exploud, an underdog deck?

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by indokid, Mar 15, 2008.

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  1. indokid

    indokid New Member

    at the c.a states there were a couple people running exploud
    i saw 2 at masters and 1 at seniors.
    all did pretty decent, just the build wansn't right
    it kills the bench with ambient noise
    anyone think with the right build
    this deck would have a chance against the
    top tier decks liek a g&g or a magmortar?
     
  2. ~Blazi-King~

    ~Blazi-King~ New Member

    Actually, a close friend of mine made Top 8 (At TX States) with a WONDERFUL build of it to counter both GG and Magm.
     
  3. z-man

    z-man New Member

    Personally, I think its a 50-50 against Magmortar, but its big problem is vs Gallade. You need to prevent attacks, and prevent weakness at the same time. Weakness makes gallade's heavy hitting attack do more damage, so the gallade user doesn't have to flip that many prizes. The two ways that I can think of to get rid of weakness are Holon Energy FF, and Blastoise delta. Its no big deal so far, but you will also need to get rid of effects of attacks so the gallade user doesn't use gallade's first attack, and then follow up to ko the exploud. The only way I can think of to get rid of effects is Holon Energy WP. Keep in mind that to get a good, and protected Exploud, you have to have no effects, and no weakness. WP, and FF wouldn't be a good idea because you'll need 4 energies on your exploud to make it protected from Gallade. If you are going to play exploud, I would recommend that you play it with WP and Blastoise. The only problem with that plan is that keeping a WP, and a water energy on the exploud at all times while setting up, and keeping a Blastoise in play is hard during a normal game. For that reason, I don't think Exploud can be able to compete with Gallade until something comes out to tip the match into Exploud's favor.
     
  4. Black Mamba

    Black Mamba New Member

    couldnt you just play holon ff and unown g? That would cover weakness and effects, and with ff you could also play fightings, to make your banette matchup not suck quite so badly.
     
  5. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    Unown G & Holon FF are both super helpful in the Gallade matchup. The problem with Exploud though is the flippy nature of his first attack. If you get lucky there are few decks that can beat exploud ... but bad flips can doom him even in the most favorable matchups. An extended run of bad luck will kill you and your record. I love exploud but will never run him in a sanctioned event again.
     
  6. Chromecatz

    Chromecatz New Member

    what did JK lose to in top 8?
     
  7. DL24

    DL24 New Member

    Hopefully w/ some cards from the next set, exploud will become more playable!!
     
  8. Dendrobatida

    Dendrobatida New Member

    The problem with Unown G is that you also want to run cessation with exploud, since the combo of ambient noise + no powers is just too sick to pass up.

    I run mine with Dodrio/scrambles/boosts and the holon WP with water/psychic. Dodrio adds decent fighting resistance, a free retreater, and an excellent cleaner after you've swarmed an exploud or 4.
     
  9. SLOW DECK

    SLOW DECK New Member

    I have played it, I can get swarms going with Dodrio, but it still is flippy because of all the damage. Not strategic enough.
     
  10. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    Exploud/Dodrio is such a good deck, I mean spread and spread and lock until you can get multi KOs. Against Gardy u Ko the threats, against Magmortar you spread let them take prizes,spread with Exploud and then clean up with Dodrio.Its nice.
     
  11. z-man

    z-man New Member

    I forgot about unown g. Everyone ignore what I said in my last post! Unown G + Holon Energy FF is the way to go.
     
  12. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    I don't like the deck anymore. I tried MadHatter's build (which looks at least halfway decent) and it worked just fine until I built it IRL...then it just tanked. I rarely got set up, and I never got the flips I wanted from Ambient Noise. The fact that you have to tech so much against GG to make it barely playable is really sad. Maybe once Nats rolls around and we see a meta shift, perhaps it might do better?
     
  13. Kabutops141

    Kabutops141 New Member

    Exploud is good, but will get better along with MANY other cards after dp5 comes out. Played w/ Dodrio sounds pretty good. I'll have to try that out.
     
  14. fragnito

    fragnito New Member

    play it with altaria and holon wp, cess and crystal beach lock and ambient noise
    thats how i do it and gg gives it no problems
     
  15. (TYranitarFReak)

    (TYranitarFReak) New Member

    The flip is a problem.

    sometimes you got heads on the first and confuse them on the second flip.

    sometimes you need 50 damage to KO but you get damage spread.

    It also takes a ****-lot of time to KO 'one' gallade/gardy.
     
  16. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    when u spread with Exploud,u can get multi kos anytime and if u play it with Dodrio,its like a god sent to to spread every turn sicne Dodrio will clean up
     
  17. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Except Flygon, that if you in that case DONT get the damage flip...

    That is the problem with Exploud. The attack is awesome, but since sometimes you want some solid damage and Exploud can't easily guarantee that...yeah...
     
  18. Randy8124

    Randy8124 New Member

    What Cresselia X with Exploud? After damage spread, bring up Cress X for the KO and 2 prizes.
     
  19. ShadowGuard

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    Boost Energy to use the second attack if you need it.

    I tested some matches with Exploud, but it's still too flippy, so I didn't play it at states.

    Any experiences about whether it's better to run build-up support (Claydol) or to use Cessation Crystal?
     
  20. The_Lurb

    The_Lurb New Member

    I've been testing it for awhile and it's definately better to play it with Cessation then Claydol.

    I use Furret to set-up opposed to Claydol since it can get your techs, special energy, exploud swarm, etc. guaranteed whereas with Claydol you need to draw into them and you can't play Cessation.
     

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