How do you cook a duck?

[Magic_Umbreon]

Well, the "randomize-ur-hand-cards" technique does help somehow.

Also, try to make 1 card "higher " than the rest. Ur opponent would likely to grab that one. (It works, at least in psychology)

7.6.4. Cheating
Cheating is the highest form of Unsporting Conduct that a player can display.
Players who intentionally commit infractions are looking to gain an unfair
advantage over other players at the event. The Head Judge should carefully
consider whether an infraction was intentional or not before applying this penalty.
If the Head Judge feels that an infraction was unintentional, this penalty
should not be applied.
Examples of Unsporting Conduct: Cheating include:
• Drawing extra cards.
• Taking cards from the discard pile and adding them to your hand or deck.
• Offering some form of compensation to an opponent for a concession.
• Altering match results after the conclusion of the match.
• Playing with marked cards.
• Lying to event staff.
• Modification of the Card-Dex to misrepresent official card text.
• Arbitrarily adjusting the Special Conditions or damage counters put on
any Pokémon in play.
• Use of dubious game actions intended to deceive your opponent into
making misplays.
Recommended Starting Penalty:
Tier 1: Disqualification
Tier 2: Disqualification

Seriously, think about it.

 

[SPARTA]

^pwned

 

[Cyrus]

Seriously, think about it.

Relying on the eye trick is arguably more of a cheating maneuver than Ttar's countermeasure. How the heck is the opponent going to back up a claim of "my opponent didn't discard the card he was looking at?"The text says RANDOM, and although in an ideal world shuffling the hand would be better, Ttar's measure is more timely, and punishes his opponent for trying to "beat the system."

"Use of dubious game actions intended to deceive your opponent into
making misplays" applies to people duping their opponents into making poor plays. Example:

Johnny: ugh Taylor, show me the energy in your hand and I'll almost certainly concede.
Taylor: *shows Psychic Energy*
Johnny: *smiles, then plays Rocket's Admin and proceeds to win the game because Taylor is energy-starved*

^THAT is what would get you a DQ! Lol!

 

[SPARTA]

Relying on the eye trick is arguably more of a cheating maneuver than Ttar's countermeasure. How the heck is the opponent going to back up a claim of "my opponent didn't discard the card he was looking at?"The text says RANDOM, and although in an ideal world shuffling the hand would be better, Ttar's measure is more timely, and punishes his opponent for trying to "beat the system."

"Use of dubious game actions intended to deceive your opponent into
making misplays" applies to people duping their opponents into making poor plays. Example:

Johnny: ugh Taylor, show me the energy in your hand and I'll almost certainly concede.
Taylor: *shows Psychic Energy*
Johnny: *smiles, then plays Rocket's Admin and proceeds to win the game because Taylor is energy-starved*

^THAT is what would get you a DQ! Lol!

How would that get you a DQ? I saw Richard do that to Anthoy at a Battle Road, the judge just kinda laughed.

 

[Cyrus]

Most judges do laugh, but the example I showed you is the most perfect example of duping an opponent.

If "Johnny's" weekly tourney took place three years later, he would've gotten DQ'ed, and if "Richard's" judge was aware of the guidelines, then he would've automatically DQ'ed Richard _because_ it's policy.

 

[rhodesia123]

i believe "Use of dubious game actions intended to deceive your opponent into
making misplays" means something like hiding an energy card directly under another one, to make your opponent think you have 1 less energy attached than you really have

 

[SPARTA]

Most judges do laugh, but the example I showed you is the most perfect example of duping an opponent.

If "Johnny's" weekly tourney took place three years later, he would've gotten DQ'ed, and if "Richard's" judge was aware of the guidelines, then he would've automatically DQ'ed Richard _because_ it's policy.

Policy for what? Richard said "You have a DRE, don't you?" Anthony showed it to him, and Rich dropped a wager. What's illeagle about that, Anthony voluntarily showed him a card from his hand.

 

[DarthPika]

I have bin testing Honchkrow out, and keep loosing to Hurricane. Any ideas on how to beat it?

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Policy for what? Richard said "You have a DRE, don't you?" Anthony showed it to him, and Rich dropped a wager. What's illeagle about that, Anthony voluntarily showed him a card from his hand.

That's not cheating, it's called your opponent did somthing stuppid and should have known better.

 

[Let Fire Fall]

I have bin testing Honchkrow out, and keep loosing to Hurricane. Any ideas on how to beat it?

Make a half-way decent Honchkrow list.

 

[David's Confused Pokedad]

Absols disruption is the key to DWD. But what Professor Fish and Tego add to the thread have been most helpful. Good Luck to all and lets have duck for dinner this Holiday season.

 

[PokeMontoya]

Lets Get Dangerous!!!

 

[SPARTA]

Actually... Hurricane could be a pain for Honchkrow once it gets a catty out, Discarding one card from the hand is pretty poinless considering the deck can draw 7 cards per turn WITHOUT trainers. Murkrow has 60 hp, which is Breaking Tail Range, and shuffling in only 4 cards to kill the decks main attackers is hardly tough....

 

[Boofu]

Using any tactic to influence your opponent to "randomly" select a specific card from your hand is not cheating simply because if your opponent discards a mediocre card, it is not considered a misplay. The selection of a GOOD card is not a deliberate action of the chooser. It is desirable, but it is not deliberate, therefore it is not a "misplay."

You don't call unfortunate top decking a "misplay." So why would you do it for a randomly selected card?

 

[jkwarrior]

Good luck setting up cattys,gatrs,and magnetons.

 

[SPARTA]

^I only need one catty out to start setting up. Lets be honest, you aren't going to nail all my key cards all the time, and Hurricane plays ALOT of draw to help with its attacks. Once one catty is out, i can start setting up. Two? I should get a Magneton easy. And once I have him out? Its over, I could go aggro Magneton if I am having trouble getting out a Gatr. And once I get a Gatr out, he isn't going anywhere any time soon.

 

[jkwarrior]

This just in. Hurricane sets up easily against a deck that removes 1-4 cards from your hand per turn.

 

[Cyrus]

Policy for what? Richard said "You have a DRE, don't you?" Anthony showed it to him, and Rich dropped a wager. What's illeagle about that, Anthony voluntarily showed him a card from his hand.

Policy is policy, but eh, I guess one qualification for both of us is that it's heavily based on the judge's discretion.

Fact is, though, that Richard broke policy by using the most blatant form of gamesmanship there is. I'm reserving judgment, especially since neither side minded (Anthoy ), but looking at it from facts only, lil Richard should have been penalized in some way.

However, this is thrown entirely out the window based on match context: if this was just a joke near the end of the game, then have at it.



Also, Honchkrow gives Feraligatr so many troubles it's not even funny. In solo testing I've gone 6-0 vs my gatr with my honchkrow, and I don't think I've lost more than one or two games total of about twenty (my Krow vs other people's gatrs) versus non-me's.

You cite that Catty is the end-all solution, but also forget how brutal Cessation Crystal is against Gatr.dec. Trust me, it's a horrid matchup.

 

[drrty byl]

Good luck setting up cattys

Stage ones can be difficult to set up.. Unless of course you play that one card -- unique peppermint I believe it's called..

But good luck top-decking one of those when 1-4 cards are being discarded at the beginning of the game!

 

[Rai]

Stage ones can be difficult to set up.. Unless of course you play that one card -- unique peppermint I believe it's called..

But good luck top-decking one of those when 1-4 cards are being discarded at the beginning of the game!

Unique Peppermints? You mean Altoids? What in the world could....

...Altaria? You've gotta be kiddin' me.

In any case, I'm curious as to how decks that can deal consistent 60 damage have trouble against Honchkrow. The pokemon's rarely being one shotted. You one shot their basics. I suppose if you needed an intricate set up to deal 60 damage, that's one thing, but a pokemon and maybe 3 energy doesn't seem too problematic to me. If Darkwing Duck could shut off supporters, that'd be one thing, but it doesn't, so...

 

[SPARTA]

God the thought of Absol with Houndoom UF.... Why hasn't anyone said Sableye CG yet? Absol can't use his attack unless they retreat every turn. He has a nice cycling power to go through cards you don't need or want, and also works against Blissey and sorta works against Gallade.