Gatrade - Check it out!

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by HurricaneWarty, Sep 8, 2007.

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  1. HurricaneWarty

    HurricaneWarty New Member

    This is a deck I worked on all last season, and did not miss a top cut when using it. So naturally, I decided against it when Nationals came. oops. Anyway, I think it can still be viable even after losing the holon engine, because Nidoqueen can provide you with the consistency you need by searching out pokemon. Here's the list:

    POKEMON

    4 Totodile d
    3 Croconaw d
    4 Feraligatr d

    2 Nidoran (F) d
    1 Nidorina d
    2 Nidoqueen d

    2 Exeggcute d
    2 Exeggutor d

    1 Shellder d
    1 Cloyster d

    4 Holon's Castform


    TRAINERS

    4 Holon Mentor
    4 Holon Adventurer
    4 Rare Candy
    4 Windstorm
    1 Professor Rowan


    ENERGY

    4 Scramble
    4 Metal (special)
    4 d Rainbow
    2 DRE
    2 Cyclone
    1 Multi


    The main strategy is obviously to swarm as many Gatr as possible to up the damage of your delta pokemon Castform is the ideal starter to start drawing lots of cards. Nidoqueen is great because it helps you setup your bench and get out your stage 2's much quicker, and can also search for energy in the form of Castform. I know the trainers are pretty bare-bone, but the reason for that is I am trying to rely on pokemon as much as possible with TGW around now. The energy setup is pretty good, but could use some tweaking I think. The cyclone's are there because they are nice to attach to the first Castform and potentially switch out their ideal starter, and the Multi because I needed at least 11 first turn attachable energy. I've found 4 Scramble 2 DRE is the way to go, because I don't do huge amounts of damage so the -10 really hurts, and this deck plays so well from behind in mid game. Anyway, let me know what you think! All comments and suggestions are definitely welcome.
     
  2. Blassari

    Blassari New Member

    DO you really need 4 Windstorms?
     
  3. millionkp

    millionkp New Member

    3 windstorms would do
     
  4. PSYCO829

    PSYCO829 New Member

    -4 holon castform
    -1 rowan
    -1-1 cloyster
    -2 mentor
    -1 adv

    +4-1 chimecho
    +2 scott
    +1 TGW
    +2 night maintinence

    h castform is a terrible starter now that the holon engine is gone IMO
    not to mention you already have 17 energy without him
    chimecho works better fot this kind of deck
    without h castform, 4 mentor is overkill, so we can drop two
    rowan i dont think is good without stevens, so we can drop him
    4 adventurer is way too much, so we can drop one
    cloyster doesnt do much, most decks that snipe would just drop a cessation crystal and ko the cloyster without a care
    scott helps you get useful supporters to keep yourself setup
    wager is hand control, and hand control is good
    night maintenance can get back pokemon once they die, and queen can get em right back out
     
  5. zthunderz2

    zthunderz2 New Member

    justin durrant
     
  6. B_B_C

    B_B_C New Member

    You stole my name form my gatr deck. Any way drop the castforms for ching.
     
  7. Pokekid

    Pokekid New Member

    drop queen
    go meg d
    make it a 3-2-3 line
    take out 1-1 egg line for that
     
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  8. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    hey justin had i been able to go to nats with you then i would have made sure you used this and simba would have used magamnium ex and then the both of you would have made the finals, but then you would have lost to simba.

    and you deffenatly dont need 4 mentor.
     
  9. L00p_H01eS

    L00p_H01eS New Member


    what are u saying..?? cant understand a word ur saying....


    and warty. drop a 1-1-1 gatr line u dont need them and also
    -2 mentor
    -1 windstorm
    -1 adventure
    -1 rowan
    -4 metal
    -4scram
    -1 multi
    -2 cyclone
    +8 lighting
    +3 castaway
    +2 celios
    +2 TGW
    +1 copy cat
    + 3 strength sharm
     
  10. Let Fire Fall

    Let Fire Fall New Member

    you have no celios, how are you going to get Nidoqueen out?

    and Multi Energy does nothing but provide a colorless energy since all your other energies are special energies...
     
  11. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    i was telling my friend hurricanewarty (justin) that if i had gone to nationals with him and our friends i would have told him to play his gatrqueen deck and my other friend simba to play his meganium ex deck and they would have both made it to the finals, then my friend simba would have won.

    it isnt that hard to understand...

    and that he doesnt need 4 mentors.
     
  12. Dom

    Dom New Member

    Looks good.

    I'd probably go Fearow over Queen. You won't be attacking with Queen at all much here and S1>S2 where possibly anyday. Big difference speed and space wise.
     
  13. L00p_H01eS

    L00p_H01eS New Member

    master of puppets
    well i understood the 4 mentor part ....

    and

    hey justin had i been able to go to nats with you then i would have made sure you used this and simba would have used magamnium ex and then the both of you would have made the finals, but then you would have lost to simba.

    is alot diffrent from

    i was telling my friend hurricanewarty (justin) that if i had gone to nationals with him and our friends i would have told him to play his gatrqueen deck and my other friend simba to play his meganium ex deck and they would have both made it to the finals, then my friend simba would have won.

    DOM
    i disagree with dom...

    queen = stage 2 (more hp) + more dmg + power can be stacked + basic form has 50 chance of avoiding the attk

    fearow = stage 1 (less hp) + weak to lighting (so is gatr so u want to avoid that) + power CANT be stacked
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2007
  14. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    its not different at all, its just in my second one i explained it a little more so that you could understand.
    they both say that had i gone to nats (nationals) i would have made sure that he used his gatrqueen and simba (my other friend) would have used magainium ex and they would have both made finals and that simba would have ended up winning.
    made plenty of sense to me bud...

    but, alas, i do have to agree with you to keep queen in instead of fearow because he does use the queen to attack every so often and he can get his castforms with it.
     
  15. HurricaneWarty

    HurricaneWarty New Member

    Hey guys thanks for all the suggestions. I really believe I need 4 mentor in the deck, and for now any deck I play will probably start out w/4 mentor in it, since I need the consistency of getting one very early on. I like the idea of going with Meganium over Nidoqueen though, since it is still just as strong as an attacker. I dunno about Fearow though. Yeah it's power is great, but it's much more fragile and I end up using queen a ton to attack. The reason for the 1 Rowan as well is to refresh my deck. I find myself cutting it close (and losing a couple of times) because I draw through my deck way too fast. I also like the idea of going with the Chimecho over Castform, although it's nice to be able to bounce my scrambles back and forth as needed.
     
  16. Dark Ninja

    Dark Ninja New Member

    Fearow over queen. It sets up faster. And with all of the fast deck running around, you need to be able to set up as fast as them. Queen takes too long and requires too many resources.
     
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