T-tar ex d - MAJOR DISRUPTION??

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by L00p_H01eS, Sep 25, 2007.

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  1. L00p_H01eS

    L00p_H01eS New Member

    any1 here agree that t-tar ex d can be a MAJOR disruption???

    like against inferncatty u snipe their cattys
    hurricane u snipe cattys (again)
    vire and R-gon u snipe the flygon D
    empoleon (u just attk)
    mario (get the machamps first so that they cant revenge)
     
  2. Dragoncius

    Dragoncius New Member

    I have faced T-Tar ex with my Infernape deck and it doesnt stand a chance just beacuse of Speed. T-tar setup is really slow...It may work against Empoleon, just for Weakness and the 2HKO.
     
  3. Dark Weedle

    Dark Weedle New Member

    no, becuase you two shot their benched catty for a prize, they 2 shot your active ttar for 2 prizes
     
  4. Rai

    Rai <a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=

    Your definition of disruption is a two turn snipe knockout to anything?

    Especially considering that Magmortar LV.X is 100 damage anywhere, able to weaken the active at the same time, one less evolution stage, has a good support line in existance (Energy from discard is more reliable then energy in hand, because there can be energy in discard at all times of game, unlike in hand), and gives one less prize when killed; does this mean that Magmortar is the best disruptor right now?

    Tyranitar isn't bad, no, it's just this doesn't feel like the best usage of an EX like him. Admittedly, Lightning is a GREAT type to have, and his weakness isn't half bad (how many common grass decks do you see? Almost none that I'm aware of. Isn't that lovely?). And his pre-evolutions rock too. Just, anyone who sees that Electromark as the only reason to play T-Tar is putting stock into something that won't win matches on it's own. [del]That's why we're glad Tyranitar can do more then just two hit stuff, eh?[/del]
     
  5. Kenshin's Garde

    Kenshin's Garde New Member

    empoleon also 2hkos stuff. =/
     
  6. Ikari

    Ikari New Member

    Raichu MT - TTar Ex d - Rayquaza Ex d - Done...
     
  7. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    TTar is heavily underrated. But people tend to view him the wrong way.

    What he DOES need is Strength Charm/Pluspower tho. This allows him to one-shot Kricketune, Infernape and 130 HP stage-2 Waters. That Sure-Fire-2HKO-Snipe is an AMAZING ability to have against stuff that sets up behind something, but not against fast hitting decks. Against those he should just smack for 70-90. Which isn't a low damage output last time I checked.
     
  8. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    And then I show you 8 nrg, you die, all that hard work to get it set up is wasted, and I get 2 prizes. gg
     
  9. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    And then I continue killing all your stuff while you have no ways to get back your energy. gg
     
  10. therage

    therage New Member

    ugh your so arrogant.
    you dont ALWAYS Have 8 nrg in hand,and ive seen the deck played,in fact it t4'ed at both battle roads that i played in.
    but the reason it lost is because it didnt always have the nrg it needed to 1hko everything like you sayit does.
     
  11. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    Tyranitar ex isn't so hot anymore. It must 2HKO just about everything playable. It can't even one-shot a weak little Infernape! Whenever a poke levels up or evolves, the counter goes away. This card was much better during the reign of ex pokes, since it basically guaranteed two prizes in two turns, not bad. But now that the format has changed, this slow monster isn't very good.
     
  12. L00p_H01eS

    L00p_H01eS New Member

    well i didnt say that i was runnign 3 or 4 of them.. i was thinking of putting it in my R-gon 1-0-1 line


    im using kingdra ex D line 1-0-1 for vires.. ( thinking of replacing it with T-tar)
     
  13. Mew*

    Mew* Active Member

    I don't see Tyranitar going over so well in R-Gon. Kingdra works best with multiples in play, not just one. A better teched ex for R-Gon, if you really want one, would be Dragonite ex. It is great at spread. Tyranitar and Kingdra have almost no synergy to the strategy of the deck.
     
  14. JokerBoi

    JokerBoi New Member

    To sum up t-tars unplayability, most pokemon can KO something in two hits with attacks way better than t-tars. The end.
     
  15. Rai

    Rai <a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=

    I wasn't aware that there was another lightning type pokemon who had the ability to two turn KO a Blissey, even if something forces you to lose the active Tyranitar EX d (IE: Knock out or Warp Point forces something different to come up. In those cases, you'd send up a second Tyranitar EX d with three energy on it.)

    I wasn't aware that there was another pokemon line so easy to power up due to Raichu MT, nor that there was an option for the whole line to be delta (Fearow still is one of the fastest pokemon searchers, due to only being a stage 1 and working on the bench), nor that the non-delta stage 1 can act as a free pluspower to the Tyranitar EX d once it comes out.

    A Pupitar spreading damage then evolving into Tyranitar EX d will make Empoleon and Feraligatr sweat tears of blood. Tyranitar makes decks who only play one active at a time (solo blissey for example) very scared.

    And did anyone forget that Tyranitar EX d has 150 HP, which is the second highest in the modified format (highest is a LV X, Torterra), with a rather uncommon weakness. Oh dear. Kricketune beats this with no problem. Does Mario? Do Empoleon varients? Does Electivire? Does Infernape? Does Blissey?

    The only deck out of those four I just listed that would be rather scary would be Electivire, because they have a large enough bench to prevent Ele-mark donks, and Hyper Claws is only 70 damage to an Electivire, while they quite easilly outmuscle you. Even then, You can manage to Ele-mark their Electabuzz ds to prompt them to evolve quickly or lose their draw power. Additionally, Ele-marking Electivire SW would be rather scary for a future pure Electivire deck, as losing the ability to retrieve energies makes the deck flop.

    [del]I feel like I'm randomly stating stuff now... Great, what have I said? Searchable by an easy pokemon line, Powerable by another easy pokemon line, only flaw is the fact that it's 2 prizes when most pokemon aren't 2 prizes anymore, and you can pick off EXs at will with this thing[/del]

    It's not unplayable when built right. Certainly the deck isn't going to be perfect (It's a stage 2 EX. Dang. Even if that means Xatu finally has a use... :/) , but it's playable enough for some tournaments.

    Just get away from the idea that Tyranitar must be using his first and third attacks, 'cause spamming the same tactic every turn is never a good idea.

    EDIT: And Tyranitar should not be paired with cards like Flygon d or even Altaria EX d. You're playing a power reliant (and in the case of Flygon, Battle Frontier vulnerable and a Stage 2) pokemon to play extra energy from the hand, when you can do the same thing but from the deck and twice as fast with Raichu... Why?
     
  16. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Because Raichu can't keep on doing that.

    Otherwise though, I really liked your statements. Very well thought out. :thumb:
     
  17. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    No, I never said I always had 8nrg in my hand, but against somthing as slow as T-tar it's easy to do.
    I beat a Flygon ex deck by consistantly giveing out 150+ dmg. a turn. He underestimated my deck and how many nrg I could get in my hand and lost because of it. And don't forget I can always use breaking tail if I don't have enough nrg for the OHKO.

    I have back up cattys, and I will use them if one should die.
     
  18. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Which Catties? You mean the ones I sniped away? And after that I One-Shotted your Gatrs due to my Strength Charms for 100 + Weak = Kill? Oh silly me.
     
  19. JokerBoi

    JokerBoi New Member

    There is a difference between being playable and playable. Every card in the modified format is playable but, are they playable enough to win consistantly. When you show me a consistant and effective tyranitar list then I will believe it. T-tar places counters he doesnt leave any damage and I can evolve out of it, there is a lot of better pokemon to play at the moment.
     
  20. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    *sigh*

    "I can evolve out of it"

    NOT if you play against a good player. Oh look at that, my Delcatty has been marked. Lets evolve it. Oh wait. I CANT!

    TTar just kills anything not fully evolved and marks whenever he gets the time to do so. Simple.
     

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