US Nationals live updates?

Discussion in 'National Championships' started by Freze, Jul 5, 2013.

  1. HappyHaunter

    HappyHaunter New Member

    Yeah I was expecting some more coverage/discussion but oh well. I'm happy for the winning deck though!
  2. PokeMama

    PokeMama New Member

    So are the Masters done now too? (so hard to find current info! >.< )

    *edit* Oh I see Kuras won MA. Thanks!
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2013
  3. Vablakes

    Vablakes New Member

    Yes, Gothitelle won.
  4. Otaku

    Otaku Active Member

    So the question is... why?

    I would love it to be because people like me realized we didn't even have enough information to achieve our normal levels of mediocre speculation and thus should remain silent, but even that hinges upon there just not being much to discuss this year due to lack of information.
  5. awesome37

    awesome37 New Member

    Here's a run down of what won nationals:

    Juniors: Team Plasma

    Seniors: Team Plasma

    Masters: Gothitelle/ Accelgor

    If you want the interveiws their on
  6. Widdi

    Widdi New Member

    I was playing a Gothitellle/Accelgor (with Darkrai and a Mew tech) deck just before I quit Standard (between Dragons Exalted and Boundaries Crossed). I wonder what updates were made to it with the three sets that were released since then? I was laughed at repeatedly for attempting it among my group of players. Admittedly it was clunky and a bit slow back then but I still won quite often and I really enjoyed the deck as it was much more involved than things like Darkrai and Eels.

    It's nice to see something I was once so fond of win a big tournament.
  7. HoLoN_TrAiNeR

    HoLoN_TrAiNeR New Member

    ^ Float Stone

    Using Darkrai to retreat Gothitelle was slow and clunky.
  8. Widdi

    Widdi New Member

    Makes sense. Makes me wanna go pick up some new cards and try her out again.
  9. Otaku

    Otaku Active Member

    Just remember that next set we get Virizion EX, which prevents (and cures existing) Special Condition for Pokémon with a source of :grass: Energy attached... and even with the card pool we have, people are probably already adding in counters they skipped because they didn't think they needed them. :wink:
  10. ShadowCard

    ShadowCard Active Member

    that is a good question.

    My first response would be "is there another site that is posting coverage of the event?" I looked around but was unable to find anything. On pokegym, where are the people posting lists of updates? Is it the players? Do the players simply not care enough to advertise their own performance? Maybe it isn't that they don't care but instead that none of those expect(ing)(ed) to well made it far enough in the event and so just didn't advertise it? Either way, the lack of demand for information here doesn't give much of an incentive to want to supply any. Virginia was following its players and posting their results because there was a request for it, so it looked like Virginia players had the best coverage even if they all had a rough time at the event.

    My next response is "do people just not come to pokegym for information?" As you said, there wasn't enough information to achieve normal levels of speculation. Where is the discussion about vendors? In previous years, we would know their buy rates ahead of time and what merchandise they were planning to bring. Was that information posted anywhere or was it just absent ahead of the event? Look at this board. Where is the information for anything about the event?
  11. watters

    watters New Member

    Me too they dont do nothing to grow the game and get people interested in it. Heck they dont care for masters as well.. They only care about juniors and seniors wich are the minority in the game psssssss..... What ever
  12. King Piplup

    King Piplup Active Member

    Coming from someone who's typically posted updates on here, there didn't really seem to be much of a demand and I therefore figured everyone was getting info via Twitter/Facebook/etc, so I didn't bother reporting redundant info.
  13. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    In other news: more evidence to show that this site is slowly dying.

    Nothing too surprising from what I'm seeing from the updates, the amount of people that showed up is kinda cool I guess.
  14. losjackal

    losjackal Technical Administrator

    Let's stop comparing the Pokémon TCG to Magic: The Gathering. The target demographic, the market size, and the revenue involved is in a different ballpark. In that Grand Prix Miami, 1,258 players paid $40 each to play. That is over $50,000 in new revenue (not reallocated from profits elsewhere) to produce an event. It makes sense why a 3rd party company (StarCityGames) has the reason and motivation to self-promote with streaming and more live coverage for players at home.

    Serious improvements TPCi did year:

    1. 75 minute top cut rounds
    2. Structure the schedule so each of the Final matches runs separately on Sunday
    3. Video equipment so spectators can watch the gameplay
    4. Audio equipment for live commentary from notable community members (and preventing the players from hearing it)
    5. Last Chance Tournament on Sunday for people who need more points
    6. TOM operators publishing online pairings for all of the events
    7. Adding a third vendor (Top Cut Central)
    8. Allowing Top Cut Central to run side events all day Thursday before the main events begin
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2013
  15. losjackal

    losjackal Technical Administrator

    If discussion begins to happen on other forums more, so be it. We can't force anyone to talk here.

    What we can do is innovate and offer new value. Over 900 players were able to connect their PokeGym accounts to use the Stadium for online pairings at Nationals. That's remarkable in my opinion.
  16. ajhawk

    ajhawk New Member

    Those are great improvements, but not the main one the community wants. And it's not difficult to get the stream rolling. Seems like a big miss on P!P's part to me, and many others. Especially when we don't even have to compare Pokemon to MtG, but we can look at other Pokemon events. Canada Nats, other Nats, several Regionals, several States have streams.

    ---------- Post added 07/08/2013 at 07:46 AM ----------

    Twitter, Facebook (specifically HeyFonte), **********, etc. all get more community discussion than what happens on the 'Gym, and it's not just about Nats coverage. Recently, all the big news stories have gotten more play on other sites: cheating, declumping, larger time limits, etc.
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2013
  17. losjackal

    losjackal Technical Administrator

    You mean the community of people who were unwilling or unable to attend Nationals.

    Because the community of people who DID attend Nationals, the main thing they wanted was online pairings and 75 minute top cut rounds.

    Technically no, but legally perhaps yes. We just don't know. What I do know is I sign more paperwork for Steven Reich's PokePress radio interviews than anyone I've ever seen for broadcasting their match on The Top Cut. So it makes sense that the community of streamers is being more cavalier than the company can, or is at least willing to do this year. Structuring Sunday to run as it did was hard enough, I can imagine, without having to worry about satisfying the folks at home.

    As an active participant who regularly tries to bring logic to the mob mentality, the HeyFonte posts and comments are barely conducive to good "discussions". PokeGym has a purpose: to be a well-moderated forum that is safe for families and kids to participate. HeyFonte and the other sites serves a different demographic. No one site has to "win" by being all things to all people.
  18. KazamBolt

    KazamBolt Active Member

    Don't you guys see? There was a lot of improvements to what happened at Nationals, but nothing for those people who didn't go. The point is that Pokemon is adding a lot of incentives to go to Nationals, and will probably draw a larger crowd next year. It's all part of their marketing strategy.
  19. jaws_is_ra

    jaws_is_ra Member

    Who won the Prof Cup. I can not get any info on the winner of it.
  20. losjackal

    losjackal Technical Administrator

    Geoff Sauk won the Prof Cup.

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