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Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by Flaming Monkey, Jun 17, 2008.

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  1. Flaming Monkey

    Flaming Monkey New Member

    Pokemon:20
    3 Delcatty EX
    2 Infernape lv. X
    4 Skitty (Tail Whip from PK)
    4 Chimchar DP
    3 Monferno DP
    2 Infernape MD
    2 Delcatty PK

    Trainer/Supporter/Stadiums:18
    1 Amulet Coin
    2 Rare Candy
    4 Dusk Ball
    1 Night Maintenance
    1 Castaway
    1 Team Galactic's Wager
    1 Premier Ball
    1 Warp Point
    2 Scott
    1 professor Elm's Training Method
    2 Felicity's Drawing
    1 Holon Mentor

    Energies:22
    :fire:22


    First of all the Dusk Balls are there instead of Bebe's Searches because it helps against Gady Gallade decks for Telepass.

    First, you use Burning Head. Then Energy Draw. Then Felicity's Drawing. Then Constrain. Then do massive damage with Upstream.

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    oops! I mean Gardy Gallade decks for the Dusk Balls.
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2008
  2. garlade 07

    garlade 07 New Member

    as your energys 12 fire 4dre and 2scrambles
     
  3. zerophenx_chaos

    zerophenx_chaos New Member

    if you're so stressed about gardy gallade decks for challenges, i recommend Island Hermit. No gallade wants to copy that.
     
  4. Flaming Monkey

    Flaming Monkey New Member

    How would that help? They are drawing cards. You can't choose a Pokemon to get.
     
  5. Muscovy Level X

    Muscovy Level X New Member

    Don't run so many Delcatty ex. 2 is good. Personaly I'd run at least a 1-0-1 Typhlosion MT line for aceleration.
    And for Infernapes, I run 2 DP, 1 MD, 1 Lv.X. The Lv/X's attack is hard to prepare, and haveing max of 2 in play means no energy aceleration. The DP one is beter than the MD one (only by a bit) becauseit does a bit more damage (and doen't rely on scramble [it's had to lose and win at the same time]), and flipy as Meteor Punch is, it's been very usefull.
    You've got too many energy, you want 11-14 :fire:, and 4 DRE/Scramble
    Trainer-wise, you've got a good idea. Few supporter means less telepassing, and faster setup.

    Here's an example of a new list:
    Pokemon:20
    1 Infernape lv. X
    1 Infernape MD
    2 Infernape (DP)
    3 Monferno (MD) <-- MD one is better
    4 Chimchar DP
    2 Delcatty EX
    3 Delcatty PK
    4 Skitty (Tail Whip from PK)

    Trainer/Supporter/Stadiums:24
    4 Rare Candy
    4 Dusk Ball
    4 Quick Ball
    2 Master Ball
    2 Night Maintenance
    1 Copycat
    1 Team Galactic's Wager
    2 Roseanne
    2 Bebe
    2 Felicity's Drawing

    Energies:16
    12 :fire:
    3 DRE
    1 Scramble


    As you can see, very speed based, but won't deck itself, and can grab discarded stuff.
     
  6. Flaming Monkey

    Flaming Monkey New Member

    Whoa!

    No to all of those changes because Scramble is not needed because the attacks are super easy to charge up, you don't want double rainbows because they kill upstream with the minus 10, I also need constrain and Burning head a lot!
     
  7. Muscovy Level X

    Muscovy Level X New Member

    Have you actualy used this against most big decks? I run one simmilar to the list I posted, and it's great against everything but Empoleon.
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2008
  8. Flaming Monkey

    Flaming Monkey New Member

    Only against insanely good ho-oh decks that are like myne.
     
  9. Muscovy Level X

    Muscovy Level X New Member

    I built my around energy aceleration. I first started with sothing like what you had, but it was to hard to make Upstream regularly worthwhile, and I decided that this was far too tempting:
    -Attack with Infernape
    (Opponent's turn)
    -Use Firestarter (Blazeken/Typhlosion) to put a discarded energy on a benched 'Ape.
    -Put my energy per turn on the benched Infernape.
    -Free retreat to the benched 'Ape, then repeat.

    After a while, I either Flare Up them, or use Upstream if Infernape gets Koed.
     
  10. SuicidalPikachu

    SuicidalPikachu New Member

    here's my Infercatty list:

    4 Chimchar DP
    2 Monferno MD
    3 Infernape MD (i feel this to be ALOT better than the DP one)
    1 Infernape lvX

    3 Skitty PK
    2 Delcatty PK
    1 Delcatty Ex

    3 Pachirisu GE

    1 Duskull DP
    1 Dusknoir DP

    4 Celio
    3 Roseanne's
    4 Felicity/TVR
    4 Rare Candy
    3 PlusPower
    2 Warp Point
    2 Night Maintenance

    12 Fire Energy
    4 DRE
    1 Scramble

    now, against GG i just send up an Ape to "mark" a Ralts, put 10 damage on it, so that if it goes Gallade i can come up w/ a scramble'd ape and kill it, or an ape w/ a fire energy and a DRE+pluspower, which happens alot. 3 Delcatty Ex is OVERKILL, you dont want to use it against GG unless it is for like the final KO.
     
  11. EeveeLover

    EeveeLover Member Services Administrator

    Why don't you have a look at the deck that Tonja plays at League. You will see that she runs Boost, DRE, and Scrambles, as well as a cyclone or warp (I can't remember which.) The deck is pretty fast for her and I know that it has caused you some frustration in the past. From her and I both. :tongue:
     
  12. DreamChaser AJ

    DreamChaser AJ New Member

    You don't have to flip the prizes.
     
  13. Flaming Monkey

    Flaming Monkey New Member

    How about I take a Dusk ball out for another elm?
     
  14. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    4 chimchar DP
    2 Monferno MD
    3 Infernape MD
    1 infernape lv. x
    1 rotom
    3 skitty
    3 delcatty
    1 delcatty ex
    1-0-1 typhlosion
    ~20~

    4 DRE
    3 Scramble
    11 Fire
    ~18~

    4 Rare candy
    4 celios network
    4 TVR
    3 Plus power
    1 Strength charm
    2 NM
    2 Windstorm
    ~22~

    You should be attacking with infernape more than delcatty ex. Catty ex and ape lv.x are only techs.

    Never base a deck around a lv.x and if you want a deck built around catty there are so many better choices if you must use the card. Otherwise catty ex is not a good card.
     
  15. Muscovy Level X

    Muscovy Level X New Member

    Bebe is better, because is can grab anything.

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    Boost energy in Infernacatty? Am I missing something here?
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2008
  16. Flaming Monkey

    Flaming Monkey New Member

    NO TYPHLOSIONS!!! I want the energies in my discard pile. And Bebe's is a no because you have to put something into the deck and you'll need everything in your hand for constrain.

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    In this situation Delcatty ex is the big attacker because there are no togekisses to super charge the Infernapes. :unknown-p:unknown-o:unknown-k:unknown-e:unknown-m:unknown-o:unknown-n
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2008
  17. Muscovy Level X

    Muscovy Level X New Member

    You can put back a non-energy. Celio is better, but you want to grab Delcatty if that's your focus. Personaly I run 3 Celio, 1 Bebe, since I have only 1 'Catty.
    Why even focus on Delcatty ex? It's good for a sursrise KO, and messing with your opponent, but it isn't consistant.
    Think of it this way: How many turns does it take to get 9 energy discarded? (Average). Infernape (DP)needs only 1 turn to do 90. And running ex cards when you don't need to is a no, since they're to easy to snipe.
     
  18. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    Focus on ape or catty. If you play ape then use infercatty where you could use a list that has been given to you. If you need ot play catty ex then play this

    4-3 catty ex
    3 catty PK
    1 speargle
    1 minum
    1 Pachi

    And windstorm, and you don't even need to use a lot of suporters. You can just run 4 felicities and 4 great ball
    3 roseanne, 3 PETM, 4 quick ball, and just kinda like that. It works a lot better than with ape as your support I tested it myself.
     
  19. Muscovy Level X

    Muscovy Level X New Member

    If you ue your current list, try adding in more felicity's drawing and Holon Mentor. You need the discard.

    And Flaming Monkey, do you have RedShark? We could test our Infernacatty decks to prove my point.
     
  20. Flaming Monkey

    Flaming Monkey New Member

    I don't know how to set it up or get it.
     
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