There is no such thing as an auto-loss

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by kristi, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. kristi

    kristi New Member

    At the beggining of this season I would not have agreed with this statement. A couple matches changed my mind. Infernape beating Empoleon. GG beating bannette. Magmortar beating a GOOD wailord. Magmortar beating Empoleon. Me almost beating bannette with GG. All of these matches may not seem like a lot, but at the time I was sure that they would end up differently. No matter what matchup, a deck is a deck and a player is a player. There are advantages, but I no longer think that there is such a thing as an auto-loss.

    Do you agree with this statement???

    Discuss.
     
  2. Black Mamba

    Black Mamba New Member

    in my opinion, there was never such a thing as a 100% all the time no matter what autoloss. There's always a chance!
     
  3. Ignatious

    Ignatious New Member

    The term auto loss more refers to the matchups as: Not winnable under normal curcumstances, but with the right luck there is still a chance. That is how I presceive it, anywho.
     
  4. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    Same here. Any given deck on any given day can donk someone.
     
  5. Abyss

    Abyss New Member

    Yes there are auto-losses. Mainly because Pokemon came up with an unbelievably broken attack called Psychic Lock that has absolutely no counter possible. Therefore Plox automatically wins against decks that count on powers to attack.
     
  6. brendan2236

    brendan2236 New Member

    There is never a 100% auto loss, since no matter how bad the matchup is, your oponent could draw into a dead hand, and you could get a god start, then donk them early on.
     
  7. NoPoke

    NoPoke New Member

    Did you know that there is a very small but nonetheless calculable probability that a tennis ball will go right through a brick wall rather than bounce off it? Quantum mechanics allows such wierd behaviour.

    Auto-losses in pokemon are somewhat similar but without such extremely low odds. Play in a tournament where every other player has a deck that totally counters yours and nearly every time you will finish dead last. Only nearly, sometimes you may win one of the auto-loss matches and finish second to last! In matchplay because you have to win twice you just can't expect to beat your auto-loss.
     
  8. ZAKtheGeek

    ZAKtheGeek New Member

    It's always possible to luck out.

    It's also possible for one or both players to screw up.
     
  9. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    Hey, just remember that AA only has 7:1 to beat 72os. You guys have hope yet!
     
  10. Papi/Manny

    Papi/Manny New Member

    I think turbo piplup loses to turbo turtwig every time.
     
  11. Lordofflareons

    Lordofflareons New Member

    nope. shard, 4 pp and 2nd attack?
     
  12. TLesky

    TLesky Active Member

    I played one of the original versions of Mario early in its life and faced an Infernape deck. Should be heavily in my favor. Problem was, I prized all 4 Machops. Too difficult to come back from when the first 2 prizes I took werent Machop. I guess anything can happen.:thumb:
     
  13. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    This wasn't an ato lose, but I played against a guy at nats that apparently had on his first turn (i went first) active chimchar rare candy, DRE ape lv.x. He played a celio and gave up, as all 3 ape where prized. :lol:
     
  14. NoPoke

    NoPoke New Member

    magikarp.dec is an autoloss to just about everything..1 karp and 59 water energy. Good luck with getting to the second energy attachment.

    or any deck where you run the wrong energy so you can't attack and have no powers or bodies to inflict knockouts.

    If your definition of auto-loss is that it always looses then just come up with an example deck that can never win, to show that auto-losses do exist. If your definition of an auto-loss is the more reasonable one of a very poor matchup that you rarely win then there are lots of matchups even between tournament decks that fit that definition.

    Either way 'auto-losses' exist.
     
  15. AlanJLegend

    AlanJLegend New Member

    Make this decklist, then play it against Gardevior:


    1 Feebas GE
    59 water energy


    Sounds like an auto loss to me :)
     
  16. Dennis Hawk

    Dennis Hawk New Member

    Lol, in our cities, Magikarp T2'd Magmar, thus winning the game.
     
  17. AquaChallengerB

    AquaChallengerB New Member

    now it sounds like your just tryin to fish for a reason here

    ( PUN INTENDED) ^________^
     
  18. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    But what if your opponent forgets to attack? Karp ftw
     
  19. Rambo1000

    Rambo1000 New Member

    last season i was 4-0 vs. shiftry ex decks with banette ex!
     
  20. Magic_Umbreon

    Magic_Umbreon Researching Tower Scientist, Retired

    Autowin versus Magikarp delta and 59 water energy.
     

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