Frostic Aura

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by Napoleon, Mar 1, 2008.

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  1. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    At league my newly made darkrai/blissey/weavile deck failed to a pure magmortar deck, although I got set up faster than the other guy did. I adjusted it a bit and still lost.
    Soooo...I decided to try and make a deck that beats that deck and can still handle the metagame.

    I need some little touches on it so all suggestions are welcome, unless you say "Use lucario Lv.X!" or "Put in a cess crystal!" or even "Who cares about empoleon? Play Gardilade!" i do not have those cards and won't be getting them anytime soon (unless that kid at league trades a Luca Lv.X to me).

    It is a combination of Lucario and Empoleon, and the only reason I called it "Frostic" is because it sounds a bit better than "icy" or "cold."

    This deck is a bench basher using Aura Sphere, Aqua Jet, Aqua shower and brine to deal small amounts of damgeto the bench, before finishing off with Hydro Impact for the bigg'uns and Ice Blade for the little'uns

    Frostic Aura Decklist

    Pokemon
    4x Riolu
    4x Lucario
    4x Piplup
    2x Prinplup
    2x Empoleon
    2x Empo Lv.X
    2x Mantyke
    1x Mantine

    21 Pokemon

    Trainers
    4x Celio
    2x Roseanne's
    2x Night Main
    2x Scott
    2x Master Ball
    2x Speed Stadium
    2x Candy
    2x Island Hermit
    2x Great Ball
    2x Stone

    22 Trainers

    NRG
    8x Fighting
    9x Water

    17 NRG

    You want to start with Riolu and try to get wild kick, before quickly evolving into Lucario so that you can Aura Sphere. You can then build up Empoleon, which will take 3 turns at minimum. You can use things like great ball, celio, roseannes and Island hermit to get it into play. Then you can build a support Lucario just in case your original Luca and Empo get knocked out. After the damage is spread, you can bring out Empo for those finishing touches before you wipe your opponent's pokemon out.

    I was thinking about putting in Mantyke and Mantine so that you can have a never-ending stream of Hydro Impacts or retreat damaged water pokes for free. I will probably do that.
    Also, Lucario counters Empoleons Weakness to lightning as well:smile:
    So there ya have it! Frostic Aura, with never ending Hydro Impact!
     
  2. TavishReppinUtah

    TavishReppinUtah New Member

    -1 prinplup (you don't need two if you run two rare candys)
    -1 mantyke
    -2 night maintenance
    -2 stone (you have rosannnes its better than stones)
    -2 scott
    -2 great ball
    +2 island hermit
    +4 great ball
    +4 pokenav (speed and for dre and energy)

    RUN THESE ENERGIES INSTEAD

    4 double rainbow energy
    2 multi energy
    5 fighting energy
    6 water energy
     
  3. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    I appreciate your suggestion but I have no double rainbow energies and only 1 pokenav. Unfortunately as well, I only have 2 hermits.
    I have also found that in bench bashing decks like this, dre is not always the best option because it reduces your damage by 10, and those aqua showers and aura spheres are very important. I run 2 prinplup for consistency and because I can have 2 empos sitting on the bench while prinplup can aqua shower a few times to set up for the kill.
     
  4. TavishReppinUtah

    TavishReppinUtah New Member

    yeah if you think about it though dre is for speed also and if you use it you can hit bench early and than hit again next turn which would be the turn that you would normally be attacking
     
  5. pokmeman

    pokmeman New Member

    Take out a water energy and a Piplup (4-2-2-2?) and add in 2 TVR, because otherwise you will find yourself frustrated with the lack of draw.
     
  6. ifiritshellfire

    ifiritshellfire New Member

    here's my fixes:
    -2 Mantyke
    -1 Mantine
    -2 Empoleon Lv. X
    -2 Great Ball
    -2 Stone
    +1 Rare Candy
    +2 Master Ball
    +2 Empoleon
    +1 Roseanne's
    +3 Prof. Oak's Visit
     
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2008
  7. Jason

    Jason New Member

    Mckay - are you in Sydney, correct?

    Then... the metagame there is MUCH tougher than it is in Tasmania. Trust me, it is.

    Your best option is to go for 4-4-3-1 Empoleon line with 4 Absols, 1 Umbreon*, 4 Team Galactic Mars, 2 Team Galactic Wager, 1-1 Mantine line, 3 Cessation Crystals and alotta waters and a nice number of darks and not to forget about 2 or 3 scrambles.

    Lots of nice disruption and this really hurts Magmortar badly and trust me - this deck concept can beat Cremen (I know what he's running) so does David. (yes I know what's hes running too).

    Anyways, good luck and work out the list yourself with the advices I just gave you.
     
  8. flariados

    flariados New Member

    Don't play Double Rainbow energy in this. That is bad advice because it reduces the damage of your snipers so much that they do almost nothing.
     
  9. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    First things first:
    Pokmeman, I have no TVR and am sad to say it. Luckily, I will be ordering some.

    Ifiritshellfire, the engine of the deck is to use mantine to reduce my retreat to 0 and then spam Hydro impact . It works.

    Jason, yes I'm in Sydney. I only have 2 normal Empo and am considering Quickitune so the cess's are on order. I never even got a packet of the series that Umbreon is in which is kinda bad. No Absols, only 2 Mars and 1 Wager. All this exotic stuff is making me lean even further towards Quickitune. At least I won't go out of pocket with that.

    Flariados, I strongly agree against DRE on snipe decks.
     
  10. pokedoll

    pokedoll New Member

    Lol, how can you know what David's playing? I'm his sister I don't even know what deck he is playing. :tongue:
     
  11. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member

    Ok.......
     
  12. Napoleon

    Napoleon New Member


    And that is more commonly known as Swift Empoleon.
     
  13. charchar

    charchar New Member

    1 scramble energy?
     
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