Nationals deck

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  1. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    Pokemon: 23
    4-2-2-3-1 Empoleon
    1-2 Omastar
    2-2 Cresselia Lv. X
    2-2 Claydol

    Trainers: 9
    3 Rare Candy
    2 Helix Fossil
    1 Premier Ball
    1 Night Maintenance
    2 Warp Point

    Supporters: 12
    3 Roseanne's Research
    4 Celio Network
    3 Wager
    2 Steven's Advice

    Energy:
    4 Call Energy
    3 Scramble Energy
    1 Double Rainbow Energy
    8 Water Energy

    Strategy:
    Start spreading a lot with Empoleon and have Cresselia help with that. Then devolve with Omastar and Claydol to help with consistency.
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2008
  2. zthunderz2

    zthunderz2 New Member

    what is there a 5th stage in your Empoleon line?
    I think you should take out the premier ball for another night maintenance
     
  3. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    there is no fifth stage, it's the LV.X. I have a 2-2 Prinplup.
     
  4. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    The prinplup should be dp.. Its the best dmg spreader.. I dont like cressilia in here, thats just me.. And you need to find away to add another rare candy, cause there good for late game and omastar... And another night maintenance.
     
  5. meganium45

    meganium45 Active Member

    Shall assume the 3/1 Empoleon is 3 MD/1 DP, or is it 3MD/1 LVL X?

    Vince
     
  6. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    I like it Chris, I was using 2-2 Cressilia in a Few of my Empo decks, I would Try to run AT Least 3-4 Warp Points to get those Cressy Xs on the bench for FMD!
     
  7. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    The Lv. X Empoleon.
     
  8. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    I really feel a 2-2-2 line of Omastar is needed. You can't always rely on the rare candy, and I've had some many times where I wanted to slowly build the Omastar late game and the 1 Omanyte was prized or in the discard. Energy evolution is awesome and I feel it should be abused.

    oh, and Kudos on posting your list for Nationals before nationals.
     
  9. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    My Empoleon line:

    x3 Piplup MD 60HP
    x1 Piplup MD 50HP
    x2 Prinplup DP
    x2 Empoleon MD
    x1 Empoleon DP
    x1 Empoleon Lv.X DP
     
  10. Brawler

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    No.
    x4 Piplup MD 50HP(Spread)
     
  11. BANGINBOX

    BANGINBOX New Member

    Dont kid yourself Prime. This is NOT his list. Nice try. However since I run a similar deck. I will point out some things I found.

    No need for 4 prinplup....
    Drop 1 for another rare candy.

    also,

    Why ony 2 fossils, 1 omanyte, and 2 omastar? seems like its a little redundant. You may want to look at that area for a better lineup. I personally am trying 1-1-1 and more warp points for disruption.

    Nice overall,

    I highly doubt you will play this.

    Jimmy
     
  12. yoyofsho16

    yoyofsho16 New Member

    Why do you say that, Jimmy? It says "for Nationals", so you'd think he is running it. Not everything's gotta be a secret! :thumb:
     
  13. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    i ran a pretty similar list to this one these first BRs. I did notice that I had SLIGHT problems gettting out Empoleons. So now I'll try 4 candy/3 Prinplup.

    The heavy Omastar is so you can pull it twice in a game, which was done with high frecuency with my other Empoleon variant.
     
  14. Rambo1000

    Rambo1000 New Member

    ive been using this deck as well. 2-1-2 omastar and 4-2-4 empo is fine.
     
  15. LILNINO

    LILNINO New Member

    hey chris was this the deck you played against me at the niles BR?..i was the guy with the ape deck you faced fourth round.
     
  16. Ultima

    Ultima New Member

    Would it not make sense to play some Psychic or Multi enerrgy so that Cresselia can attack if need be? I've just been playtesting with this (I needed an Empoleon build to test against) and it seemed to slip up there quite often.
     
  17. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    that was another list i was trying out. but both are very similar lists.

    To Ultima in order to attack with the Cresselia Lv X you would have to have some form of energy acceleration like an energy switch or something and then Castform it. It would take to long to simply power it up turn by turn. Adding Psychics or Multis would just get in the way of Waters and Call Energy.
     
  18. mewlover777

    mewlover777 New Member

    Looks like your having trouble with the rules >.< 6 empoleons or am I misreading?
     
  19. Abyss

    Abyss New Member

    Your bad

    Anyways fit in energy for Cresselia drop 2 of the Prinplup play 4 candy 2 night maintenance. You really could drop the Priemer Ball is it that important?
     
  20. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    actually, heck no to the spread one. The DP piplup is still the best one. It helped me win a game against Infernape, which is no autowin.
     
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