Plasma Storm cards

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by battleboy, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. battleboy

    battleboy New Member

    Ok so i was looking at some of the new spiral force/ thunder nuckle cards on pokebeach and i wanted to discuss them.

    Jolteon - Lightning - HP90
    Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee

    [C] Pin Missile: 20x damage. Flip 4 coins. This attack does 20 damage times the number of heads.
    [L][C] Elec Difuse: 40 damage. If the Defending Pokemon is a Pokemon-EX, during your opponent's next turn, that Pokemon can't attack.

    Weakness: Fighting (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1

    Flareon - Fire - HP100
    Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee

    [C][C] Vengeance: 20+ damage. Does 10 more damage for each Pokemon in your discard pile.
    [R][C][C] Flare Blitz: 90 damage. This Pokemon does 10 damage to itself.

    Weakness: Water (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 2

    Vaporeon - Water - HP110
    Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee

    [C] Cure Rain: Heal 30 damage from each of your Pokemon.
    [W][C] Cold Break: 30+ damage. If the Defending Pokemon is a Pokemon-EX, this attack does 50 more damage.

    Weakness: Grass (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 2

    Espeon - Psychic - HP90
    Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee

    [C] Psycho Alert: 20 damage. Draw cards until you have 6 cards in your hand.
    [P] Shadow Ball: Does 40 damage to one of your opponent's Pokemon (don't apply Weakness or Resistance.)

    Weakness: Psychic (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1

    Umbreon - Darkness - HP100
    Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee

    Ability: Dark Zone
    All of your Team Plasma Pokemon have +20 HP.

    [D][C][C] Darkness Fang: 70 damage.

    Weakness: Fighting (x2)
    Resistance: Psychic (-20)
    Retreat: 1

    Glaceon - Water - HP90
    Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee

    Ability: Freeze Zone
    All of your Team Plasma Pokemon require two less Energy to retreat.

    [W][C][C] Icy Wind: 60 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Asleep.

    Weakness: Metal (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 2

    Leafeon - Grass - HP100
    Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee

    [C] Energy Flush (?): 20x damage. This attack does 20 damage for each Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.
    [G][C][C]: Leaf Blade: 60+ damage. Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 20 more damage.

    Weakness: Fire (x2)
    Resistance: Water (-20)
    Retreat: 2

    Eevee - Colorless - HP60
    Basic Pokemon

    [C] Signs of Evolution: Search your deck for up to 3 cards that evolve from Eevee, show them to your opponent, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
    [C][C][C] Bite: 30 damage.

    Weakness: Fighting (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1

    Deoxys-EX - Psychic - HP170
    Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)

    Ability: Power Connect
    All of your Team Plasma Pokemon (excluding Deoxys-EX) do 10 more damage to Defending Pokemon.

    [P][C] Spiral Force: 30+ damage. If this Pokemon has a Plasma Energy attached to it, this attack does 30 more damage for each Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.

    Weakness: Psychic (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 2

    Thundurus-EX - Lightning - HP170
    Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)

    [L] Thunder Knuckle: 30 damage. Attach an Energy card from your discard pile to one of your Benched Team Plasma Pokemon.
    [L][L][C][C] Thunder Out: 90 damage. If this Pokemon has a Plasma Energy attached to it, discard an Energy card attached to the Defending Pokemon.

    Weakness: Fighting (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 1

    I was hoping for a better thundarus EX, it's first attack is ok if you are using it in a plasma deck. second attack is bad only 90 damage for 4 energy and you have to have a plasma energy attached to it. Deoxys EX looks like a fun card because it has the posability to be a great mewtwo EX counter and it has the bonus effect of adding 10 damage to your plasma pokemon's attacks to the active. out of eevee's evolutions glacion and umbrion are my faves because of their abilitys. if anyone sees a possibility for thundarus EX to be a good card please tell me why because i would like to use it.
  2. baby mario

    baby mario Front Page Article Editor<br><a href="http://pokeg

    Those cards are not from Plasma Storm (as far as we know). They are from the next Japanese set, Spiral Force/Thunder Knuckle.
  3. battleboy

    battleboy New Member

    "face palm" oops changing that right now.
  4. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    I do like the vaporeon. The first one to have a grass weakness. Seems like a good meta choice.
  5. Tash

    Tash New Member

    Jolteon, I assume, was made to put Lugia EX into a situation where he needs to discard special energy cards to retreat.

    Flareon can OHKO Cobalion EX. It also gets Flare Blitz, despite the unwritten rule that Flareon can't get it.

    vaperon seems to have been created specifically for killing Ho-oh EX (and maybe victini). Is he really popular enough to need this?

    What the heck's the point of Espeon?

    Umbreon puts the others out of OHKO range.

    Glaceon is retreat aid, which is nice.

    Leafeon exists specifically to punish Keldeo for existing.

    In summary, they REALLY want us to build a 6 Corners-style deck around these. Except Espeon. They could have come up with something far better for him.
  6. battleboy

    battleboy New Member

    Thanks for the advice. I was thinking about having Deoxys, Umbrion, and Glacion in a deck together with Plasma Frigate. what do you think?
  7. C Bruneli

    C Bruneli New Member

    Let the Plasma Toolbox theorymon begin!
  8. AyameHikaru

    AyameHikaru New Member

    Snipe. If you've got Vileplume out, Jolteon's doing 160 to Tornadus or Lugia, and Espeon can finish them off on the bench (so you don't waste a Catcher). Hand refresh for sticky situations, I guess. I do wish they hadn't said not to apply Weakness, but you can't have everything, right?
  9. JandPDS

    JandPDS New Member

    If your translation is correct then Thundrus EX will be necessary to get Plasma energy out of the discard pile for Lugia EX to reuse.
  10. battleboy

    battleboy New Member

    Now that you mention it it never said anything about basic energy... I will be using this card with lugia Ex when it comes out.
  11. ashinto

    ashinto New Member

    You can use recycle to grab the plasma energies...

    In all honesty I'm just flat out dissapointed. I thought that they would make good eeveelutions and these cards are just plain horrible. I see only Umbreon seeing play as a tech for plasma decks. I'm just hoping that Lugia EX doesn't turn into the only viable plasma deck because it seems to have so much promise. At least the engine looks strong.
  12. Deoxysmatter

    Deoxysmatter New Member

    Forget relying on the unreliable Recycle, just use Shadow triad Supporter and grab your Plasma Energy back. It's easily searchable by Metagross, then you can just go PLASMAAAAAAAAAAAAA! and take 2-3 prizes with Lugia (I still think the best thing about him is the ability to take cheap prizes)
  13. Kayle

    Kayle New Member

    lol shadow triad for gold potion/scramble switch what uuuup
  14. Rockendorf

    Rockendorf New Member

    shadow triad is only for plasma cards though right?
  15. PMysterious

    PMysterious New Member

    Right. So, no getting Ace Specs for you Kayle. Good try though. ;)
  16. Kayle

    Kayle New Member

    You can plasma badge a trainer, right?

    But yeah, thanks for the correction! I need to keep the cards straight in my head better!
  17. PMysterious

    PMysterious New Member

    Nope. You can only use Plasma Badge on Pokemon. It would make no sense to do it on a Trainer because they don't stay on the field.
  18. Nintendan

    Nintendan New Member

    I think 1 or 2 Deoxys EX should be included in a Vileplume/Plasma Eeveelutions deck.
    It gives most 40 damage attacks that extra 10 damage to push out OHKOs, such as Espeon OHKOing a Mewtwo EX for example.

    Definitely going to look a lot more into these cards and a Vileplume toolbox when they come around in our May(ish) set.
  19. Otaku

    Otaku Active Member

    Will it?

    Lugia EX needs to discard one Plasma Energy when it attacks. If it is used carefully, its only attacking something it can KO, and players will be cautious about leaving Plasma Energy in play between turns. Plus, the "something it OHKOs" will generally be Pokémon EX if they present themselves. This means the four Plasma Energy allowed will often be sufficient.

    Shadow Triad covers you when your opponent is fortunate and you don't have a full four available.
  20. LibertyFigter

    LibertyFigter New Member

    He was making a sarcastic joke at his own expense, in light of his former mistake : ).

    Oh, and I'm extremely excited for that Umbreon! 20 HP makes such a huge difference in this format... And presumably the Plasma format as well.
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2012

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