Fire In the Hole!

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by pokenewbie, Jan 19, 2008.

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  1. pokenewbie

    pokenewbie New Member

    pls leave comment and suggetions tnx

    pokemons 14

    4 Magmar MT
    4 Magmortar SW
    3-3 Electrode SW

    trainers 9

    4 Plus Power
    3 WarpPoint
    2 Night Maintenance

    Supporters 15

    4 POV
    3 TVR
    4 Celio's Network
    4 Roseanne's Research


    2 Strength Charm

    Energy 20
    13 Fire
    5 Lighting
    2 Multi

    -for water weakness of Magmortar
    -ion blast for 100 (electrode is like a grenade for Emp and Gatr),OHKO Empoleon, Feraligatr the energy shift for Magmortar +fire energy -----more damage for Magmortar(empowering Magmortar)

    -main attacker
    -gains damage while healing itself
  2. elekid_957

    elekid_957 New Member

    take out:
    3 electric
    2 multi
    1 magmorter

    add in:
    1 magmorter lv.x
    3 DRE
    2 scramble
  3. poketo

    poketo New Member

    Way Way to much energy when you have Night Maintence And you have only 2 lines you dont need as much even though magmorter trashes the energy that is why you use DRE
  4. pokenewbie

    pokenewbie New Member

    yup i was thinking of DRE, scrambles and Magmortar lvl. x

    can you give me any suggestions for a player without scrambles, DRE and magmortar lvl x.
  5. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Fixed the deck up. I changed your trainer line and energy line and a little of the pokemon line so it would run much smoother in the deck.. The reason I added holon castform is because this combo.. You have an active trode and a benched voltorb you go energy shift, then ion blast.. kill your self get knock out.. attach electrode to voltorb (or any other pokemon that needs energy) then next turn castform the trode to your hand and evolve into it, then boom another 100.
  6. piñata

    piñata New Member

    Wow that combo is sweet!!!!!

    Whoever thought of that is a genius
  7. pokenewbie

    pokenewbie New Member

    nice! with the castforms

    TVR rather than POV?

    hmmmm i'd rather keep POV, coz the deck doesn't really need discards

    wish i had DRE and scrambles.
    i just started playing pokemon TCG after Diamond and Pearl MT was released

    i will finds those cards ^_^ that i need.

    thanks for the suggestions
  8. poketo

    poketo New Member

    Night Maintence pulls back the cards trashed with TVR and most decks will just trash unwanted cards unlike putting cards on the bottem with no chance of useing when needed
  9. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    He plays cards that can shuffle his deck so if the card gets shuffled into the deck you have a chance to get it. Also You don't want to waste NM so POv is better then TVR. Also if its a trainer you have no way to get it back.
  10. ShotoCloneX

    ShotoCloneX New Member

    doesn't DRE negate bench damage by 10 if its on magmortar?
  11. prof unky dan

    prof unky dan New Member

    as for prof oaks visit, if you play it an have a poke in your hand, put the poke at the bottom then play dusk ball, IF you really need the poke

    in this deck without tyflussion i'd my pov over tvr

    with electrode an scrambles, that could really turn the game around quick, blow up electrode, opp takes a prize, attach electrode to magmortar, next turn attach a scamble along to him an WOW thats allot


    TODDakaESTEBAN New Member

    that strategy is absolutely better than the strat of my rayquaaza magmorter deck! the only thing is that electrode doesn't leave you behind in prizes, if your taking a prize with it, how has that factor played out in test games

    unky dan's right about the pov, without typhlosion why choose to discard pov does the same thing but you put a card on bottom of your deck, it would work well with a pokedex-dusk ball engine, also 3 trainers like dex or nav instead of the tvr,because absol will kill your consistancy with so few cards to get unsearchable cards like scramble and dre especially since absol is commonly played with gallade in a lot of metagames and gallade autowins morter unless you get god luck of drawing your scrambles exactly when you need them, but like i said without trainers you probably won't get your setup AND your scrambles fast enough to beat gallade
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2008
  13. pokenewbie

    pokenewbie New Member

    that's right, coz most the cards are card fisher in deck not in discard pile, so i have a wide range of choices not just pokemons and energy cards (that are important if you have them in your have already).

    thanks for the comment!

    electrode does not just suicides all the time. he does damage too and when you know that he's gonna die then blow him up to kill the opponents pokemon too,instead of letting him die alone---"its better for each players to take a prize card rather than only your opponent". he also has free retreat cost for escaping.

    suiciding electrode requires timing and a lot of decision because its too risky, your opponent gets a prize card too.

    that is the decks weakness, so what i did to counter that is........
    just don't suicide all the time "die with honor" ahahahha ^_^.

    *turn 2: with electrode vs an evolve stage 1 pokemon (too bad if blissey,GRRRRR) is good if i'm the only one who has a bench pokemon
    (luck required hehehe)
  14. pokenewbie

    pokenewbie New Member

    DRE negates 10 damage to benches.

    for castforms, erm i just thought that exploding electrodes in a row is not that good so just use electrode for backup when needed when castforming him(that saves celios for getting electrode)
  15. poketo

    poketo New Member

    Didn't i tell you that on pojo?
  16. Mypasswordis1111

    Mypasswordis1111 New Member

    I would take out the magmorter and put in jumpluff

    this is my list




    4-Tv Reporter
    3-Professor Oak´s Visit
    2-Steven´s Advice
    4-Celio´s Network
    2-Rosseane´s Research
    1-Team Galatic´s Wager
    2-Great Ball
    1-Time-Space Distortion
    1-Night Maintenance
    3-Lake Boundary
    2-Crystal Beach
    3-Cessation Crystal
    1-Buffer Piece


  17. pokenewbie

    pokenewbie New Member

    so POV is better in this deck.

    dont waste night maitenance.
    "at the bottom of the deck is useless"? hmmm discard pile is useless to but at the bottom of deck,can be drawn when shuffled.

    *mypasswordis1111 - hmmmm???? doesnt even read about the topic.your list is common and a lot of people saw better ones

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