Life without Claydol?

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by getjosh, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. getjosh

    getjosh New Member

    I would like to get some feedback regarding life without Claydol, should it go out in September. Or even, what the game was like before Claydol GE?

    I started playing Pokemon during the release of Majestic Dawn, so Claydol has always been a part of the game for me. My Gym leader, Mr. Raichu, put it like this; In order to be a successful Pokemon player, you must do what successful Pokemon players do - run Claydol.

    So in nearly every deck that I have built, I have had a 2-2 Baltoy - Claydol line. Currently I am toying with an Amphros - Manetric deck and I am trying to stay away from Poke-Powers. During the test games at home I always tend to struggle with the lack of the Claydol draw engine. (This was true with the Scizor deck I built.)

    So, I am looking for a system, or draw engine, to use that is not dependent on Claydol. I realize what an awesome card Claydol is, and that not much can compare to it, but any ideas, suggestions, or strategies sure would help.

  2. Bippa201

    Bippa201 New Member

    Life without Claydol?

    I will be so Happy

    Life without Uxie and Claydol?

    I'll be dancing around my house in happiness
  3. Renzo

    Renzo New Member

    Well... I've been fine without Claydol actually. And seeing how big of an impact Claydol has had on the game, it's a good reason to believe that POP will rotate it out so as to keep the strategy making alive.
  4. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    Better get your Uxie now. My guess is after Claydol is rotated out, Uxie will be a $15 card, and Uxie lv.X a $30 card. Talk about expensive!
  5. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 New Member

    I have to admit. I haven't built a list with claydol since platinum came out with the exeption of a couple lists I've changed from before like terra. I'd be purfectly fine. I've just notice claydol becoming more of a target then a helper.

    For example: Durring a cities when I was playing regi, I noticed so many decks were reliant on claydol I mean I would be losing one turn but then I lock them with mesprit for a couple of turns and then I just kill claydol and they just draw nothing and I basically win. So many decks have not supporter draw anymore and just play claydol. In the next set there is going ot be a supporter that is basically calydol and with that one card, a tech uxie and a consistent trainer engien claydol is dead.

    So in the end, I'd love to see claydol. Uxie on the otherhand would be enoying.

    SPARTA New Member

    We will most likely lose Claydol, but we get Staraptor Lv X C and we will still have Uxie.
    We also will FINALLY be getting a good multi use supporter in the form of Volkner (or however you spell the 8th gym leader's name).
    While I love Claydol, it is a bit annoying needed to include him in 9/10 of my deck for it to be consistent, so I will not be overly sad to see him go.
  7. Xuii2-the-cleric

    Xuii2-the-cleric New Member

    first double rainbow energy that every1 relied on now claydol curse u pop!!!!!!!!!!!!

    SPARTA New Member

    We always have a card 90% of the format relies on, and we will next format as well.
    And the format after that, and the one after that....
  9. Assassin_Thief

    Assassin_Thief New Member

    I would not care either way. I have never run Claydol an never plan to. When he is gone I have my Uxie.
  10. yoyofsho16

    yoyofsho16 New Member

    What is so wrong with these cards? Uxie and Claydol turn the game into more strategy than randomness. The game is a lot more skill than ever before. Games used to rely a lot more on what you drew into last season before Claydol was released, and the season before that.
  11. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    As long as we don't get dumped with nothing like when the Holon Engine was rotated, everything should be fine.
  12. octillery49

    octillery49 New Member

    What does Staraptor C X do?
  13. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    I guess some people love to rely on top decking, and love doing badly at events.
  14. SPARTA

    SPARTA New Member

    Actually I think some people just love whining and living in the world of "make believe", where they can ignore common sense and established fact about decks in a format and pretend they will do well at anything larger than a City Championship.
  15. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    Until the next draw card/Pokemon comes along :lol:

    Might wanna revise that, Uxie is already over $15, and the Lv X ironically can be got for about as much.

    FLCLFANMAN New Member

    Uxie and Claydol may introduce some strategy, but they shouldn't be ABSOLUTELY necessary to compete. You can definitely make a competitve deck w/o some broken draw staple (seriously, draw six each turn? My MTG friends couldn't believe it)

    Unfortunately the way its going, we'll keep getting insanely broken draw staples to keep us going. After Claydol is Uxie. After Uxie is Snorlax lvlx (if we get it) and so and so.
  17. ShadowGuard

    ShadowGuard <a href="

    Why do you all think that Claydol will be gone for sure?
    There are 7 DP sets, and if they want to come to PT-one, they'll have to rotate only 3 sets one season. As long as Stormfront is out there, Unown G will have to stay, otherwise some cards would get extremely broken (Dusknoir, Gengar, Machamp). So GE-on is the most likely format for next season imho.

    btw, there are lots of competitive decks that don't run Claydol und rely on Uxie. At least half of the top cut decks at States in Leiden didn't have Claydol.
  18. koolkidkaz

    koolkidkaz New Member

    id like to have furret SW reprinted after claydol leaves. great free searching attack, but not too powerful.
  19. Ghetto Overlord

    Ghetto Overlord New Member

    search deck for supporter and add to your hand or something like that
  20. SPARTA

    SPARTA New Member

    4 sets is the most likely amount, not the amount set in stone. They release 4 sets, they remove 4 sets, it is the one that makes the most sense, not the one they are guaranteed to rotate, though they have rotated things in the past who saw to much play, such as rotating out the Holon Engine, and they have varies the amount of sets rotated in the past and balanced it the next year.

    That's nice, I see 2-3 decks in the previous format who were remotely good without Claydol, AMU, Scizor, and one could argue Gigas didn't need it. Outside of that, I see no deck in the previous format that would not work better with Claydol in it than without. Arguing that you saw few Claydol in ONE CITY is hardly a remotely decent argument.

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