TECHnical machines in LA

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by B_B_C, Aug 3, 2008.

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  1. B_B_C

    B_B_C New Member

    anyway i think these things are mad good.


    evoluter- search your deck for 1 evolution card and put it on that pokemon. kinda like phione right? but it takes no energy and any pokemon can use it.

    Devoluter-chose 1 of your oppents pokemon and remove the highest stage. Kinda like omastar and kinda like ATM rock but only 1 pokemon excluding lv.X.

    what do myou think?
     
  2. Ryuzaki

    Ryuzaki New Member

    <3 them both.

    Seventeen.
     
  3. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    Here are some interesting points. Neither of them have any clauses that say you can't have more than 1 TM on a Pokemon. Neither get discarded at the end of the turn, or after any situation occurs.

    Because they are trainers, they have variable use during the game, unlike Call Energy always providing an energy. I think that will play a big part in it's use in decks.

    Devoluter is like Ancient Technical Machine: Rock, but not as potent. I wonder how much use it will get.
     
  4. prof unky dan

    prof unky dan New Member

    im wondering if allot of speed empoleon decks will switch out omastar for devoluter? yeah your gonna have to attack to devolve the opp's poke. but i see it easyer to do then teching in a omastar line

    what do you think?

    danny
     
  5. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    It's just as hard getting out a TM than a fossil, and you don't have to spent more resources to get the stage 2 out for the TM, but Omastar devolves the opponent's entire bench, and does it with a Poke-Power, which is much more useful than a single devolution that requires an attack.
     
  6. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    TMs don't take up bench space or require a Candy to work, though :) And with Claydol in the deck it should be very easy to draw into it.
     
  7. MrMeches

    MrMeches New Member

    Ah Yes sir Matt, but if you Empo X them and then they KO, you can bring up a non powered poke a devolve them wihtout worrying about the Psychic Lock!!

    I think Pachi is going to be the PLay with Evolutor as you can now CFF for 3 and then attach Evol;utor and get the bonus effect instead of Call Energy then Phione! Plus, Pachi takes care of Tools since windstorm is gone so chance of hitting multiples in the hand as well!!

    They will def see play!

    <3 Prime!! He's the Manliest!

    Fish
     
  8. prof unky dan

    prof unky dan New Member

    yeah theres pros an cons to everything, i forgot omastar does the WHOLE bench....alittle bit more setup time but he does devolve the whole bench

    danny
     
  9. BloodDraek

    BloodDraek New Member

    I love these cards

    TS2 wastes your opponent's rare candies.

    TS1 replaces phione
     
  10. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    Prime, considering that the TM is just one card that you can't search for, rather than two cards you can't search for (Helix and Candy), overall in the long run it would be more effective.
    I play three in my awesome spread deck, and I always have them when I need them.
    So rather than play 1 Helix Fossil, Candy, and Omastar, three cards you need to devo only their bench, and you can do it only once, use that space to play 2-3 TM. While you can only devo one thing per TM, it's still easier to use and get out, and you can use them more than once, rather than having to wait for the optimal spread to drop the Omastar.
     
  11. yoyofsho16

    yoyofsho16 New Member

    They do have those clauses, saying it gets discarded, it just isn't in the above translation.
     
  12. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    You're wrong Yoyofsho, I am looking at the scan of both of them on Pokebeach right now, and neither of them say anything about getting discarded at the end or your turn.
    Please read into something like that before saying someone is wrong like that?
     
  13. Ryuzaki

    Ryuzaki New Member

    The TMs don't get discarded. You can use the attack repeatedly until the user gets knocked out.
     
  14. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    I love how you can just play them down for later and free your hand for extra draw with Claydol. Like call energy, the ability to let useless early stages do things is awesome. Even turn 2 or 3, TM2 is good for "LOL at the candy" before they can level it up. Later game even better. So much potential.
     
  15. The Phenom1993

    The Phenom1993 New Member

    The evolver machine might be useful in the start. call energy + the technical machine= pachirisu+phione.
     
  16. Ikari

    Ikari New Member

    Error, Call energy or Phione is a Energy Drop . Pachi + Evolutor is Energyless and its the same effect.

    Edit: lol Pachis uses Energy... Oh well, is pretty the same... i prefer Pachi + Evolutor for the HP...
     
  17. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    I can see the devoluter being a single tech in many decks.
     
  18. PokePockets

    PokePockets New Member

    Or how about just setting up with Evoluter without Pachi or Phione? I dunno...

    I really think that both of these will see play, both TS-1 and TS-2
     
  19. The Phenom1993

    The Phenom1993 New Member

    With call energy+evolver technical machine you can make every pokemon a pachi and a phione. Wat's the point of running a pachi is you are running a call energy?
     
  20. PokePockets

    PokePockets New Member

    True, if you are running Call Energy, you won't need Pachi or Phione, never thought about that...
     

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