ShinySwampert
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In that case, he should resist Psychic.
Dark types resist Ghosts, and they aren't weak to Poison.
Makes no sense.
Um.. Drapion Level X...?
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In that case, he should resist Psychic.
Dark types resist Ghosts, and they aren't weak to Poison.
Makes no sense.
Anway, I don't like the card much. 40-40 spread is okay... but that's for 4 Energy, compared to Empoelon's 30-30 spread for 2 Energy. If Empoleon did 20-20, it would still be better... simply because it can also OHKO things with Surf Together. Drapion has an okay Power, but it's flippy.
I don't think it will see much play, especially if Psychic becomes popular.
I don't think it will see much play, especially if Psychic becomes popular.
poke_master2008
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AMU...everyone knows this deck will see a lot of play..
ShinySwampert
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No, they aren't. Psychics resist Psychic types in the games. The only reason they are weak to Psychic in the TCG is that Ghosts are also Psychic. In the game, Drapion isn't weak to Posion, Psychic, or Dark. And if you say "they base on one type" like the other guy did, IT'S DARK. Not Psychic. No weakness to any of the TCG Psychic types.
Stop trying to make sense out of nonsense. Drapion having Psychic weakness is stupid.
Remember that there's a Drapion under the Lv.X, and the fact that unlike Empoleon, Drapion can take advantage of Special Darkness Energy. Darkrai makes that 80 +40 to the Bench. It will be played in a deck with other Pokemon that resist Psychic. Weakness isn't really a big deal. It still has a stupid weakness, tho.
Darkrai is a Basic Lv.X you have to set up with a Stage 1 Lv.X, which is hard, because unless you run 4 Warp Points or something, you can't attack with Drapion for a turn, and by then Darkrai is Knocked Out, or at least is damaged. You can only play 4 Sp. Darkness Energy. Weakness isn't a big deal? Lolwut? If Psychic gets popular (AMU, Gengar, plus any other cards that come out of Drapion's set), Weakness will be a BIG deal.
Dr. Mason
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Grind is good enough in itself, Consider how nicde it is if you can get Darkrai X out. And then you finally do have 5 energy, you have the option 150 damage straight up or 80 to active and 30 to the rest. Tyranitar could do more than spread...
Burninating_Torchic
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I was afraid there wasn't going to be a DP6 visual book because of the lack of news about it.
Not only is there one, but it's got a level X of one of the coolest Pokemon in DP.
Hawt.
I was afraid there wasn't going to be a DP6 visual book because of the lack of news about it.
Not only is there one, but it's got a level X of one of the coolest Pokemon in DP.
Hawt.
ShinySwampert
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Darkrai Lv. X has 100 hp. He won't get Knocked Out in one turn early game, and even Mid-game, attackers will struggle to do a consistant 100 damage. Who cares if Darkrai Lv.X it gets damaged?
You can't attack with Drapion for a turn; so what? Darkrai is a good attacker itself. Setting up a basic Lv.X isn't hard. You can only run 4 Special Dark. Ok... With Darkrai, They're all special. Drapion is still faster than Empoleon.
4 Warp Points is totally unnecessary. Moonlight Stadium exists.
Weakness is not a big deal. In this case, Darkrai has Psychic resistance, and the other Dark Types in the deck will resist psychic too. AMU will be popular, but it's not Plox; it won't be omnipresent, and it aint THAT great, just fast. As I said, the other cards in the deck will most likely resist AMU. Gengar is good, but so what? It's also weak to Dark, and the other Dark types resist it. Weakness isn't a big deal.
Why do you need Weavile? Tyranitar powers itself up. All you need is a way to discard Darkness Energy.
Besides, it can do like 40-60 for 2. That's not slow.
Black Mamba
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after a violent debate which lead to a large riot in the city of LA, we found out the reason why Skuntank is resistant to psychic and Drapion is weak to it.
Skuntank is a dark/poison type, and Drapion is a poison/dark type.
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Skuntank is a dark/poison type, and Drapion is a poison/dark type.
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ShinySwampert
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Professor Elm
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This makes Weezing slightly more playable.
I mean doing 30 for poison is good enough, BUT adding 10 for each Weezing is just harsh.
I don't see it being THAT competitive though.
Porygon Z is a nice little card that's capable of some pretty big damage.
I mean doing 30 for poison is good enough, BUT adding 10 for each Weezing is just harsh.
I don't see it being THAT competitive though.
Porygon Z is a nice little card that's capable of some pretty big damage.
mikeynumber1
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the dp drapion is weak to psychic, so i think thats why they made this one too, and the dp one is also psychic type, not sure why but they like to make poison pokemon psychic type insted of grass.
That is definitely a misconception. Have you actually played the card?
Tyranitar takes time to setup, and your opponent can control just how often you power it up with it's Poke-Body. Against quick stage 1/basic decks, Tyranitar doesn't get powered quick enough by itself, so you need Weavile. Weavile doesn't help late game either. Tyranitar's first attack is okay, but Magmortar is just the better card for that kind of damage, as it's a stage 1, has a wicked awesome lv.X, has built in healing, etc.
I don't see Tyranitar being competitive, really. Drapion lv.X has more potential in my opinion since it can sit on the bench and doesn't require the energy.
ShinySwampert
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I don't mean try to make a "Speed Tyranitar" deck, or even a moderately fast Tyranitar deck; it's a slow card. Don't build the deck around him. Put it in a Darkness deck that discards a lot. Or Maybe Speedkrow. Your opponent will use powers to help it. It has it's uses, but I don't think being a main attacker is it's thing.
Magmortar is faster, but Tyranitar does more damage. 4 for 80 vs a possible 4 for 120. It may be slow to do Spinning Tail, but Grinding for 40-60 for 2 and 60-80 for 3 is not bad, no matter how you look at it. The worst thing about it is that it's stage 2.
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I'm not saying it's hard to power once...or maybe even twice, but when late game comes, and your opponent is building their last fleets to win the game, you can't take 7-10 turns to power up another 2 tyranitars. As much as you think your going to get powered from it's body, you really don't. And often times when they do use their powers, you don't have the energy in the discard.
So I need to put Tyranitar in a Speedkrow deck AND fit in something to discard energy (because Felicity doesn't cut it alone)? Good luck fitting all that in a deck and still having room for the staple Claydol, and the energy and trainers.
It may be do-able, but pokemon with 1/2 energy attacks are still going to have a much easier game against it. Attacking turn 2-3, while your still trying to get out your Tyranitar and Claydol (and Honchkrow, lol), KO'ing all the basics you send up, while you try to power that 5-energy behemoth. Good luck.
So I need to put Tyranitar in a Speedkrow deck AND fit in something to discard energy (because Felicity doesn't cut it alone)? Good luck fitting all that in a deck and still having room for the staple Claydol, and the energy and trainers.
It may be do-able, but pokemon with 1/2 energy attacks are still going to have a much easier game against it. Attacking turn 2-3, while your still trying to get out your Tyranitar and Claydol (and Honchkrow, lol), KO'ing all the basics you send up, while you try to power that 5-energy behemoth. Good luck.
And we don't even know what else will come out in Drapion's set yet. Could be that there is a reprint of DRE, and so PLOX gets huge again, and X2 Weakness to Gardevoir will be completely unplayable.
ShinySwampert
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Yet you're assuming that it will be unplayable.
DRE Comeback? Won't happen.
Even if DRE did come back, Plox wouldn't rule. There are too many other great cards. :\
No, a 2x Weakness to Gardevoir doesn't make it unplayable. Even with DRE. Gardie gets outspeeded by it, and mega-poisoned. And with DRE, she can't OHKO. Or you can use Bubble Coat. Weakness isn't a big deal.
I agree with everything you say.
That's why I said it's not a good idea to build a deck around it. Just use it as a late game sweeper. Try it with GE Houndoom maybe. That discards alot of Darkness Energy. Just don't make Tyranitar the focus.
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