ToysRUsKid
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Gonna be 1850 max for the last one in, IMO. 1840 or even lower wouldn't surprise me. Hard to see 35-40 in NA with 1850+.....
RANKINGS - 2007-08 Season
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TheDarkTwins
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It makes you think that if you have a rating of around 1900 going into Nationals, that you might play it safe and not play depending on where your are. If your in the T12 or so would you consider not playing at Nationals....
Just a thought,
Drew
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Keep in mind that there are still 2 large events (Regionals k=40, Nationals k=44), and 4 weekends of smaller events (BR k=8). Also, check the massive change between after Cities and after States. 1806 vs. 1739 on the low end. I think that you'll only feel safe after 1900. Anything below that, and you're probably on the chopping block. Those 8 tourneys at k=8 could be huge, I'm not sure how many ppl will have the chance to attend 8 BRs over those 4 weeks.
ToysRUsKid
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Nah, I think you're nuts. 30th was 1918 last year. There's no way that's even close this time.
Drew: It'd be stupid to sit at any point. Anyone at 1900 could go 6-3 and GAIN points, or at the very least break even at Nats. If you don't think you can go 6-3 after getting a 1900 rating, you shouldn't even be playing in Worlds. I don't care how much of a crapshoot Nats is.
Prof Clay
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I think you will find it very unlikely 6-3 at 1900 would gain any points unless all 3 losses were to higher ranked players. If at best you were to play against opponents of 1800 or higher, the loss to 1 opponent 100 points lower will cost you at least 20-25 points.
ToysRUsKid
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Of course. But losing a lot of points is not going to happen at 6-3, if losing any at all.
TheDarkTwins
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Okay, let's just count the ways your wrong. Cities last year K=32, Battle Roads last year K=32. 4 possible states and 2 regionals that you could go to compared to half that this year. If you really think that your gonna be suprised when it doesnt happen.
Eh, I went 6-3 last year and I went down about 30 points. I was 6-1 going into the last 2 rounds of Swiss. I got paired against a deck I had never faced and an autoloss (yes Rhyperior vs. Flygon Ex d is.)
If I had "dropped" the round before my first loss, I would of made it in. I was 4-0 at that time. It is indeed a crap shoot, but I don't know if I would want to risk playing and losing an invite. I dont think getting 6-3 is the problem, I think it is going 6-3 losing 30 points and missing Worlds by lets say 3 points. That would suck. I would rather just sit on it and enjoy Origins.
Yeh, I agree, I dont think you can actually go up going 6-3. Your gonna play some players that are not going to give you many points, which would not help the fact that you lost 3 times to players ranked higher if that was the case.
Eh, I dont agree, see my comment above.
JMO,
Drew
Cyrus
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Nats being a crapshoot or not, there's really no reason this year "not" to play in Nationals, unless you just reaalllllly want an invite.
I know a lot of you think it's a clever idea to drop, but the circumstances that led to my dropping from nationals were a lot more situational:
A) I received a free trip to nationals via regionals, so I felt like I could afford dropping from a tournament I didn't technically pay to go to.
B) I was guaranteed a free trip to Hawaii if I dropped. Trips to Hawaii are pretty expensive these days...
If the one circumstance of A) didn't occur, and if both circumstances of B) didn't occur, then I would have played the event in full.
In the end, you should do what you want, but this year, your only shot at a paid trip to worlds is nationals...So you might as well take that shot!
I know a lot of you think it's a clever idea to drop, but the circumstances that led to my dropping from nationals were a lot more situational:
A) I received a free trip to nationals via regionals, so I felt like I could afford dropping from a tournament I didn't technically pay to go to.
B) I was guaranteed a free trip to Hawaii if I dropped. Trips to Hawaii are pretty expensive these days...
If the one circumstance of A) didn't occur, and if both circumstances of B) didn't occur, then I would have played the event in full.
In the end, you should do what you want, but this year, your only shot at a paid trip to worlds is nationals...So you might as well take that shot!
TheDarkTwins
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You also get to boast that you went 0-1, drop, and your loss was to the National Champion. :tongue:
So, that looks good regardless. :thumb:
Drew
Ho Megas Alexandros
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1 Paul Johnston 1992.56 MA WA US
That is soo ridiculously high. Can somebody explain how that is possible?
That is soo ridiculously high. Can somebody explain how that is possible?
TheDarkTwins
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If he doesnt play the rest of the year, he is 100% in right now for Worlds.
JMO,
Drew
JandPDS
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He is on an incredible roll right now, he went 5-2 in Oregon States, Missed the top cut, 9-1 in Washington States winning that and 11-0 in NW Regionals plus he was in the top 25 ranking in NA prior to States starting that is how he got such a strong upswing in his score.
(By the way I am 1-4 vs him this year and lost on T2 when I was 3-0 in regionals)
smacktack15
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Kevin: I really do think that players like you, Matt K, & myself do have a shot for a ranking invite if we do well at Nats and BRs (I only have BRs).
For 1789, I'm pretty sure 7-2 Nats would get you the invite. Although if it's only 6 rounds with a T16, that means you'd have to 6-1 swiss and lose in T8.
smactack15: You have no chance without Nats unless you're already at least 1840 and just rip BRs. Otherwise you're only gaining about 15 points for 7-0ing each. That'd take a ridiculous record.
smactack15: You have no chance without Nats unless you're already at least 1840 and just rip BRs. Otherwise you're only gaining about 15 points for 7-0ing each. That'd take a ridiculous record.
Nu Gundam
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Scizor: To be honest, we will be lucky to have 5 or more rounds for Battle Roads in Ontario since they are pretty small to begin with (only 2 or 3 BRs had 5 rounds in the last two seasons IIRC). Also, I am not certain if going 5-1 then lose in T8 will be sufficient for Rankings (6-2), so I basically have to go 6-0 in Swiss and lose in Top 8 (that makes 7-1). Besides, Canadian Nats is not a cupcake competition either since there will be good players attending, so basically I will have to be on top of my game for that to happen. :lol:
smacktack15
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Scizor: I plan to go to 8 BRs and if I do go X-0/ X-1 in all of them (my ranking is 1777.86) then I still think I have a shot. If I gain 15 points from each BR i should gain around 100-120 points. 1780.00 (rounded) + 100 = 1870 (the low end of the top 33). I really don't care if I get the invite or not because I don't think I am going to Worlds.
Why not save the money from going to BRs and just go to your Nationals, and try and get a paid trip there?
smacktack15
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Nats is way to costly, last I checked it was 1500 $. I will go to Nats & Worlds next year so yeah