TogeChomp

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  1. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    TogeChomp

    Pokemon(23)

    4x Sentret
    2x Furret

    3x Gible
    2x Gabite
    3x Garchomp
    1x Garchomp Lv.X

    2x Togepi
    1x Togetic
    2x Togekiss

    2x Baltoy
    2x Claydol

    Trainers(20)
    4x Rare Candy
    3x Crystal Beach
    4x Celio's
    1x Scott
    2x NM
    2x Roseanna's
    1x TGW
    2x TVR

    Energy(17)
    3x Psychic
    2x Water
    2x Grass
    2x Metal(basic)
    2x Dark(basic)
    2x Electric
    2x Fire
    2x Fighting

    Strat: Standerd TogeChomp Strat.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2008
  2. nosada

    nosada New Member

    u need to evolve to use serene grace
     
  3. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    Yes, I know. THats why I play Rare Candy and Togepi & Togetic. Chomp Lv.X is in there for his power and to Restore Garchomps.
     
  4. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    -1 sentret -1 TVR

    +1-1 claydol, beside that looks pretty good!
     
  5. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    You think it'll be consistent enough with only 3 Sentret?
     
  6. kd0220437

    kd0220437 New Member

    It should be, and the Claydol is what you want. You want a 2-2 line so you can have a better chance at not having them prized.
     
  7. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    Ok. I'll be sure to test that. Ay other fixes and/or rates?
     
  8. kd0220437

    kd0220437 New Member

    Bump TVR up to 3 and remove TGW
    Also you want 4 Gible
     
  9. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    Just curious, why do I want to play 4 Gible when I want to start with Sentret(which I only have 3 of)?
     
  10. kd0220437

    kd0220437 New Member

    I was just suggesting it, you run 4 Garchomp, counting lv. x just a thought. I understand you want to start with Sentret, then bump it up to 4. I will say this though. I think you need to go with the Ball engine if you run Claydol.
     
  11. Prize_Card

    Prize_Card New Member

    Na, all you needed to do with the list was add the 1-1 claydol it looks perfect right now! but if your having problems setting up, you can always try pachi or phione version.
     
  12. MarchenHG

    MarchenHG New Member

    Way better then any Garchomp ive seen posted on gym, nice deck.
     
  13. ugly psyducky

    ugly psyducky <a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=

    List looks good. I don't quite understand TVR over POV unless its there to put the right energy in your discard before you use Rebirth. I'd be tempted to use POV here. Two cards seriously disrupt this deck, Battle Frontier and Cessation Crystal. You've got a reasonable answer to BF in Crystal Beach, but without Windstorm CC is going to be a problem for you. For that reason alone I think 3 Pachi (Pachi is alot easier to find than WS) + 1 Tauros + 2 Phione is better than Furret for your deck (that should also let you drop 1 CB for one more basic energy of your choice 18>17 for Kiss). If you really find that Furret is working for you (or there's lots of Dusknoir in your meta -Phione, Pachi does clog up your bench), then I'd suggest a 4-2 line rather than 3-3 to maximize your chance of a Sentret start. In the case you stick with Furret I strongly suggest 2 Windstorms in your deck.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2008
  14. Heatherdu

    Heatherdu New Member

    In my version I run 2 Celio's and 2 Bebe's because the Bebe's will let me put cards back into my deck to dwindle my hand for Claydol's power and also to add energy if I'm getting ready to use Togekiss.
     
  15. TODDakaESTEBAN

    TODDakaESTEBAN New Member

    it looks like you have too many lines to me but noone else seems to mind, i can't say i've heard of most of the fans of this list though,

    personally i would scrap furret line completely for 4 pachirisu, or 3 pachi 1 tauros , and throw in 2 warp points, you don't want to fold to an iffy deck like glaceon
     
  16. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    MarchenHG: Thanks

    ugly psyducky: about the TVR over POV. I really don't how it was changed to that, but I am testing to see which is better.

    To everybody who suggested Pachi and/or Phione: I think I'm going to stick with Furret, since I can set-up 2 turns after getting it out.

    New goal. What should I take out to fit in Windstorm.

    Thanks to everyone who posted thier suggestions.
     
  17. ugly psyducky

    ugly psyducky <a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=

    May -1 Candy / -1 Crystal Beach for the 2 Windstorms. Though I might be tempted to use Pachi rather than Windstorm.

    A) You get another starter so that's 6 good starters to 6 bad starters rather than the 4 to 6 ratio you are running now

    B) Pachi is searchable with 6 of your supporters, Windstorm isn't

    C) Garch retreats for free, allowing you to hit with Pachi get rid of the CC, plus if people see you running Furret, they aren't going to expect Pachi so they are going to hold there extra CC's in there hand instead of playing them. So one Pachi gets you maybe 2 or 3 CC's.
     
  18. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    Yes that seems like a better idea. I'll try different ways to fit in Pachi though and see which one works the best. Do you 1 Pachi will be good enough? Thanks for all the help.
     
  19. MarchenHG

    MarchenHG New Member

    Okay this is totally situational, but I lost a game at regionals ugly psyducky because of what you described in section C) of your post haha, Stefan and I were tied 2-2 in prizes, I retreated my loaded Garchomp for pachi and knocked out his empoleon who had cessation crystal, so it becomes his turn, time is called, he DREs his Gallade and wins, even worse, I asked for the time and the judge said under 10 minutes haha, i think he could have been a little more specific. Mind you this kid got fourth at norcal regionals, but i was still really upset. Again totally situational, but i wouldnt rely on that too much. but ugly psyduckys argument is actually pretty convincing, he even listed his reasons lol.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2008
  20. ChaosKnuckles

    ChaosKnuckles New Member

    Lol. I'm still debateing if its worth it. There are like 2 variations of meta-game decks that play Cessation.
     
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