Team Hatter presents: Toadstool (Now with Japanese/Hatter version)

[Zathaz]

I don't see why it's so good. You need a Poliwag, Poliwhirl, Poliwrath, AND Politoed in play before the effect triggers. The extra damage is only present on Wag/Whirl/Wrath. Wrath's first attack becomes useless after the first time it's used. His second attack hits himself for 80 when Politoed is in play. So you pretty much obliterate their active, but DMG yourself heavily in the process asking to be KO'd next turn.

Politoad says 60 more damage to the defending pokemon. So unless you are defending your own attack i dont think you do 80 to yourself ,only 20.

Look it up if you want

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Try using suicune though. if the wrath gets knoked out you can play it down and evolve the wag and whirl then play down the wag and ta da instent enthusam.

 

[Prime]

Just so people know. All the translations of the Poliwrath said that it increased damage done to both active Pokemon, so Poliwrath would hit itself for more damage. Unknown to them, the english version said it just increased damage done to the opponent's active pokemon.

 

[Rashad]

how bout quick balls in the deck and with all the supporters porygon 2 seems more practical than claydol and how about suicune SW in here

 

[Chazman]

You have 27 trainers in your list, not 26. Drop a Dawn's Stadium maybe?
And I agree, Suicune seems like a good idea to get Enthusiasm up again straight away.
Good Luck!

 

[Killax]

This deck shouldn't be that bad, I honestly think it can have a huge potential once you can thake the damage the first turns and your awesome set up is ready.

But, I would play a Gardevoir tech here, the possibilty to use 2 bebe's a turn is what this deck is in need of imho.

We'll see it play at the battlefield, but prolly not for the Worlds because I think Raichu lv. X will see a lot of play combined with luxray.

Cheers,

 

[GGRules!]

I was thinking about using this for my upcoming battle road, any advice?
Pokemon: 18
1 Azelf LA
2 Claydol GE
1 Baltoy GE
3 Poliwrath LA
2 Politoad LA
2 Poliwhirl LA
4 Poliwag LA
3 Phione MD

Trainers: 27
2 Night Maintenance
1 TSD
4 Rare Candy
2 Switch
3 Professor Oak's Visit
4 Roseanne's Research
4 Bebe's Search
4 Buck's Training
3 Evoluter TM

Energy: 15
4 Call Energy
7 Fighting Energy
4 Water Energy

 

[Hatter™]

looks interesting... Decent idea with the Evo TM

 

[Xaej]

Here's my Poli list, hopefully you can get some ideas from it

4 Poliwag
3 Poliwhirl
3 Poliwrath
2 Politoed
4 Pachirisu
2 Baltoy
2 Claydol
1 Chatot MD
1 Azelf LA
=22 pokemon

4 roseanne's research
4 bebe's search
4 rare candy
3 technical machine 01-evoluter
3 pokeball
2 time space distortion (if you have them..)
1 night maintenance
2 warp point
=23 trainers/supporters/stadiums

4 call energy (further setup insurance beyond pachi)
5 fighting energy
6 water energy

Suicune is an alright replacement for TSD as well, but it takes up a bench spot - which are VERY valuable in this deck.

- Xaej