The Shadow Iron Monarchy

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  1. Umbykirb

    Umbykirb New Member

    This will probably be my Battle Roads deck. I just want to see if people can help me get this more "up to par". Thanks for helping out!

    The Shadow Iron Monarchy

    3/2/3 Nidoqueen delta
    2/1/2 Nidoking delta
    2/0/2 Magnezone
    3 Holon's Castform
    1 Mew* (optional, instead replace with one Holon Castform)

    21 Pokemon

    4 TV Reporters
    3 Night Maintenence
    3 Celio
    4 Rare Candy
    3 Holon Adventurer
    2 Windstorm

    19 Trainers

    4 Basic Metal
    4 Special Metal
    4 Dark Metal
    3 Special Dark
    3 FF Holon
    2 Boost

    20 Energy

    Strategy:

    Charge up fast with Holon Castform, and if Mew* is in the deck, then you can always play around with that. The main attackers are King and Queen, with King scoring extra damage for discarding pokemon, and Queen powers up with pokemon in the discard. King, TVR, and Holon will help get pokemon in the discard so Queen can attack for 90, and Magnezone will help with retreating with his special poke-power (the Dark Metal NRG helps with that). And another side note, the only non-:colorless you need is one for the attack, and the rest is:colorless. Awesome, huh?

    What do you think? Puh-leeze help!

    PS: I give credit to whoever came up with "Dark Metal, a Conception". This is how I came up with the idea.
     
  2. Jayson

    Jayson Active Member

    Holon FF can't be paired up with a special energy (like castform) in order to get its effect. You need the basic energy. And as far as I can tell, you don't have any pokemon that benefit from having holon energies attached?
     
  3. Umbykirb

    Umbykirb New Member

    Ah, I overlooked that completely. Sorry 'bout that.

    Well, if you haven't noticed yet, I have a glaring psychic weakness. GLARING.

    Although I don't think there are many good decks with psychic this Battle Roads, thank god.
     
  4. fchangus2

    fchangus2 New Member

    hey, tech in a MT nidoqueen can help. Since you're running castform, you shouldn't have to mess around with your energy line to provide the pschic for the mt queen (since you won't be attacking her anyways).

    Also, with castforms in the deck, you're running too many energies and too little trainers. I would say run at most 16 energies (including boosts) and add 2 more windstorms and some plus powers / strength charms.
     
  5. thethirdckelly1

    thethirdckelly1 New Member

    I'd take out the magnezone line, and up thw king line to 3-2-3. The energy needs fixing. You'll need DRE and scramble.
     
  6. MrMeches

    MrMeches New Member

    I posted the Dark Metal, a Concept deck just to show some people they might be overlooking a card in the format... glad to see someone else going outdside the box!!

    Here is my idea for you!

    22 Pokemon

    4 Nidoran F MT
    2 Nidorina MT
    2 Nidoqueen d
    2 Nidoqueen MT

    3 Nidoran d M
    2 Nidorino d
    3 Nidoking d

    2 Magnemite PK
    2 Magnezone

    21 Trainers

    4 Bill's Maintenance <---See Below
    2 Steven's Advice
    4 Celio
    2 Scott/ Warp Point (as recommended by Rainbowgym)
    2 Night Maintenence
    1 TSD
    4 Rare Candy
    2 Windstorm

    17 Energy

    4 Special Metal
    4 Dark Metal
    3 Special Dark
    4 DRE
    2 Boost

    Now the explanation!!

    Queen needs to be abused so you need the 4-2-4 in here with the idea of having a chance of King attacking for D and that is it!! I ma concerned aobut he 2-2 Zone line, but if you are good with it, I am good with it!
    I would go Bill's over TVR just because you will be discarding with King's 2nd attack adn TVR so a lot of discard going in there! Bill's matched with Queen d, you can shuffle in a POke, hope you dont draw into it , then Invitation it again for the discard! A little more synergy than having them just stack i nthe discard pile!!
    I added Steven's in there as you will be discarding so will have somewhat of hand control for yourself, ntm that TGW is everywhere now, so if it happens to you, you have a chance of getting a hand again!
    TSD works well in here so dont miss it!! I know it is a hard card to get right now, but 1 could be a BIG difference! Try to obtain 1 and see where it goes!! If you dont like it, then it still has great Trade Value os no harm, no foul!!
    The DRE over Basci MEtal is need for the Quick Power up as well as they count for the Metal Requirement and you need Psychi for MT Queen! She will be used against Mario!!

    Good Luck and HAVE FUN!
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2007
  7. Rainbowgym

    Rainbowgym Active Member

    2 Castaway and NO basic nrg and NO tools, what a waist of resources.
    2 Warp point iso castaway would help you more.
     
  8. MrMeches

    MrMeches New Member

    Sorry.. meant to put in Scott instead after removing the Basic Metal for the DRE.. just forgot to!! Thanks for the call on it!

    Warp Point would actually be a good play do to Zone giving everything FREE RETREAT!
     
  9. Umbykirb

    Umbykirb New Member

    I see, that's pretty good.

    Although, I would rather play with Holon's Castform (I have four since I have traded for them), I'm going to take your trainer and energy suggestions.

    I will probably take out one of the Nidoqueen MT and replace it with one Nidoqueen D, and once again go for the Nidoran F delta, because of the Castform.

    If that really doesn't work out, I'll go with your suggestions almost completely. Thanks for the suggestions, people! So, here is my deck as of now:

    3-2-3 Nidoqueen

    3 Nidoran F d
    2 Nidorina MT
    2 Nidoqueen d
    1 Nidoqueen MT

    3-2-3 Nidoking d

    3 Nidoran M d
    2 Nidorino d
    3 Nidoking d

    2-0-2 Magnezone

    2 Magnemite PK
    2 Magnezone

    3 Holon Castform

    23 Pokemon (ouch!)

    3 Bill's Maintenance
    2 Steven's Advice
    3 Celio
    2 Warp Point
    3 Night Maintenence
    [DEL]1 TSD[/DEL] I had one at the prerelease but sold it for 44 bucks! I thought I wouldn't use it.:mad:
    4 Rare Candy
    2 Windstorm

    20 Trainers

    4 Special Metal
    4 Dark Metal
    3 Special Dark
    4 DRE
    2 Boost

    My questions here are: Anyone have any spare DREs, Boosts, Night Maintenence, Windstorms, or Bill's Maintenence? I'm lacking on those, and willing to trade for them.
     
  10. fchangus2

    fchangus2 New Member

    I got some spare boosts and bill's maintenance that I can trade, you should start a thread in the Trade forum and listing the cards that you have so people can make offers
     
  11. Umbykirb

    Umbykirb New Member

    Ok, I'll do that later. I'll make an offer for those trainers in your thread later too.
     
  12. KazamBolt

    KazamBolt Active Member

    No reason for the Holon FF. Add in another Special Dark and like some castaway.
     
  13. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    How can 44 bucks make you :mad:?
     
  14. Umbykirb

    Umbykirb New Member

    I thought I wouldn't use it makes me mad. 'Cause now I need to use it!
     
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