cities. I may use it in cities myself but, I am really hooked on "E.2" so I will prolly play that but who knows. Also Bannettes toughest match isn't Blissey IMO, I think if you go 1st, it is 60-40, if you go second, it is 55-45 in favor of Blissey. It is still a very interesting match!!!
 
From just basic testing, 1/1 Bronzong is bait for snipers, especially Lucario/Emp. It probably will be targeted and won't be alive long.

A missed energy drop = game over
 
So, if I wasn't so concerned with how my the telephone pole in front of my house keeps falling over, then I would play Banette for cities.
 
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