Need clarification on Mirror Move attack

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  1. White Gryphon

    White Gryphon New Member

    Mirror Move attacks with whatever is the final result of an attack used on the pokemon that is attacking with Mirror Move this turn.

    So the final attack... is everything that occurred in the attack on the pokemon (ex. Spearow), before effects on Spearow are brought into consideration?

    Example: My Active Pokemon is a Jungle Spearow with a Focus Band attached. The Defending Pokemon is a Base Electabuzz. The Electabuzz attacks Spearow with Thunderpunch, which lands heads, thus doing 40 damage. Spearow is weak to Lightning, so the damage is brought up to 80. THEN Focus Band is activated, heads is flipped, and Spearow survives with 10 HP remaining.

    Can Spearow attack with Mirror Move and
    1) do 80 damage back to Electabuzz
    2) do 40 for the original damage before Spearow's Weakness was added in
    3) do 40 because that was the amount of damage Spearow eventually took from the attack, after getting heads on Focus Band?

    I'm confruuzed. :nonono:
     
  2. PokePop

    PokePop Administrator

    Q. If your Pokémon gets heads on Focus Band, how would you calculate Damage done by a subsequent Mirror Move Attack? Total Damage by Opponent's Attack or amount of Damage counters placed?
    A. When using Mirror Move the "Final Result of an attack" is what is done to a Pokemon BEFORE it is Knocked Out. If the Defending Pokemon has a Weakness or Resistance this is calculated BEFORE naming the final result of the attack. Focus Band takes place OUTSIDE of the normal timing sequence of attack resolution and has no effect on this definition of the Final result. It is a replacement effect that takes place before a Pokemon is Knocked out. If Pidgeotto has a Focus Band attached to it, the Final Result of an attack against it does NOT count anything that Focus Band may or may not do. Meaning if an attack against Pidgeotto does 100 damage and a Focus Band triggers successfully reducing Pidgeotto's remaining HP to 10, the Final result of the attack against this Pokemon is 100 damage, NOT reducing the Defending Pokemon to 10 hp. So if Pidgeotto take 50 damage from a Lightning Pokemon, this is doubled due to its Weakness and the Final Result is 100 damage, regardless of whether Focus Band saves Pidgeotto from being Knocked out or not. The Focus Band alters the final outcome of what happens to Pidgeotto it does NOT alter the Final result of the attack. If the attack also has a special condition, you would do that back as well (like poison). (Feb 7, 2002 WotC Chat, Q300 & Q302; Feb 14, 2002 WotC Chat, Q12 & Q18 & Q39)
     
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