Difference between "Pokémon-ex" and "Pokémon EX"?

[z-man]

^This is true, but ex and EX are both in roman characters on the Japanese cards, so the point still stands. I would read ex and EX as the same thing personally, preventing 4 mewtwo ex and 4 mewtwo EX from being played. As SteveP pointed out, this would cause a world of problems if capitals started mattering in deck lists. They really should have either remaned the mechanic or kept it as-is (ex). I understand that they want to call back to the old ex cards (which got me excited), but having issues like this is a pain. I doubt we'll hear anything about this on release, because... let's be honest... unlimited doesn't matter. This is an unlimited-only problem, so it really doesn't matter too much... it won't make or break someone's tournament... so eh.

 

[TheRolesWePlay]

The new type is also hyphenated when referred to, "Pokémon-EX", like the old ones. I note in your post/thread title you've not done this.

So you can't use the hyphen to differentiate between rulings.

Actually the hyphen is actually part of the name this time around.

In any case why does it really matter if you can play 4 Mewtwo-EX and Mewtwo ex. exs aren't in the current format, and even then there's several years between them and they have different templates than the original exs. No one is going to get them confused...unless they're trying to do something...shady.

They're the same, so what? It's a good mechanic and is a welcome addition IMO.

 

[Poke Trainer J]

I think it's a HUGE mistake for Japan to bring back Pokemon ex in this format especially when it's already overun by the 3 Big Dragons (Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem) especially the 3 Musketeer Pokemon to add along with it.

Why is that? Cause it makes Stage 2's almost pointless to play aside from Magnezone which is the best in the format right now. It's like the TCG has become less about evolving and more about playing as many Basics as you can just to beat face for little energy and games usually end way too fast...

I miss MD-On, this format could be so much better... >_>

 

[vaporeon]

I don't think a MD on format would help any at all. BW is just so different from the rest of the game.

 

[baby mario]

I think it's a HUGE mistake for Japan to bring back Pokemon ex in this format especially when it's already overun by the 3 Big Dragons (Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem) especially the 3 Musketeer Pokemon to add along with it.

Why is that? Cause it makes Stage 2's almost pointless to play aside from Magnezone which is the best in the format right now. It's like the TCG has become less about evolving and more about playing as many Basics as you can just to beat face for little energy and games usually end way too fast...

I miss MD-On, this format could be so much better... >_>

MD-on was hardly the shining example of an evolution-friendly format.

 

[rokman]

Here is the sum total difference between Pokemon ex and Pokemon EX.
Pokemon ex has the letters in lower case and it is pronounced "Poke-aa-mon echs".
Pokemon EX has the letters in upper case and it is pronounced "Poke-aa-mon eee echs".

I don't know a single person, judge, player, or collector, that called ex's back in the day, "pokemon echs"....

Sounds like a bunch of bologna.

 

[TheRolesWePlay]

I don't know a single person, judge, player, or collector, that called ex's back in the day, "pokemon echs"....

Sounds like a bunch of bologna.

Fun Fact: According to Pokemon Arceus is pronounced Ar-key-us and not Ar-see-us.

echs was the legit pronunciation. Just because no one pronounced it that way doesn't overrule the fact that that's what it's supposed to be.

 

[rokman]

echs was the legit pronunciation.

Got a source for that?

:thumb:

 

[Maverick Nate]

Got a source for that?

:thumb:

Japan. Japan is the source

 

[KazamBolt]

I'm sorry but basic EX Pokemon that are over powered and over centralize the meta and makes all other cards unplayable are bad for the game.

Except that they give your opponent 2 prizes. You only need to KO 3 Pokemon (which is not that hard with a x2 weakness) to win the game.

It would be nice because as it stands, Zekrom ex and Reshiram ex kill every attacker in the game.

Sure, but if they one shot every attacker, and other Pokemon can easily 2 shot them (which they can), isn't it balanced?

No one ever said Pokemon X, everyone said ex.

Really? You're being narrow minded. I've noticed this in all of your posts in this thread. People varied the way they said it, just like Uxie. Some said YOU-kuh-see (but as 2 syllables), others said Ux-ee, and I even heard Yuk-see.

 

[vaporeon]

Except that they give your opponent 2 prizes. You only need to KO 3 Pokemon (which is not that hard with a x2 weakness) to win the game.



Sure, but if they one shot every attacker, and other Pokemon can easily 2 shot them (which they can), isn't it balanced?



Really? You're being narrow minded. I've noticed this in all of your posts in this thread. People varied the way they said it, just like Uxie. Some said YOU-kuh-see (but as 2 syllables), others said Ux-ee, and I even heard Yuk-see.

Narrow minded how? Here in America, they were marked as 'ex'. In the commercials, they sail 'all new Pokemon 'ex' and the sets were called 'ex' what ever and just about every one, players and collectors said 'ex. They were never called once called 'X' of I have never heard anyone call them that. They were know as Pokemon 'ex'.

 

[TheRolesWePlay]

Narrow minded how? Here in America, they were marked as 'ex'. In the commercials, they sail 'all new Pokemon 'ex' and the sets were called 'ex' what ever and just about every one, players and collectors said 'ex. They were never called once called 'X' of I have never heard anyone call them that. They were know as Pokemon 'ex'.

I refer you to the following my earlier post.

Fun Fact: According to Pokemon Arceus is pronounced Ar-key-us and not Ar-see-us.

echs was the legit pronunciation. Just because no one pronounced it that way doesn't overrule the fact that that's what it's supposed to be.

Plus the sets were labeled EX not ex, so the pronunciation would be the same. Semantics aside, they're listed as a different mechanic so why should it matter, especially when they aren't even in the same format. Just think of it as a nostalgia trip.

 

[Raen]

We're still being a little silly here, guys. Rulings are almost entirely based off of the Japanese rulings. That is, we play the game the way Japan says. To them, ex and EX seem significantly different; to us, they don't, but oh well. We play by their rules.

 

[Otaku]

For the record, I don't recall the "ex" of Pokemon in the past as being pronounced as anything other than saying the names of the letter's "E" and "X" separately, including for the capitalized "EX" in front of set names. Of course I was under the impression that the proper pronunciation is "poh-kay-mon", derived from "Poketto Monsutā", yet "poh-kah-mon" appears to be an acceptable variant, or at least if wrong has appeared repeatedly in official materials.

Could be worse. For those who care, Transformers fans get to deal with referring to Transformers (from the fictional planet Cybertron) as either "Cybertronian" or simply "Cybertrons", which again probably owes to some English-Japanese-English shenanigans (in Japan the Autobots are known as Cybertrons and the planet is something like "Seibertron").

Oh and some rulings!

Q. Can I have 4 "Professor Oak's Research" (Expedition) plus 4 more "Prof. Oak's Research" (FR/LG) in a deck? Their titles are not exactly the same!
A. Sorry, but "Prof." is merely an abbreviation for the word "Professor". They are to be treated as the same card, so you can only have a total of four (not eight) in your deck. (Sep 9, 2004 PUI Rules Team)

Likewise

Q. Do I need to have a current version of "Moomoo Milk" outside my deck if I'm playing the older versions of the card in Modified Format?
A. Technically speaking the "Heart Gold/Soul Silver" version is a different card and it does not do the same thing as the older versions used to (it removes more damage counters now). So you cannot play "Moo-Moo Milk" from "Neo Genesis" nor "Expedition" in the current 2009-2010 Modified Format. (Feb 18, 2010 PUI Rules Team)

I couldn't find the Ho-Oh/Ho-oh ruling, but I am pretty sure they mentioned it as a typo or errata.

More on topic, it is annoying they are repackaging this as an entirely new mechanic. I almost would like to see a few Pokemon-EX be worth 3 Prizes just to make the difference more pronounced.

 

[Cardkeeper]

When we had DP-On, I couldn't wait for MD-On (before this 1st Turn Trainer crap happened), when the rulings changed, I couldn't wait for HGSS-On when Reshiram and Zekrom were dominating BR's, I couldn't wait till BW-On. Now I see this. I want to cry.

 

[vaporeon]

This is why the past ex series was so much better.

 

[mudkipmaster]

No matter what happens, in the end the cards will come out and the players will adapt :thumb:

 

[Otaku]

This is why the past ex series was so much better.

Statement of faith much?

Generally you don't know how good a format is until it is gone... and likewise you often don't know how bad a format really was until its out of your rear view mirror.

 

[vaporeon]

Statement of faith much?

Generally you don't know how good a format is until it is gone... and likewise you often don't know how bad a format really was until its out of your rear view mirror.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Nick15]

Here is the sum total difference between Pokemon ex and Pokemon EX.
Pokemon ex has the letters in lower case and it is pronounced "Poke-aa-mon echs".
Pokemon EX has the letters in upper case and it is pronounced "Poke-aa-mon eee echs".

That's it.
Different name, so you can have 4 Mewtwo ex and 4 Mewtwo EX in the same deck.
Things that affect ex Pokemon don't effect EX Pokemon.

Originality? Fail.
But there it is.

....SERIOUSLY?! [facepalm] And this is like, TPI official??

This is the kind of crap that makes me think that TPI doesn't have two clues about how to run this game properly. And a big reason why I make fake cards; it's my way to design the game how *I* would like to see it made. Maybe I SHOULD get back into making fake cards in protest against these kinds of gimmicks to the game. :-\

---------- Post added 12/14/2011 at 06:57 PM ----------

This is why the past ex series was so much better.

Honestly, I never like the original ex-type much to begin with. I am of the belief that this game could be so much without having to resort to gimmicks like ex=types.