Energy Chaos

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by ShadowOfTyranitar, Sep 19, 2003.

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  1. ShadowOfTyranitar

    ShadowOfTyranitar New Member

    My first EON deck. Its probably not too good, I'm still getting over the loss of Neo-on.

    Energy Chaos

    Pokes 19
    4 Eevee
    3 Espy
    4 Seedot (2 surprise, 2 tackle)
    2 Nuzleaf (Razor Leaf)
    3 Shifltry (Fan away)
    2 Igglybuff (good night song)
    1 Dunsparce (strike and run. Finally a truly good Dunsparce)

    Trainers 26
    4 Elm
    4 CC
    3 Research
    3 Claw Fossil
    3 Warp Point
    3 Moo Moo Milk
    1 Wally's Training
    2 Rare Candy
    1 Town Voulenteers
    2 Pokemon Fan Club

    Energy 15
    11 Grass
    4 Recycle

    The first thing you'll ask yourself when looking at this deck is, what?!? Espeon relies on high energy and Shiftry relies on low energy. They cancel eachother out, right?
    Wrong. This deck has been built to have control over the opponents energy. If they are playing low energy to start out with, bring out Shiftry and Fan Away. If they are building an energy brute, bring out Espy. Energy Removals aren't really needed in this deck, because thier dead weight if I get up Espy. Its extremely convienient that Espy's main attack, Energy Crush, is (C)(C)(C), so its splashable.

    Rates/Fixes are appreciated
     
  2. ShadowCacnea

    ShadowCacnea New Member

    I like Sandstorm Espeon a lot. If you have the room to play Espy, play him. As for the deck, quite good in itself. It's a good strategy, the pokemon are fine. But I will say drop an Iggly or 2 for more Dunsparce or even a fourth Espeon or a third Nuzleaf. You need a third Nuzleaf anyway, with no breeders so...onto the trainers, drop something for another Wally's Training and cut an Oak's Research to preserve the supporters (too many). The energy should be fine.
     
  3. ShadowOfTyranitar

    ShadowOfTyranitar New Member

    re

    I AM playing Sandstorm espy. 4 espy is overkill. Rare Candy is the new breeder. Iggly is great stall, and if I bring dunsparce out, I'll probably only end up attacking with it once. I am known for insane draw power. Wally's training isn't that great considering I would only use it with Seedot, as Eevee can find its evolution by itself with "signs of evolution".
     
  4. ShadowCacnea

    ShadowCacnea New Member

    Wally's Training will rarely see play with 1 copy. And I think Wally's Training lets you evolve your active too. And it's not an attack. I'll stop pointing out obvious advantages of Wally's Training vs. Signs of Evolution now.
     
  5. ShadowOfTyranitar

    ShadowOfTyranitar New Member

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    There is no reason to lose a spot in your deck for a card that is pointless because your active evolves itself. Espy is the main poke in my deck, not Shiftry, Shiftry is plan B.
     
  6. dkates

    dkates New Member

    A Stage 2 as plan B? My friend, a Stage 2 should almost always be plan A.
     
  7. ShadowCacnea

    ShadowCacnea New Member

    If you want to use the time to power up a stage 2 evo, then, like dkates said, it has to be plan A. Otherwise there's more effective (and faster) cards to play.
     
  8. ShadowOfTyranitar

    ShadowOfTyranitar New Member

    re

    Stage 2's that evolve with cards like breeder don't need to be plan A. Besides, Espy is far stronger than Shiftry. This definately won't be my permanent EON deck anyway.
     
  9. dkates

    dkates New Member

    You could always continue the high-Energy theme by using Gardevoir and/or Gardevoir ex instead of Shiftry, or the low-Energy/Energy denial theme by adding ER2's and dropping Espy.
     
  10. ShadowCacnea

    ShadowCacnea New Member

    Doesn't matter. Run other cards instead of stage 2 cards. Stage 2's have to be plan A, or they won't se play, which makes them royal wastes of space.
     
  11. HYPER EEVEE

    HYPER EEVEE Iron Chef - Master Emeritus

    Doesn't matter. Run other cards instead of stage 2 cards. Stage 2's have to be plan A, or they won't see play
     
  12. Dek

    Dek New Member

    I like the idea of the Seedot family, but for a deck like this, I would suggest using Delcatty from Sandstorm. It would work very well with this kind of deck.
     
  13. Pidgeotto Trainer

    Pidgeotto Trainer New Member

    Almost for sure Igglybuff will not be in e-on. The sets have shown that they are taking away the free retreat babies. They wouldn't leave behind those couple promos. The Best Promos are the only question.
     
  14. Dendrobatida

    Dendrobatida New Member

    I'm in agreement that Espeon (sandstorm) is a nasty poke, but it seems that shiftry's pokemon power and espeon's second (strong) attack are at odds...Shiftry alone is wicked, espeon alone is wicked, but what is the benefit of playing one poke whose attack does more damage for more energy (attached to opponent's pokes), and another poke whose power removes energy, and whose attack does more damage for less energy (attached to the defending)? It seems counterintuitive to me. You could, perhaps, pair shiftry with some other pokemon, such as one who uses an attack that requires energy to be equal to be at its most effective (I think most of them fall under the name of syncronize, or something to that effect), or with something that does damage based upon opponent's hand size, which Shiftry increases on a coin flip (gardevoir ex, or one of the slowkings...Is there an Aquapolis one? My memory is not doing me any favors today). I suppose I can see wanting to put your opponent into a "darned if I do [attach energy], darned if I don't" scenario, but in this game of speed, you can't really afford to spread your deck over the two disparate, and conflicting, strategies. I'd try speed shiftry (4-2-4, with 4 rare candy and some wynaut or dunsparce for early speed), or espeon with BBP (pokemon ex work well...maybe stick with psychic and go 2 mewtwo ex and 2 wobuffett, with wynaut for early game fun). You could even go shiftry/electric, since that covers against any strong metal pokemon you might face. Sandstorm elekid and electabuzz are a nasty combo, even against scizor when shiftry is on the bench, yanking those metals away.
     
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