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Ideas that PUI could consider for next year...

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Agreed that Chess clocks would be too expensive. I would definitely love to implement the 30 min + X turns system though. Gardy/Gallades biggest advantage in the current tournament scene is its ability to be tied when time is called, and use Bring Down, or be down 1 prize, scramble/flip all prizes, then Bring Down.

Regardless, something needs to be done about the time used per turn with Gardy/Gallade.

Draw... Thinks...
Bench... Thinks...
Evolve... Thinks...
Attach... Thinks...
Wager... tie... tie... win, draw 6
thinks...
Telepass... thinks
Telepass wager...
Wager... tie... tie..., lose, draw 3
thinks... Claydol... Thinks... put these 2 at bottom...
Draw up to 6
Thinks...
Retreat
Thinks...
Psychic cut for... thinks... 110
Flips 3 prizes
Thinks...
Takes prize #2
Ok, your turn!

Every single competitive player knows this list is not exaggerated, this is what literally happens turn 6-7 with EVERY gardy/gallade deck. 20 steps where you can take 30 seconds for each one (totaling 10 mins for the mathematically challenged), and easily not get called for stalling, because you're genuinely doing something. Also note that the fastest/smartest player in the world (me) can still easily take 6-7 mins for all these steps. It's stupid, vexing, and unfair for the people who don't play GG decks.
 
Prime "you feel" that attendance would go down ... but the argument could be easily reversed that the Origins fee and location are keeping folks away now. Those are folks you would never see in the current system. How can anyone know for sure?

That's true. A few people have said that entry fees at tournaments would drive off a lot of people that just play for fun, and I can see that applied to Origins and the $50-70 cost of a pass. That's a good point.

My counter thought on that is that the people that wouldn't want to spend the money on the pass wouldn't be traveling to tournaments in the first place. I know many casual pokemon players and most of them don't travel to Pokemon tournaments outside of my city. So they wouldn't go to Nationals, even if it were held in a convention center and only cost $10 to get into it.

So the group of the people that wouldn't want to spend the money probably wouldn't attend Nationals either way, if it were at Origins, or if it were at a convention center.

I think one reason why Pokemon Nationals stays at Origins is because it's just much easier for PUI to do it that way. Think about all the extra work PUI would have to do in order to hold an event (biggest in the nation, maybe in the world) at a convention center. They'd have to figure out how to feed everyone, figure out a good place surrounded by lodging, maybe work out some lodging deals with the local places, come up with a lot more events to fill in the empty gaps of time (if it stays a 3-4 day event - with professor cup, would seem likely), most likely have to hire more staff to work those events, need more prizes for the extra events...I dunno if PUI would even want to step into this kind of thing. Not when they have something easier to do like Origins. Origins provides the food, the location (which is very important), the extra activities between pokemon events, the lodging (well, that's part of the location), and pretty much everything else. All PUI has to worry about is setting up the league, side-events, prof. cup, and nationals and get staff to work those events. They don't have twenty other things to handle so they can work on making the things they do handle better.

I am sure that Nationals misses out of some players because they don't want to pay the Origins pass cost, but those players probably wouldn't be traveling (or flying) to any Nationals, Origins or not, because of the costs, in the first place.
 
1. Listen to Players:

I vote for an open forum with POP. Remember when MTM and DMTM commented regularly on the boards AND had the weekly chat forum?

2. More local events:

Reward players and storeowners for holding more local events (prizes, exponential professor points, etc.)

3. Nix Rankings:

Disagree. Consider them for invitations only. Trips are won at major events only.

4. Major Events:

Disagree. The Olympics only comes once every 4 years. More major events would make them less meaningful.

5. Judges:

Judging at Nats and Worlds is top-notch. I doubt local events will ever achieve that level of excellence. However, I don't feel there's a problem in "my neck of the woods" regarding judge quality.
 
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That's true. A few people have said that entry fees at tournaments would drive off a lot of people that just play for fun, and I can see that applied to Origins and the $50-70 cost of a pass. That's a good point.

My counter thought on that is that the people that wouldn't want to spend the money on the pass wouldn't be traveling to tournaments in the first place. I know many casual pokemon players and most of them don't travel to Pokemon tournaments outside of my city. So they wouldn't go to Nationals, even if it were held in a convention center and only cost $10 to get into it.

So the group of the people that wouldn't want to spend the money probably wouldn't attend Nationals either way, if it were at Origins, or if it were at a convention center.

I think one reason why Pokemon Nationals stays at Origins is because it's just much easier for PUI to do it that way. Think about all the extra work PUI would have to do in order to hold an event (biggest in the nation, maybe in the world) at a convention center. They'd have to figure out how to feed everyone, figure out a good place surrounded by lodging, maybe work out some lodging deals with the local places, come up with a lot more events to fill in the empty gaps of time (if it stays a 3-4 day event - with professor cup, would seem likely), most likely have to hire more staff to work those events, need more prizes for the extra events...I dunno if PUI would even want to step into this kind of thing. Not when they have something easier to do like Origins. Origins provides the food, the location (which is very important), the extra activities between pokemon events, the lodging (well, that's part of the location), and pretty much everything else. All PUI has to worry about is setting up the league, side-events, prof. cup, and nationals and get staff to work those events. They don't have twenty other things to handle so they can work on making the things they do handle better.

I am sure that Nationals misses out of some players because they don't want to pay the Origins pass cost, but those players probably wouldn't be traveling (or flying) to any Nationals, Origins or not, because of the costs, in the first place.

Then again, think of all the money that Origins collects from pokemon players. Does origins deserve it? Origins collects tens of thousands of dollars from pokemon players, who get very little back from their badges.

Those badges add up. Try carpooling with 5 people who all need badges. That's like 250-350 dollars right there, which is the cost of 4-5 day stay at any event. A badge costs the same as a night at a hotel, really... and when people go in groups they literally could have styaed for "free" without having to pay for badges.

I don't think I'd ever LARP, but I did look at the other games. Most are just lame.

If you guys wanna check out an AWESOME game, though, there's Fluxx. http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Origins/index.html
http://www.looneylabs.com/events/schedule/schedule.html?event=Origins2008
 
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To be honest - "We" up here in Canada, didn't do anything. It was a decision by members of POP (Pete DeShaw, and possibly others) who made the decision based on emails suggesting that it was unfair for Nationals to be held in Toronto every year. Were the emails correct? As far as I'm concerned, yes. Do I stand by Pete's (and possibly other's) decision? Yes, of course. Did they have to change the venue city? No. They had no obligation to do that, but they did, based with the knowledge that here in Canada there is no middle ground geographically when it comes to pokemon. There's either East or West. It IS only fair that both sides of the country's players get a chance to get the Nationals experience - especially so when you don't want one side to benefit purely due to the luck of their geography. In the US, pokemon is played in most of the states, so Origins is a slightly more centralized location than lets say New York, Dallas, Seattle, or LA. Moving their Nationals to other major centers would be a bit of a logistical nightmare. Plus, I'm sure Origins would probably go out of their way to accomodate POP, where other spots might not care to. Origins may cost more for the players, due to entry fees, but it's certainly a prime location for the event.

When I first when to Origins, it was for Origins and to meet up with over a dozen previously internet-only friends, not only to play in the (at the time, completely open) US Nationals. I've been pro-Origins this whole time in regards to US Nationals being there.



I don't like the idea of charging any non-master entrance fee, nor do I like the idea of having a fee for anything less than states. Regionals/nationals charging 5 dollars per master still rakes in a LOT of money... the kind of money that could do things like maybe pay for more venue time (allow for longer top cuts maybe, etc) more scholarship money, more promos/freebies for the juniors, etc.

5 dollars from a master at nationals who already paid 70 dollars for a badge and hundreds on travel/stay shouldn't be a problem.

Agreed. I spent close to $200 on the final 9 cards I needed for my Canadian Nationals deck in 2007 (darn you Eeveelution exes!), so another $5 to play in a 7 round + T16 tournament would have been no problem. It would be even less of a problem to pay $5 to play in a 9 round + T32 tournament.

Mystery Thing: Last year was my first year at nationals, and I won a state and got a free badge and the 300 dollar travel allowance. This year I'm still getting a free badge. I'm not complaining about buying a badge (since I'm not)- I'm just saying it's ridiculous to think that people would buy a badge but not a small entrance fee to the same event. Origins was cool, but worlds is just as if not even cooler because it's entirely pokemon themed. The fact that nats is held at origins is such a negligible plus to me that it really doesn't justify my possible spending money on a badge.

However, this year I plan to play in the fluxx tournaments at origins so I'll have another game to have fun with.

Then I just misinterpreted how you were saying what you said I guess, so my apologies.

5 dollars per master times 500 masters is 2500. That's an entire regional scholarship amount and just imagine how many more local, smaller, game-growing tournaments that could help support.

The people paying 5 dollars at these huge events in masters are already devoting LOTS of money- taking money from them really won't affect much, but when you consider how much extra money it could bring in to help the game,... it makes you wonder.

The OP budget may not have grown despite the game's growth, but that doesn't mean there aren't other ways to increase funds for tournaments/game growth.

The problem there is what happens with said money. There were 248 American CCs this year. If you were to funnel that all into smaller tournaments that are limited to one in each of those cities, each TO would get $10.08. That's not a huge amount - it would get you a venue for what, maybe an extra 20 minutes? Or dinner at McDonalds. Now, granted, if you were to charge the same at all the Regionals as well, that number would be somewhat larger, but still.

As for the OP budget, I would imagine that the only number than the higherups care much about is number of total packs sold, and good luck relating that to tournament numbers :(
 
Origins does collect a lot of money from Pokemon players. They collect a lot of money from everyone who goes there. Does Origins deserve it? Well, they provide other events to play in, but it's the choice of the person if they want to play in them or not. Does Origins deserve it? I guess so, only because they provide the service they are supposed to.

If Nationals was moved from Origins, what kind of money would PUI get from players? Players wouldn't pay over $50 to play there, and I don't feel there would be an entry fee of over $10 per person. $10 might be a lot if you multiply it by all the players that attend, but think about the extra chores PUI has to do. I don't think PUI would make any of the prizes better just because they might be getting in some extra money at another location. Think how much money they spend on stuff and I don't think the small amount of money (maybe $5000 at $10 a head) would go that far.

I would love to see a multi-day Pokemon extravaganza, where I can play in side events, and league, and Nationals, and all kinds of other fun Pokemon stuff for 3-5 days, but I don't see that happening under any system. Even Worlds is just 2 days long.
 
Origins does collect a lot of money from Pokemon players. They collect a lot of money from everyone who goes there. Does Origins deserve it? Well, they provide other events to play in, but it's the choice of the person if they want to play in them or not. Does Origins deserve it? I guess so, only because they provide the service they are supposed to.

If Nationals was moved from Origins, what kind of money would PUI get from players? Players wouldn't pay over $50 to play there, and I don't feel there would be an entry fee of over $10 per person. $10 might be a lot if you multiply it by all the players that attend, but think about the extra chores PUI has to do. I don't think PUI would make any of the prizes better just because they might be getting in some extra money at another location. Think how much money they spend on stuff and I don't think the small amount of money (maybe $5000 at $10 a head) would go that far.

I would love to see a multi-day Pokemon extravaganza, where I can play in side events, and league, and Nationals, and all kinds of other fun Pokemon stuff for 3-5 days, but I don't see that happening under any system. Even Worlds is just 2 days long.

Well, if every person who went to Origins instead paid their 50-70 dollars to PUI imagine what they could hold with that kind of cashflow... they COULD hold a pokemon event of that size- dedicated to only pokemon.

Instead the badge money goes to Origins, and pokemon players don't get any real benefit from it.

Why couldn't pokemon just combine events like PRA (poke rocks america), nationals, video game showdowns, etc. into one major event... nationals.

4-5 days of pokemon, where instead of paying 70 for an origins badge you pay 70 for a pokemon badge and get the pokemon weekend we go to nationals for anyways.
 
Also, hear! hear! for ryanvergel's suggestion, Masters pay. What Master doesn't have $5? What junior
does? What about it Jimmy? Step back from being a store guy and a pot-stirrer, hit-and-runner, what's
good for the game?

PLease elaborate on this a little further before I give you my real response to this reply. This is your second attempt at a swipe at me. Be careful cause I really like to poke back.

Last I checked, I posted this topic to help figure out whats good for the game.... It has always been my first priority.

Remember this... I AM a player FIRST!!! If you care to question that, I will be at Nationals to show you just what kind of player I am.

Jimmy
 
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Ideas that PUI could consider for next year...

How about selling merchandise at Nationals? like cards, t-shirts, whatever. There is no pokemon merchandise for sale. There are items for sale at Worlds, but not Nats. If someone attending Origins wants to play in the Pokemon National tourney, or play for league points, they must bring their own deck. Maybe we should have some theme decks for sale. Yes, I do know there are pre-release tourneys. They are fun and a way to get some cards. Just my suggestion. Thanks.
 
Agreed that Chess clocks would be too expensive. I would definitely love to implement the 30 min + X turns system though. Gardy/Gallades biggest advantage in the current tournament scene is its ability to be tied when time is called, and use Bring Down, or be down 1 prize, scramble/flip all prizes, then Bring Down.

Regardless, something needs to be done about the time used per turn with Gardy/Gallade.

Draw... Thinks...
Bench... Thinks...
Evolve... Thinks...
Attach... Thinks...
Wager... tie... tie... win, draw 6
thinks...
Telepass... thinks
Telepass wager...
Wager... tie... tie..., lose, draw 3
thinks... Claydol... Thinks... put these 2 at bottom...
Draw up to 6
Thinks...
Retreat
Thinks...
Psychic cut for... thinks... 110
Flips 3 prizes
Thinks...
Takes prize #2
Ok, your turn!

Every single competitive player knows this list is not exaggerated, this is what literally happens turn 6-7 with EVERY gardy/gallade deck. 20 steps where you can take 30 seconds for each one (totaling 10 mins for the mathematically challenged), and easily not get called for stalling, because you're genuinely doing something. Also note that the fastest/smartest player in the world (me) can still easily take 6-7 mins for all these steps. It's stupid, vexing, and unfair for the people who don't play GG decks.

Wholeheartedly agree here, but as for a solution I don't know what could be done without hindering the Gallade player's ability to take the fair amount of time per action per turn. This seems more like a problem with our current format that something that PUI should consider for next year.

A couple things that have me upset with this season, and the way things have developed in the past year or so, mostly pertaining to Battle Roads:

-As Alvis stated earlier, the layout of the tournament season. To me, it's so very irritating that so early in the season (Given the fewest cards to use all season after set rotations!) is when the MOST tournaments are held. The number of Battle Roads/Cities this year was fairly staggering, but they were so boring given the format! I even opted not to play in the first series of Battle Roads knowing they'd have a minimal impact on my rating either way.

-Prizes were such that I just felt it not worth my time or money to attend these events. And since Spring BR attendance LAST YEAR was so low, we're only getting THREE total in our area this year.

-I do not think that the addition of more Battle Roads is a fair trade-off for losing prizes in bigger tournaments - most players DO NOT attend Battle Roads.

-I also feel that City Championships were always sufficient for newer players in picking up the game in a competitive environment. In this regard, Battle Roads seem terribly redundant, especially seeing as how the prize structure between the two tournaments is terribly similar.

-The ratings structure as it stands now IS somewhat discriminatory; with gas prices being as they are now, I find that those who can afford it are that much more likely to attend and succeed at events. It's practically impossible for me to convince my friends who might not play competitively to come to an event just for the fun of it! I feel that this is one of the biggest tragedies of our current system. Since prizes at the "easier" events seem so meager, it isn't worth the time or money for some people to bother going.

-I have always felt that bigger events are much better at popularizing our game. I believe that an implementation of some other big event, (ie, a Stadium Challenge or Super Regional event such as Chad suggested) would be a great benefit for the game, and the tournament season as a true progression of difficulty. Tacking on a few measly BRs at the end of the season seems like such a waste!

Just a bit of input, would love to hear feedback from others on these thoughts.

-Absolution
 
Also, hear! hear! for ryanvergel's suggestion, Masters pay. What Master doesn't have $5? What junior does? What about it Jimmy? Step back from being a store guy and a pot-stirrer, hit-and-runner, what's good for the game?

Dude -

Not cool. Jimmy took no jabs at you. Apologize and get on with it.

On Topic.

I think that with the exception of a few comments here and there, this thread is keeping to the high ground.
 
in which age group is the growth in this game coming from?

how would the changes suggested affect that group? as opposed to the existing dedicated tourney-goers?

'mom
 
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Well, if every person who went to Origins instead paid their 50-70 dollars to PUI imagine what they could hold with that kind of cashflow... they COULD hold a pokemon event of that size- dedicated to only pokemon.

Instead the badge money goes to Origins, and pokemon players don't get any real benefit from it.

Why couldn't pokemon just combine events like PRA (poke rocks america), nationals, video game showdowns, etc. into one major event... nationals.

4-5 days of pokemon, where instead of paying 70 for an origins badge you pay 70 for a pokemon badge and get the pokemon weekend we go to nationals for anyways.

I don't know if that would be enough money.

500 people x $50 a head = $25,000. How much did the inflatable pokemon cost last year? $15,000. I don't see how PUI could hold a 4-5 days of Pokemon event if each person paid $50 to get into the event. I think we both underestimate how much money PUI spends to hold events like Nationals and Worlds.
 
What would PUI do instead of giving out Origins badges at states and regs.
Would it get replaced by other prizes, or could PUI put that massive savings towards other things for Nats.
Just a thought.
 
Okay, Mia told me that I came across as hostile, harsh and intolerant. It was not my intent, so I’m sorry about that. I have also apologized to Steve, and now I apologize to Jimmy. I didn’t mean to come across like that, but I can see how it is taken that way.

Now, in response to Jimmy:

First of all, Jimmy, my earlier post wasn’t directed entirely at you.

I thought you said something about struggling store owners, but what you actually said was something about “the struggles of store owners”. I understood your point, but still stand behind what I said about thinking outside the box. I’m sure you can come up with ways to fill in that lag time you speak of, and keep the players occupied and interested. What I don’t understand is how a store or storeowner would have a lot of lag time anyway, considering all the other events (non-Pokémon) going on. I mean, unlike most of the independent PTOs, store owners host a wide variety of games like Magic, Yugioh, Warhammer, etc. And, if the other games have busy calendars, I just don’t see how that would leave room for more Pokémon events. In fact, this is precisely one of my big beefs with the few stores around Houston. The other “big” games like Magic and Yugioh get first dibs on the calendar. Pokémon events get to choose from whatever dates are left. We’ve even had tournaments in stores that didn’t carry Pokémon product, because the storeowners didn’t want to start selling Pokémon. I think you (Jimmy) have a different perspective because you are a Pokémon player. Most store owners are not as passionate about the game as you are, so your point of view may not necessarily be in line with other storeowners.

Does it sound like a have a beef with some store owners? It should, because I do. Some stores (not all) make no effort to make their stores family friendly. Some stores carry a lot of material that may be considered offensive by some. The stores won’t go to any trouble at all for Pokemon. Even the restrooms at some of these places are just plain gross. Some stores are dirty and smelly. How do I convince moms and their families to return to the store for another event? Stores need to realize that Pokémon is a kid’s game, and that means they have to cater to mom and dad as well. This appears to be a tall order with some of these stores, who seem to prefer the older teens/young adult crowd.

Keep the free tournaments. The reasoning is simple. More people will play, if they don’t have to pay. Start charging and see attendance drop. What I referred to as being GREEDY are those who are complaining about the prizes. Some people will always want more – no matter what. And the ones that are saying they don’t mind paying to play are clearly those who think they might stand a chance at winning something. So, what does that mean? Those who know they don’t stand a chance won’t want to pay… and really, they shouldn’t have to. We want everyone to pay an entry fee, so that the few players who win can get more? Now, that’s crazy! Yes, I know that there are more than just a few players who win, but in the big scheme of things, it’s really just a very small number. There’s nothing wrong with the prizes. If people want to pay to win additional prizes, I think TOs can work that out themselves, right? It shouldn’t be an across the board PUI official thing.

We’re dealing with the same greediness right now, as players are asking why the prizes are so small for Battle Roads, and why aren’t there prizes for everyone like Regionals… and just all kinds of “we want more” messages.

Of course there’s a HUGE difference between Regionals and Battle Roads. I don’t think I said anything to the contrary. I was just pointing out that PUI listens, and that they gave us more events by adding another Battle Roads series after Regionals.

Speaking of Regionals, and seeing that we both agree that Regionals are BIG and important events, I don’t see the logic in “monthly Regionals” that you said Yugioh has. How can such a big event be held monthly? It just doesn’t make sense… Well, actually, I might see the logic in it now. The obvious thing here is that Yugioh’s “Regionals” are nothing more than just “monthly tournaments”. I suppose the intent could have been to fool players and organizers into thinking that they are participating in a BIG, prestigious event. “I know, let’s give our players monthly tournaments and let’s call them “Regionals” to make them sound more special”…. LOL..

I don’t really have a problem with the ratings and rankings. I don’t think it’s perfect. In fact, I believe it is flawed, but I don’t think it is unfair. I’m sure PUI is doing whatever it can to improve it. Although it does not affect me directly, it does affect Austin (my son), and if you asked him or Mia, they would tell you they don’t like the ratings system either. But, they aren’t complaining.

Last year, Austin won Regionals. Of course it would have been nice if he had won a trip + invite to Worlds, but that didn’t happen. Fortunately, he made it through the grinder. This year, he didn’t win Regionals, but he came in third. In fact this season, he had a really good and consistent showing all season, but he ran into some obstacles a couple of times, and those cost him some major points.. He’s not exactly sitting pretty in the rankings right now. It’s very possible that he won’t get an invite at all. Last year, after winning Regionals, he had lost enough points at Nationals to put him just under the rankings cutoff for the World invites. So of course, all this stuff about prizes and trips being awarded, and rating points, etc, affects me. Again, it’s not perfect, I’m just saying it’s fair. And knowing PUI, if they find way to improve it, they will. Still, I’m sure there’ll be lots of complaints that whatever PUI does will not be good enough for some.

The part about becoming a TO or doing more to help increase events was directed at those who constantly whine about not having more events to go to -- not at you. It’s obvious that part doesn’t apply to you. Why would I suggest that you become a TO when you already are?

Do you think that maybe, PUI sees the World Championship as an event were the Nationals winners from all over compete for the World Championships? It does make sense doesn’t it? Whether it’s what we would like or not, it makes a lot of sense.

I think we just got spoiled when the prizes were so much more, and it was so much easier to get into Worlds. But that sort of thing happens with a new program. PUI resources were allocated in such a way to place a greater importance in developing local (US) players first (which is why there was such an imbalance in the prize structure). When that was accomplished and as the POP program began to take shape in the US, more resources were directed to international OP. This resulted in the US players feeling like they had so much taken away from them. In reality, while some of the prizes were taken away, PUI is doing more for the players in the form of more local events.

Yes, I’m a simple man… with a simple mind. I just don’t understand why players can’t just enjoy this game for what it is.

And to the guy, who doesn’t want scholarships for prizes: Hey man, I’ll make you a promise right now. If you win a scholarship, come and look for me. I’ll gladly trade you boxes of cards for your scholarship.


See y'all at Nationals.
 
Team Cook:
The main reason MTG players seem to have first dibs on event places is
because they schedule it before pokemon events.
They let you know a good month and a half - 2 months before a set comes out/ and the dates.
I don't see pokemon dates until like 2 weeks or so before an event.
This is mainly POPs fault for not letting you know when the specific dates are going to be.

mtg vs pokemon
We also get a rare card with alternate artwork and the date on mtg promos.
Pokemon Promos (Pre release ones are uncommon)
sheesh we got Luxio twice XD. (would never happen like that in MTG)

MTG pre releases usually happen 1 month BEFORE pokemon pre releases anyway.


This is to everyone. I pay A lot of money to enter MTG events, all pokemon events are free (other then pre releases)
I have done bad and good in MTG drafts, if you do good you get packs/money if you don't you don't get any extra. (and for $24-$30 entry!) in pokemon you get the sleeves and 2 extra packs (the pro mo could be better for the $25)



I can't believe you guys are complaining about rankings? who cares anymore? really if x person gets an invite, it isn't a paid invite!
Pokemon people's rating restarts every year, ie fresh new ranking to do better.

In Magic ur rating does not reset season to season, making it hard if you have a high ranking (or maintaining a decent ranking)

the only thing flawed in the system is tie breakers and that is about it.
 
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What, you mean colleges and universities won't accept pokemon cards as cash? Tisk, tisk. Must be tough. Just kidding of course. My son is 19, and a professor too, but I don't think that means anything to them either!
 
I really hope they eliminate the ranking system because the only tournaments I attend only magmortar or gallade wins. I think this is really bad for rogue decks. Due to the ranking system you can't practise your rogues decks in a tournament which I sometimes do because I have no time for the league and can only play against my brother. And to face gallade or magmortar every day is boring and unoriginal.
 
you know even charging $5 to sr.s isn't to much to ask.A lot of other tcgs charge 5 dollars for there tournaments and their prize support is off the chain.
 
you know even charging $5 to sr.s isn't to much to ask.A lot of other tcgs charge 5 dollars for there tournaments and their prize support is off the chain.

I am against charging for tourneys. If PUI dose then attendance will drop and how will that help to grow the game. Yes, I understand that there was a time when PUI charged for events, after taking a year off from playing when my wife was pregnant we did have to each pay $5.00 to play in the 2004 Washington State Championship. But know the Genie is out of the bottle and not paying for tourneys is the norm. I do not think going back to charging for events would be a good decision for the health of the game.
 
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