Empoleon Deck Help

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  1. pokemonfreak

    pokemonfreak New Member

    Hello all. I am playing this deck at NATS and need some feedback, here is the list:

    POKEMON

    3 Piplup (2 DP, 1 MD)
    3 Prinplp (1 DP, 2 MD)
    3 Empoleon (MD)
    3 Magikarp
    3 Gyarados
    2 Baltoy
    2 Claydol
    2 phione (evo wish)
    1 Unknown P


    TRAINERS

    4 Masterball
    2 quickball
    2 great ball
    2 night maintenance

    SUPPORTERS

    3 celio
    1 bebe
    2 roseanne
    1 TVR (tv reporter)
    2 POV
    1 Stevens advice
    2 Copy Cat
    1 Felicitys drawing

    ENERGY

    12 water
    3 call


    Strategy: Hopefully get phione on first turn and try to get out empoleon as quickly as possible. Once out, snipe bench. If i happen to use surf together, it will damage my bench, powering gyarados. But, if it is not tails, i have unknown P to damage gyarados. Claydol keeps cards in my hand. So the deck revolves mainly around empoleon, and gyarados is a 2ndary attacker. This deck is tested at 8-2, placing 2nd to the same deck at BR.



    Cards to add: i think i should add a craudaunt ex to be like dusknoir and get rid of opponents bench, but what would i switch it for. I also want to add dugtrio CG so other empo decks can't snipe.
    THOSE 4 CARDS, WHAT DO I TAKE OUT FOR THEM!!!!
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2008
  2. mewoxys666

    mewoxys666 New Member

    try using more cards for disruption, as for the Dugtrio, good tech but thethingis with Dusknoir or Crawdaunt just avoid the pokemon of choice giving them a false sense of security.

    also maybe more cards that flow with claydol are advisable.IMO

    here try this...

    -3 celios (no need and bebe's help cut your hand down for claydol power)
    -1 TVR pointless
    -1 Felicity pointless
    -2 quickball they shouldn't be needed with your claydol and masterballs
    -2 Great Ball you have roseanne's
    -1 Prinplup
    -1 Magikarpp
    -1 Gyarados
    -1 Water Energy

    total (13)

    ADD
    +4 Team Galatic Wager
    +1 Dugtrio
    +1 Diglett
    +2 Bebe's
    +1 Emploeon Lv. X
    +2 Scramble
    +2 Warp points

    No real need for Dusknoir or Crawduant.

    Let me know if that helps
     
  3. charchar

    charchar New Member

    a deck my friend played with 7 water energy got 1st at 2 brs. 3 scrambles are much better. 11 water is fine. no celios and 4 bebes in total. no tvr and felicstiy draw. +2 stevens. no pov. i think its missing something uh lets see, a good empoleon deck needs RARE CANDY yah., plus a lvl. all dp ppiplups and prinplups. reasons. piplup can attack with no energy, sometimes useful. it has 60 hp. prinplup is better becuase it spreads with aqua shower. doesnt really matter because most of the time u should be rare candying it. dont need garados or unown p. magicarp really gets donked too quick. u play 3/11 basics which are magicarp,which means there is over 25% when u will get it as a starter. u already have a heavy attacker, Empoleon. rather than a 3-3-3-1... a 4-2-3-1 would be better. so -3-3 magi and -p for a 2-1-2 omastar. some warp points definately useful. if ur using it for nats more stuff to change. +2 windstorm. -2 quick ball. It NEVER helps with soo many diff pokemon. trust me. some pluspowers would be useful. 3 TGW very usful. for nats a lot of dusknoir will be played, acually it sort of matters what division ur in. gl for now.
     
  4. smacktack15

    smacktack15 New Member

    Which Division are you in (I can give you better help according to that)


    3 Piplup (2 MD 10+10, 1 DP)
    2 Prinplup (2 DP)
    3 Empoleon (MD)
    2 Magikarp
    2 Gyarados
    2 Baltoy
    2 Claydol
    2 Phione (evo wish)
    1 Unknown P

    (Play Jolteon * PK if you have it)


    TRAINERS





    ENERGY


    Will help with list later if I can, Crystal Beach is the way to go if I don't come back also windstorm and a scramble.
     
  5. charchar

    charchar New Member

    crystal beach and scramble in empoleon?
     
  6. PokePockets

    PokePockets New Member

    -1 Felicity's
    -1 TVR
    -1 Magikarp
    -1 Gyrados

    +1 Steven's
    +1 Roseanne's
    +1 POV
    +1 Empoleon Lv.X

    Those would be my fixes
     
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