Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Qualifications on Professor Redemption

Oh, for sure, there are opportunities out there, no doubt about that. Pokemon is growing again, and there'll always be opportunities for those who show a willing attitude. I think the point is that if you seem to be up against a brick wall trying your hardest to get those opportunities, and nothing seems to be appearing, try another tack, be patient, and see how it works for you.
 
i got some good news...
last sunday, my league owner told me that i can now be the new league leader, and i accepted, meaning i would recieve 15 credits for every season reported on time...however, the night before i found out i was gym leader, i asked if i could judge a city championship tournament so i could earn professor points. well, i get an e-mail back, and i tell her that i have decided to play in the city tournament, because i want to be what i fought for. if i hogged the judgework for the city champs and did league work, i would hog the prof. points. i told her to get someone who has never judged before to get a chance, so i recommended my friend. however, she turned him down, and got a different person who judges all the time, and didn't give any reason at all why she wouldn't let my friend judge. if you ask me, thats slightly unfair...oh...and i didn't win in the tournament...oh well...
 
You know, I'd have done the exact SAME THING in the TO's situation...and it would be a LONG time before I called on you to judge in another of my events were I that TO/PTO.

"Unfair"? YOU contacted that TO volunteering to judge, which the TO agreed to...then with less than a WEEK before the event, you changed your mind and left that TO short one judge for their event!

I'm sorry, that is NOT professional...'not wanting to hog the prof points' is a WEAK reason IMHO to go back on your agreement to judge, especially since you showed up to PLAY in that event. That statement alone speaks volumes for your motivation to judge: it's the POINTS.

Why SHOULD the TO take your word for the other person you recommended? By leaving the TO without a judge with less than a week to find a new one, OF COURSE that TO is going to go with a judge who has ALREADY shown themselves to be a person of their word and who they KNOW will work for them when they say they will. They don't know this other person from anyone, and they're being recommended by someone who left them in the lurch...sorry, I'm going with the judge I already know, thank you very much...

JMHO,
'mom :nonono:
 
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Amen to that Mom. Ben, you need to make your mind up. Judge or Play.

I was put in the same situation, but reversed. I volunteered to help at a major convention last summer and did not hear back from the organizer until the week of. After I purchased my badges. After I worked on decks and playtested. After all of the events I preregistered for. It leaves a very unprofessional mark on my experience with that TO, and I will probably never work underneath that person.

To decline to judge after posting all of this nonsense about fair and equal rights for new Professors/Judges really shows the true character and why you REALLY wanted a position. I would agree with Mom, I would never ask for your services again.
-Phil
 
I usually don't chime in to say "I agree", because it's spamming, but sadly, I do agree with 'Mom and Phil. Just think of the name you are giving yourself. Steadiness, sturdiness, these too are included in what makes a good judge. If you are only into pokemon for what you can get out of it, sooner or later nothing will be enough for you. I hate to say this, but I believe you just made my point I said earlier about some teens not really being ready to take on the responsibility. You may or may not actually be a teen, but to others you are acting in that manner.
 
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Amen to that Mom. Ben, you need to make your mind up. Judge or Play.

Or, Judge and Play, but not at the same time and not changing at the last moment. You've got to like judging as much (or more) as you like playing.


To be a judge you need: First, knowledge, next temperment, then experience.

So first, take the test & pass. Talk rulings with judges and your fellow players. Listen to other people's point of view, don't just express your own. In the Hebrew, the word teacher also translates to superlearner. A good thing to keep in mind for the beginning judge.

Next, watch what a judge does during the tourney. Not just what they rule and their official functions, but the kind of stuff P_A was sharing -- how do they relate to people, what makes you respect them?

Then, hook on as assistant judge. No points and whatever your TO gives as compensation (maybe just experience).

If people think you're knowledgable, reliable and can handle yourself under pressure you WILL get picked eventually. Again, you have to like JUDGING not just the rewards. [Some guys think its an easier way to the prizes -- it is actually more subtle and difficult].


Personally, I'm looking for younger talent that wants to get experience. But, I'm looking for someone who knows their stuff, can work with peers, older and younger people, and _loves_ judging.
 
This is probably the last thing that the young ones wants to hear since they already get this talk from other adults around them but it all comes down to maturity. And mind you, maturity has many aspects to it.

First off, 'matured' adults who participate in OP of any game or a similar situation such as volunteering for a non-profit organization usually do not expect, wait or in any way parade their good deeds. It is an act that is done out of that person's good nature. There are parents who got started in all of this just because they wanted to be a more active participant in their child's life. If they like Pokemon, why not join them? There are also those who just enjoys the company of children. These are the same reasons why we have the Big Brother program, scout leaders and such. I am not saying that these people are saints. All I'm saying is that people do these type of things out of good will not because they get some reward. If the next thing that you do right after helping out is to figure out what your reward is or how to get any, maybe you're not as matured as you may think so. As an example, during the transition time of Pokemon from WotC to Nintendo, I ran tournaments & kept an unofficial league going without any support or reward from any company. No League Kits, no prize-support, no Professor Reward program, no nothing. And I did this the whole time thinking that we will never have an official league ever due to the fact that no store in the area was willing to sign-up for one. Stores were all into YuGiOh at the time. I bet that many Gym Leaders were in the same situation and did the same thing. We were never rewarded for all of that work and we never will be. But who cares? I just did it so that the players in the area will still have somewhere to go during the weekends to play the game that we all like. Not for rewards.

Another reason why maturity comes into play is because of the level of responsibilities involved. OP such as tournaments or even your local league may seems such easy things to handle from a certain perspective but there's more to it than what you see. There are specific reasons why certain age limits are in place for specific programs. One of the main reason is the target age of the players for this game. Being a League Owner/Leader doesn't mean that you're just responsible for stamping badge books, keeping track of points and handing out goodies. There are also safety isssues involved. A player may be a 6 ft. giant with a beard but if he's 17, he is still a minor. And if anything happens to him while he's in your League, you get one guess on who will be considered as the one responsible for his safety at the time. This is the same reason why Leagues are suppose to be held in specific location and not in your basement. Yes, parents do leave their kids while playing in a League thinking that their children will be safe. It may not be the most ideal situation but it is a common practice among parents. Are any of you 15-16-17 year olds willing to take responsibility for all of your players' safety? Maybe some of you will say yes, but then again, did your parents/guardians say that you may do so?

The same thing may be said about judging. When you judge, you're not just a judge. Your responsibility doesn't end at the playing area where you tell someone to turn their card upside-down to show a confused Pokemon. You are also there to help the TO run an orderly and safe event.

Don't assume that a TO uses the same individuals as judges because of petty reasons. There are TOs who keeps the same staff because those individuals have shown initiative and proven that they are responsible, qualified people. The fact that someone will assume that a TO uses a certain person to judge just because they're buddies only shows that individual's immaturity.

At some point, I was just a player like everyone else and when I go to events I always think of how I can be one of those people running the show instead of just being a player. But I had no idea how those people ended up doing what they do. Keep in mind that at the time, I didn't have any idea what kind of rewards those people get for doing what they do or if they even get anything at all. When our previous Gym Leader left the league, he asked me to take over. Afterwards, I also signed-up as a TO and became a Prof. I just kept on running the league and local tournaments and learning as much as I can about rules and procedures and such. When a judge left the game, he suggested to the PTO that he judges for that I replace him as a judge for her events, which she did. At the time, I have never judged in a Premiere event. I just kept on playing and doing what I do and these people gave me the oportunity to do more.

The same thing can happen to you guys. Just be patient. Just watch and learn. Read all the materials that are available to you. Keep up with the rules. You don't need to be a judge to show a TO your good traits. If you are mature enough, they will see it and they will want you in their team. In any case, the point/rewards system shouldn't be a factor for your actions. Just remember when you were just a mere player and you told yourself that you would give anything to be a gym leader or a judge. You were even willing to do it for free.:)
 
Both excellent posts, Bulbasnore, and MP Khym. Can I quote you for an article I'm writing for prospective professor/judges for my league?
 
i'm sorry about this whole thread. i do wish to say that i am in no way only after the points. if i was like that, then i wouldn't be judging a tournament at dreamation convention in east brunswick NJ for absolutly nothing at all. i'll agree, that it was unprofessional for me to give up judging a week before the event. however, understand that i gave it up for a friend (where i now learn of his record with POP, which is why he couldn't judge, so it isn't the TO's fault at all). anyway, i'm not doing the league for the points at all. i'm doing it because i know the rulings before anyone else there, and the kids like me and look up to me. also, i am a likeable person. so don't call me greedy, because i am far from that. anyway, i think this thread needs to be locked. thanks for all your comments everyone. hopefully, i will become a better professor.
 
At least you showed interest in others, by wanting to help others have the same advantages as you (by recommending a friend.) There will be more and more situations where you can become a better professor, league leader, and yes, even a better judge. Taking advantage of all these avenues will lead to greater responsibility in the future, and to greater rewards as well. Good luck to you, in all your endeavors.
 
Benlugia, I don't know you personally, so I won't jump on the bandwagon to critique your actions.

The decision to play or judge is a critical decision for those in your position. I suspect that the ones who are criticizing you the most on this thread seldom play in tournaments. They're life-long judges who can't really understand the conflict you face. I'm guessing that you still LOVE to play very much, regardless of your successes or failures. At this time in your life, your desire to play probably exceeds your desire to judge. Given the choice, I suspect you'd play. For people like PokeMom, GLPhil, and others, I suspect they'd judge.

Regarding a desire for compensation comparitive to adult professors, thats a good desire. I suspect as you become better known in your area as a judge and advocate, compensation will come.

Your decision to change your mind at the last minute, although disappointing, is understandable. However, as has been said, commitment is an important aspect of judging and helping. Show that you are committed to judging and helping, then the oppurtunities (and compensation) will follow.

Good luck.
 
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I love the competition but judging is great too its hard work watching the 10- with all the misplays and questions its serious work makes it easier to judge the older players I better win this week so I wont be sour bout workin next week
 
Also having been the TO and a Judge at a premier event, and whether or not you get product for your services or not, let me tell you it IS hard work and generally not worth the payment you are given. If you aren't doing it for the children (and Adults), I'd say don't do it.

If asked to judge, I don't give it a second thought. If not, I still admire the hard work that the PTO, or TOs, the Head Judge, other Judges, and all of the volunteers it takes to put on a large or Premier event. All of them work hard to make YOUR tournament run smooth and with as little controversy as possible.
Master Professor Birch is one of the best at putting good people around him to help make his events go so well.
So hats off to those that volunteer, but once you commit, you must not renege on your promise. And as said earlier, kudos to all of those who participate. I'm one of those who truly appreciate those that put on "The Show." It IS hard work.
 
i now understand. when i am asked to judge from now on (as long as it's in my area...i mean...heck...i'm not gonna fly out to california to judge a tournament...i live in NJ for cryin out loud...), i will accept. regardless if i am getting anything or not. i will accept.
 
To all those who are thinking about becoming more of a judge than a player, you need to think long and hard before you make the commitment. First off, get to know your TO(s). MP Birch is a great guy, so he is one who you know will take care of you if you put the work in. Some TO's arn't like that. If that bothers you, then play, and you can ask "When are we gonna start the next round?" and in a draft "I need 13 water energy and 4 darkness!" as much as you want :) But you guys need to know that Judging is often times (in fact, the vast majority of the time) a LOT of work with little reward. Like I said, Birch takes care of his people, and we always have a box to split when we're through. Now, for the work we do at these tournaments, we really should get a box per judge, but since POP stopped providing product support and came up with this somewhat cheesey Point Program thing, we'd be getting next to nothing. But Birch gives us basically out of his wallet when he doesn't have to, and I have so much respect for that that I keep quiet and continue to work, and will continue to work even if he should have to stop giving us what he can. And for the record, I agree that new professors need a chance, if nothing else then to give the constant Judges a breather :)

Before I get flammed on this, let me explain my point of veiw. The average CC or like event runs aproximatly 8 hours. About 30 min. of that we get for lunch, so let's just say that it takes 7 hours. Let's say you are at a job making about 10 dollars an hour, which is a decent job at a bookstore or something. So you work 7 hours, and boom, you make 70 bucks. After tax, it's a bit less, but it's still a bit of money. So when all POP offers up is a few points that, when saved up, can buy you a few packs or a couple of single cards, I say you're not getting much for your time. Problem is, if the experienced guys complain, they say "Well, screw that guy, he'll quit and an eager new professor will take it up for a year or two, then he'll realize he's getting screwed and move on, but then there will be some one else, and so on." It's classic corprate operation. And I know, "Business is business." but I sure feel shafted sometimes by all of this, and then they turn around and say "We care about our Professors" and no, I don't mean Scwimmer or Liesik or those guys, I have a high opinion of them. It's the suits, like it was at wizards, and they arn't willing to sacrifce a drop of profit to treat the professors right, because saddly, the almighty dollar always speaks loudest. You may call it greedy on my part, and tell me "If you don't like it then shove off" but I am a good, dependable judge and if I do it will only make it that much harder on people. Plus, I enjoy it. Just put yourself in this position: You may enjoy a job you have, but don't you want just compensation or payment for your time and effort? Let me also say that the Point Program is like so many things in the Pokemon TCG: a good idea that needs improvment. Two key things need to happen with the PP: One, professors who judge ANY SANCTIONED TOURNAMENT need to recieve points. Of course, a simple saturday afternoon 16 man event wouldn't get as many as National Championships, but no tournament should be work without pay. Second, there needs to be GOOD ITEMS available to spend the points on, and at a fair ratio (if you get 10 points for judging a CC, then don't make 6 packs 10 points). It's not much to ask. Really. Just a little fairness and curtosy show to those who wear themselves out for 7 hours answering questions, making rulings and walking around all day.


To all those thinking about judging, just understand a few things:

:pokeball: One: Don't do it only for the "prizes". If I were doing it for this, then I would have quit a month ago, because right now it ain't worth it. Do it for the game, because if your like me, no matter what company runs it, the GAME has been good to you and brought you so many friends and memories that you really almost owe it to the game to stick with it.

:pokeball: Two: Don't do it for respect. You won't get much. See the above reasons as well.

:pokeball: Three: Check yourself. Short tempers will only explode, because if you don't have a good handle on your emotions, things can get ugly when your asked for a thirteenth time "When are we gonna start the next round?" after the computer just crashed for the fourth time. And belive-you-me, it WILL happen.

:pokeball: Four: Take a break. Don't judge all the time. After you have judged a few events, it's time to let yourself in a tournament or two, and let someone else deal with the computer software (if you haven't worked with it, you just don't know)

:pokeball: Five: Personal feelings have no place here. Every tournament I judge has many friends as players. ALWAYS rule fair, like you should, and don't show favoratism. If somebody wants to borrow one of your decks, that's fine, but don't go scouting the competition or something like that. That's wrong.

:pokeball: Six: Find a good TO. Fortunatly, one found me, but if your working for a crum-bum, don't. Quit, and go back to playing. The rewards are much better anyway, and if your doing good work you don't need to take any crap from anyone.


That's about it. just to sum up, it's a lot of hard work, so if you don't think your up to the challenge, then don't even start. TO's want good, honest people who know their stuff and are DEPENDABLE. If this can't be you, stick to playing. TO's already have it hard enough. I'm 18 and have no intention of becomeing a TO, unless our current leader has to leave and I need to step in to keep it all going. Trust me, TO's have a really tough time and get screwed out of their pocket's a lot, so at least show them respect and be consistant and dependable.

The professor program is a good thing, but, like the game itself and everything and everybody (save God), it has flaws. One is judges rewards. So if your only after the rewards, look elsewhere. For those of you who love the game, don't care as much about the prizes and know what your're doing, come on in. :D


Whoa, sorry guys, didn't mean to get all passionate and write an article. But you know how I am ;)
 
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VERY nice post, Pokemaster :D

Yea, I'm one of the people who's been interested in getting into the judging scene, and usually what I hear from people is, "the deciding factor should be the product support to judges." To that I'm just kinda =/ now that I think about it. My CC season goal was to win one and judge another, so that's just what I'm going to do.


"One: Don't do it only for the "prizes"."
Mhm. Being a renaissance man in Pokemon is beneficial, 'cause judging puts you into a whole new arena.

"Two: Don't do it for respect."
Eh, if a person doesn't respect me by now, then that's fine. Most of my friends over various message boards find it odd that I want to judge, but they're just a highly competitive lot that's all anti-PUSA.

"Three: Check yourself."
Mhm. If you can't check yourself, then you won't be able to check people in violation of the floor rules!

"Four: Take a break."
Eheheheh, always doing that. part-time judge, full-time player/deckbuilder :thumb:

"Five: Personal feelings have no place here."
Lol, true. Guys like MP Birch are apathetic when it comes to the game. If he has to, the great Richard would rule against his own son.

"Six: Find a good TO. "
I see we have a state and a TO in common, eh? =P

Mmmm, I think this will be your least-flamed constructive essay ever! ^^""
 
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i suriously dont think that judges should even get a whole box the 1st place winner doesnt even get a whole box anymore so why should the judges. Since your volunteering the judges shouldnt get anything it should be able helping the kids that want 2 play pokemon and having fun. if i ever get to be a judge for my league i wouldnt take anything for volunteering helping the other players is good enough for me.


[VOLUNTEERING- Acting or done willingly and without constraint or expectation of reward.] dictionary.com
 
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Whos Getting a whole box for helping set up an event at 10 am and running it till 4 and doing side events till 7 or 8 and helping clean up?

If any judge is getting a Box o cards it is because the PTO / TO is paying out of their own pocket and thinks the judge is worth it.
 
tecdecs said:
i suriously dont think that judges should even get a whole box the 1st place winner doesnt even get a whole box anymore so why should the judges. Since your volunteering the judges shouldnt get anything it should be able helping the kids that want 2 play pokemon and having fun. if i ever get to be a judge for my league i wouldnt take anything for volunteering helping the other players is good enough for me.


[VOLUNTEERING- Acting or done willingly and without constraint or expectation of reward.] dictionary.com

Have you actually ever worked an event? I wouldn't start saying that the staff should receive nothing if you have never been a staff member yourself. Some people become Professors for all the wrong reasons... why join a Program that is for individuals who contribute and volunteer at events/league if you do not do either? The Professor Program page on POP says in plain text that this isn't some club house. :nonono:

I suggest you actually judge an event for kicks and tell me if you would continue doing so 20+ more times that year.
 
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