Thinking Ahead #2: Magma Haymaker?!

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by Cyrus, Feb 29, 2004.

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  1. Cyrus

    Cyrus Iron Chef - Master Emeritus

    Now, unlike the BaD MoM deck that I built yesterday, this deck will be, without a doubt, legal by release of ADV 4! Now, before the deck, here are yet a few more helpful spoilers to explain the deck:

    (Note: Magma's Groudon is on if you look around the site a WHOLE lot...not really a whole lot, but you know what I mean! XD)


    Pokemon (12):

    4 Dunsparce (Sandstorm)
    4 Magma's Zangoose
    4 Magma's Groudon

    Trainers (24):

    4 Magma Ball
    4 TV Reporter
    4 Team Magma Conspirator
    4 Mr. Briney's Compassion
    4 Warp Point
    2 Apricorn Maker
    2 Town Volunteers

    Energy (24):

    4 Magma
    4 Dark
    16 Fighting

    This deck is BRUTALLY simple: get out Magma pokemon really , really fast so that you can deal some nice damage with Zangoose and Groudon. That's why we have just about every single card to pull basics in here: Magma, and Apricorn Maker to pull the Magma Balls. Warp Point gets your guys out of bad situations, as will Briney. Last of all, Dark Energy are in there for the added punch that pluspower so nicely gave you in the olden days *sighs*.

    Now, this is not only meant to be a vicious and fast deck, but a simple one that even beginners could easily pick up on and do well with. Plus, the little un's at your league will like the whole Magma theme!

    Suggestions, thoughts, and critism are all welcome in MY party folks ;)
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2004
  2. Spectreon

    Spectreon New Member

    your basic search is overkill

    Dual Ball, Fan Club, Lannette and Sparce maxed??? that is Psyco...

    4 Sparce and M Zangoose should be more than enough... dropping 12 cards from the deck... Probably add a couple of Wobbers, some back up Pokes and more draw... hmmm... maybe this

    -4 Dual Balls
    -4 Fan Club
    -4 Lannete
    -2 Apricorn

    4 Wobbers
    4 Psy
    4 Magma's Grunt (I think, it lets you draw 3 for discarding a Poke from hand, or 4 if you discard a Magma in name Poke)
    4 Oaks Research/Shaman
    2 Archie/Maxie (whichever works for Magma Pokes.... allows you to choose from hand or discard, and put it into play.. if it is stage 2, which it wont be obviously, put 2 coutners on it...)

    My 2 cents, and then some....
     
  3. Bigpoppabeatdown

    Bigpoppabeatdown New Member

    along with spec's ideas, 24 nrg??? well with specs, 28 nrg????

    that is crazy like whoa!!!

    drop 6 fighting, the 4 psychic

    add 4 multi/rainbow and more draw cards
     
  4. Spectreon

    Spectreon New Member

    Sorry, was oblivious to the energy count, or I woulda scoffed it too.... I think Psy or Rainbow.. I only picked Psy since it is a Basic energy.... and add 1 Fisherman...
     
  5. YoungJohn06

    YoungJohn06 New Member

    You have absolutely no drawpower... did you forget this important part of decks or just think it wasn't needed? Either way, you really need it and you way overkilled on searching for basics and crap man.

    Here's what I suggest.

    Pokemon (12):

    4 Dunsparce (Sandstorm)
    4 Magma's Zangoose
    4 Magma's Groudon

    (I don't really know what all is coming out in this next set, so all I'm going to say for the pokemon is add in some more Magma pokes for the remaining slots left in the deck that I took from energy.)

    Trainers (24):

    4 Professor oaks Research
    4 Copycat
    4 TV reporter
    2 Professor Birch
    2 Oracle
    2 Mr. Brineys Compassion
    2 Warp Point
    2 Switch
    1 Fisherman
    1 Town volunteers

    Energy (18):

    4 Magma
    4 Dark
    10 Fighting
     
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2004
  6. Spectreon

    Spectreon New Member

    Note to Youngjohn06...

    Spoiler for Magma grunt makes it better than Reporter... discards a Poke from hand first (only down side to reporter) then draws 3, if it had Magma in name, draw 1 more...

    Yeah, with 6 slots I would consider adding in a few more basics, or a stage 1 Magma line....
     
  7. YoungJohn06

    YoungJohn06 New Member


    How is that better? You have to have a specific type of card to discard, TV reporter is any. Look at it this way. You top deck Magma Grunt with a hand total of 1 including the grunt... oops gotta wait for a pokemon. You top deck TV reporter with a hand total of 1 including reporter... hmm I'll play TV reporter now and get 2 cards I can possibly use instead of being helpless.
     
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2004
  8. Cyrus

    Cyrus Iron Chef - Master Emeritus

    For my overkill, well...it's meant to be overkill, bud! I like trying unorthodox deck ideas out, EVEN if it's 24 energy and max out on normally useless trainers. This deck doesn't need any other draw than basic drawing, as energy will be easy to pull at a WHOPPING TWENTY-FOUR! Most decks do NOT play more than 20, but that's okay, since I only have 12 basics, and just need a full bench for a good game.

    So, play it as you will...I've made up crazier stuff than this, so don't freak out! This is just something to break the mold of all those Blaziken/Gardevoir decks that are everywhere. People are all like, "Hmmm...will this help Blaziken any? or "Hmmm...I think the metagame's safe from Gardevoir!!! harharhar!" It's my party, and I'll go insane if I want to. ;)
     
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2004
  9. registeel

    registeel New Member

    What do the Aqua/Magma energy's do?
     
  10. Dek

    Dek New Member

    Registeel, the spoilers for Magma energy are on Patriarch's first post. Most likely, it will be the same effect for Aqua energy.

    Anyways, this does look like an interesting deck. I would suggest the following...

    -4 Lanette net search
    -4 Fan Club (you already have Dunsparce)
    +4 TV Reporter
    +4 Magma Grunt
     
  11. Cyrus

    Cyrus Iron Chef - Master Emeritus

    No, this isn't trying to bump the topic. I merely edited to deck to match the current set. Conspirator is truly a wicked thing for this!
     
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