Statium Card: Rocket's Casino

Discussion in 'Create-A-Card' started by Mr_Fuji, Aug 19, 2003.

  1. Mr_Fuji

    Mr_Fuji New Member

    Rocket's Casino
    (Statium Card)

    Discard this card if another statium card comes into play.

    When you play this card from your hand to the field chose one: Heads or Tails. From the point this statium card comes into play untill it is discarded, all coin flips (Both yours and your opponent's) are the stated.

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    Basically, This can either make baby decks seriously VIABLE, or can make babbies completely useless. This can cause the depletion of the baby rule for a turn (or turns ;x), but in the same aspect, it can make agility perminate with slowking. Intresting strategy, really. Slowking/fearow would be so deadly...
     
  2. dkates

    dkates New Member

    I don't know... seems overpowered. But here's a similar text that might not be:

    At the beginning of each player's turn, that player flips a coin. Until the end of that player's turn, all coin flips are considered to have the same result as this flip.
     
  3. Mr_Fuji

    Mr_Fuji New Member

    naaah I like mine better...

    Pikachu/Slowking all the way!
     
  4. Kyogre

    Kyogre <a href="http://pokegym.net/gallery/browseimages.p

    Actually this card isn't all that broken. B/c if you choose heads, then your opponent would get the benefits as well as you. But if you choose tails, then both players get the disadvantage. It would almost need a deck based around it.
     
  5. yoshi1001

    yoshi1001 New Member

    I can name a few cards that could totally abuse this card. Fossil Geodude EX Linoone. Not a good idea.
     
  6. Mr_Fuji

    Mr_Fuji New Member

    Forget that... ANY card with agility, paired with a 2-2 slowking line. Imagine, Pikachu would become a MAJOR archetype!
     
  7. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Actually, that would bring up an interesting question. Say you choose heads, and someone attacks with an attack that reads, "Flip a coin until you get tails. This attack does X damage for each heads." Since the tails can't occur, what happens?
     
  8. Mr_Fuji

    Mr_Fuji New Member

    rofl, obv. you can stop once the pokemon is KOed... but the idea is to always use agility sucessfully, meaning however much damage is done, followed by instant immunity durring your deck turn, meaning geodude and such are useless.

    Was also concidering fearow, but that's an evo...
     
  9. yoshi1001

    yoshi1001 New Member

    Here's the problem. Let's move into Unlimited for a second here. Suppose I declare heads and play Slowking. Now nothing short of a power stopper will allow trainers to be played. This is just a sampling of the many flaws in this card. It creates a terrible game dynamic where only a small subset of cards are actually playable.
     
  10. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Not to mention, the only counter would be another Stadium or another copy of this one in the other mode. That's why I suggested a single flip at the beginning of each turn. At least then, it's a risk.
     
  11. Turbo Blastoise

    Turbo Blastoise New Member

    What I'd like to know is how this card would handle cards like Fossil Geodude (when you flip heads for Rocket's Casino) that say "Flip a coin until you get tails, this attack does ___"?
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2003
  12. Carrington388

    Carrington388 New Member

    Declaring heads and playing Mary's Impulse will cause you to deck. The original design does have some drawbacks, but dkates's fix is more balanced and would do better.
     
  13. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Of course, even with my fix, Mary's Impulse would be unplayable with this Stadium in play -- a heads means you deck, a tails means you get nothing. Another thing -- a Banded Baby would be even more powerful with this Stadium -- as long as the Baby is Banded, it can't be KO'd -- either the attack misses, or the Band activates. It would take a minimum of two attacks to KO the Baby.
     
  14. Nick15

    Nick15 New Member

    Heads: Auto-Paralyzation.
    Tails: Can't kill Babies.

    It's broken.
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2003
  15. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Agreed, but I would like to see if there is a way to have a similar effect without it being broken. I've already proposed one fix. Any ideas, nick -- or anyone else, for that matter?
     
  16. Mr_Fuji

    Mr_Fuji New Member

    Have any of you read my comments durring this post? The idea was to BE broken! This makes pikachu/slowking the ultimate deck in unlimited!

    Here's why... 2-2 slowking line, as long as yu get ONE slowking out by turn two, and a pikachu... and the gym... agility goes on forever. Even if a baby was banded before slowking came out.. Pikachu cant get hurt. the ONLY way out of it is to play 4 gyms and a 4-4 muk line...
     
  17. yoshi1001

    yoshi1001 New Member

    Mr Fuji, forgive me for what I'm about to say, but we really don't care. Broken cards have no place here as far as I'm concerned. They're boring and pointless. Anyone can come up with such cards with no skill involved. So don't be surprised when people start harassing you if you keep posting cards like this. Eventually people will just give up and start ignoring you. I'm sorry if that sounded rude, but that's the way it is.
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2003
  18. Mr_Fuji

    Mr_Fuji New Member

    No, that wasn't rude... much. Broken cards are when the game has been based arround. It didnt used to be that way, but it is now. You need to face the music. Nearly every deck played in tournaments (like the FAT) were archetypes. I know the winning ones were, for sure. Now I know how much you like to be smart (For example, Your match against my dad at Gen Con. You didnt wait for focus flips before taking your prize, my dad let you just put it back after the focus band worked, but as soon as he does something similar - no - wait - He didnt even look at the cards.. You went and called the judge.)

    You can sound smart all day and all night. The last time I checked, The boards were for recreation and learning. well, This card happens to be a funny card, so I posted it. and guess what, it was created to counter the deck you lost to. The baby deck.

    Anyway, how about you stop riding my back for awhile, k?

    "Fifty bucks says this goes right to a mod"
     
  19. yoshi1001

    yoshi1001 New Member

    I will ignore your personal attacks. Just because it's an archetype doesn't make it broken. Modified right now is actually pretty balanced (compared to previous formats). Why upset that balance, particularly with a card that creates a game dynamic unfavorable to creative thought? Rather than expanding the game, you contract it. That's the real problem. Your card isn't interesting, it's suffocating.
     
  20. Fawkes0126

    Fawkes0126 New Member

    I like this card, myself. It really does good for the steel magnemite card from Neo Discovery, especially.
     

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