DP-on Monarchy, help appreciated

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  1. Cookie

    Cookie New Member

    Allrighty, I liked the idea of a Queen/King deck when SW came out, but in my tests it rly lacked consistancy and had a lot of bad starts. But after Doll came out with GE to give a lil boost for the deck's drawing engine, I think that this can make a fun deck to play EVEN with the loss of DF Queen's Power and attacks of the DF King. I made this list real quick, all comments and ideas r more than welcome cause im rly not very good at making lists, though i do have a blast doing these :rolleyes:

    Pokeymans:

    3 Nidoran F MT
    2 Nidorina MT
    3 Nidoqueen MT

    3 Nidoran M SW
    2 Nidorino SW
    3 Nidoking SW

    1 Duskull SW
    1 Dusclops DP
    1 Dusknoir DP

    2 Claydol GE
    2 Baltoy GE

    3 Phione MD (e wish)

    = 26, yep its a lot >_< I could reduce the Claydol to 1-1 but im afraid of it getting prized. xP

    Trainers:

    4 Bebe
    3 Roseanne
    4 Candy
    3 POV
    2 Maintenance
    2 Warp Point
    1 TGW

    = 19

    Energyy:

    11 Psychic
    4 Call energy

    = 15

    ==60

    Strategy:

    Pretty simple, start with a Phione, get a Claydol and basics, swarm a few Queens and build a Nidoking to the bench. When u get 2 Queens into play, ur Nidoking attacks its greatly disrupting Poison Rub for free or Pride Attack for only two psychic energies, possible to do 180 dmg at most. It's of course very rare, but if u flip even average amount of heads, you'll usually do at least 90 dmg, most often 120. You can also attack with ur Queens, but usually not cause they're only attack takes 3 energies and without DRE or Scramble its too slow. Make sure you have a backup King when the earlier one gets knocked out. :p

    Ok, please comment and tell me what you think. : )
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2008
  2. DL24

    DL24 New Member

    I understand ur reasoning 4 no dre/ scramble but they r necessary. Ur pokemon line looks good. Maybe some phoebe's stadium or moonlight!!
     
  3. Cookie

    Cookie New Member

    DL24: This is in DP-on format, there's no DRE/Scramble because of that. I didn't think of Moonlight Stadium, I'll test it if I find the space. Thanks anyways.
     
  4. DL24

    DL24 New Member

    OH!! Didn't read the DP-ON. My bad!! But yea, definately try moonlight. I think this deck is wayyy underrated.
     
  5. charchar

    charchar New Member

    dont need 4 phione. maybe 3 but not four. jsut a waste and more junk in the deck. scramble i mean oh....sorry DP-ON...2 multi. pluspowers.lake boudnary.
     
  6. Cookie

    Cookie New Member

    Maybe I missed something, but why should I play Multi? It's a mono psychic deck, and Claydol never attacks. :p Yup, Lake Boundary is good in a heavy G/G metagame to make ohkos out of Gardy/Gallade. Thx for other ideas, I'll test with reduced Phione and make other fixes and then edit the list.
     
  7. TODDakaESTEBAN

    TODDakaESTEBAN New Member

    monarchy seems less good without the steel nidoqueen, but this list makes up for it pretty well
     
  8. Corrosion

    Corrosion New Member

    i dont even know where to start but this deck sucks

    1st of all 7 stage 2s , with 3 stage 1s and 4 rare candy and only 15 total energy is never gonna work

    and 2nd of all phione is not that good

    u need scrambles, u need delta nidoqueen (1), u need dusknoir to get rid of your opponents bench for nidoqueens attack i hope werent expecting only nidoking to attack, latilock and cessation screw this deck up, for this deck to run efficiently u need 1 nidoking with 2 psy e, and 2 MT nidoqueens on the bench and thats a like a T-9 deck. your gonna lose by......lets say turn 3
     
  9. Cookie

    Cookie New Member

    TODDakaESTEBAN: Thx

    Corrosion: I have to say that I rly lol'd at ur post. : DD Not to be mean, but is it actually so hard to see the "DP-on" on the title, there's no CC, no Scramble, no delta Nidoqueen, LatiLock or stuff like that in DP-on, did u know that? And if u can't make a list with two different stage 2's work, either ur list sucks or u cant play. 15 energy is enough (most often for any deck), cause King usually needs only 2 energy to attack with Pride and Poison Rubs for free or 1 energy. And if u want to attack with Queen, it rly isn't hard to tech a 1-0-1 or even 2-1-2 Dusknoir, but Queen is not the main attacker. Btw, Phione with Call nrg IS good, it's actually the thing that helps me setup these many stg2's. Go bash someone else's deck OR even better, make some comments that possibly make sense or are in the right format.
     
  10. ChubbyChilupa135

    ChubbyChilupa135 New Member

    I really like this idea, however I do see a few flaws..
    1. 4-2-4 Nidoqueen?? That seems like a lot considering you will usually have 2 out in play.
    2. 3-1-3 Nidoking? Ok this seems good until... 1 Nidorino?? I see this and think "Your just asking for it to be prized, especially since you run Phione and you can't use Evolution Wish as a 5th Rare Candy.. I would say make room for 2 so if one IS prized you have another to evolve into with Phione.

    Other than that (and a 1-1-1 Dusknoir) and maybe a TSD instead of a Night Maintenance and the list looks awesome!!
     
  11. Cookie

    Cookie New Member

    Fixed the list after some serious testing, not rly sure about only 3 Phiones yet, but I'll keep on testing. Added the 1-1-1 Dusknoir and another Nidorino, took out 1 POV, 1-0-1 of the Queen line and 1 Phione. I'm sure Moonlight Stadiums would be a great help, but obviously I can't seem to find space because of the massive amount of pokemons. :/
     
  12. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    I lol'd.


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  13. charchar

    charchar New Member

    corrosion dont say decks suk. what if everyone said taht to you. it wont lose in t3. u play multi as a puni tech. its teh same as an energy. just if u have to attack with claydol. it doesnt really effect teh gaem though...
     
  14. Corrosion

    Corrosion New Member

    lol i dont mean to put anyone down

    i'm just trying to put things in perspective

    Phione is terrible because this deck has 26 pokemon thats half the deck, so all your gonna be drawing is pokemon so i dont think evolving them is going to be a problem but energies are going to be a problem. pachirisu is a much better starter or even stantler to get supporters.

    plus i respect the fact that its "DP-on" but i was just giving constructive criticism lol

    plus nidoqueen has a very powerful attack and i would try to take advantage of it just as much as nidoking thats why 15 energies is not enough. your gonna end up needing scramble energies.

    this deck is about as fast as a moped(idk if i spelled it right)
     
  15. Cookie

    Cookie New Member

    Corrosion: I'm actually pretty sure u haven't EVER tested this list, Phione is the card that makes this fast enough with Claydol to draw into important cards. Pachirisu would actually be very useless in this, with Call nrg/Roseanne I get all needed basics to play asap and then with Claydol/Phione's attack I usually setup quickly. 15 energy is really all I need, even 14 would be just fine. And for the last time, for crying out loud: there are no Scramble energies in DP-on, so i won't add them to the list. >_< And I do take advantage of Queen's attack, that's why there's a 1-1-1 Dusknoir. I also don't understand why you think that Phione is terrible, it's one of the best starters at the moment.

    I take that moped metaphor as a compliment, mopeds are fun. ;)
     
  16. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    Haha, 7 stage 2s with only 15 energy will never work huh?
    I made top 8 at regionals, 5th at Utah states, and 4th at Idaho states with QueenHatter w/techs (Monarchy is what won the Idaho event).
    It played 7 stage 2s, and only 14 energy, along with a good 1/4th of the deck being single cards. And me having the worse prize luck of anyone I know of didn't help that situation any.
    Never gonna work, lol!

    This deck is not going to lose by turn 3, what are you talking about?
    This is no "turn 9" deck, you could very easily be fully set up by turn 4, or even 3.
    And, as has been said like 30 times, it is DP and on.

    A change I would make is take out 2 Phione and play 2 Pachirisu.
    And don't play Multi.
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2008
  17. Sandslash7

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    I'll give you some of my thoughts.

    4-2-2-2 Queen (MT/DF. Invitation rocks)
    2-1-2 King (that is all you will ever use/need. TSD/Main makes up the rest)
    The rest are good, but no Phione

    You want DRE and Scramble. Trust me. Being able to go from nothing to a Vengance for 90 is useful. Dre are also very good. I know that I used them against Darkrai. Claydol attacking vs. dark is good, Plus DRE is just all around beastly.
    4 Call, 4 DRE, 4 Scramble, 5 Psychic.

    Then just fill it with good trainers.

    Good luck!
     
  18. Master_Whiscash_77

    Master_Whiscash_77 New Member

    DP On, people. It's not that hard.
     
  19. Corrosion

    Corrosion New Member

    phione is TERRIBLE

    only 60 hp
    attack is not even free
    the female nidoran is a better starter because it has call for family plus it can poison and has just as much hp
    not to mention phione is only half-decent in like the first 2 turns and then they just rot on your bench (fueling dusknoir) or they are dead draws

    honestly for this deck stantler is probably the best option

    Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

    first of all that deck probably had scrambles or DR(pre-DP) and second - your region must SUCK to lose to a Nido deck
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2008
  20. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    Lol, they must not suck as much as you if you think that Phione is a terrible card.
    14 energy is plenty, you just don't know what you're talking about.
     
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