Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What about Pidgeot d ?

Well, I will. With decent stadium control of course (Crystal Beaches are essential, Drake's against other Beachers), and maybe a secret tech against new age latilock...

...Gardevoir EX d. :D Seriously, it's one of the best/only things to do against Latilock that can be teched in this deck. Your opponent will propably play 1 Latias HP as tech, and when you shut it down, it stays shut until your opponent feeds it to you (and you can throw it back with a whirlwind once). Ok, seriously, there's not much to do against Latilock than keep pounding away or snipe until they drop (which this deck can't do with planned build).

Well, as Gallade counter it should stand a chance, while GG takes 3 energy to attack when Beached. Also Cresselia Lv. X and Gardy PK get locked with Pidgeot HP, so keep those Battle Frontiers ready!
 
Hey Pidgeot is good because you can windstorm CC and Pidgeot, you can't. Try using it with Flygon ex d and mabye Kindra ex d along with Fearow.
 
I love it.
It's hard to find a good counterpart though.
Personally I think
2-1-2 Pidgeot d
4-4 Blissey
is the way to go.
Blissey is amazing, and it already abuses Holon energies like FF for Gallade and WP for everything, SO why not throw in a stable Pidgeot line?
It takes an energy, true, BUT it's effect would pay off ENORMOUSLY if you get it out early enough.
Think how much trouble GG would have trying to setup while it can't use Gardy/lv. X's powers. NO extra supporter ALONG with an already semi-slow setup deck means that Blisseys speed can run through GG fast enough. AND FF stops huge attacks by Gallade and IF you pull WP then WP makes yourself immune to ALL of Gallades effects except for the 60 damage with its second attack.

IN CONCLUSION
4 WP
4 FF
4 Fire
4 Water
4-4 Blissey
2-1-2 Pidgeot d
4 Crystal Beach

you've got a pretty well off lockdown deck, and your opponent will have a lotta fun trying to take down a 130 HP stage 1 tank immune to effects of attacks w/ no weakness.
AND Pidgeot also ruins Fire Truk. No Firestarter and Energy Draw along w/ Crystal Beach to stop Scrambles creates for a heap of trouble for Magmortar, and Latilock prevents Mags healing effect and also acts as a prefered target for sniping, rather than your Blisseys.

Pidgeot is also good in other decks.
 
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ZAKtheGeek said:
I wouldn't count on it against Magmortar, it would probably just get sniped...
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Hence why I tried it with Dugtrio. Absolutely amazing against Magmortar (I think I've only lost when Pidgeot was prized...), just nowhere near so against Garde/Gallade. The whole Sonic Blade thing was... Annoying to no end. Pidgeot SW certainly needs either Holon WP help, or (easier) Unown G.
 
Prof. Elm- I think the Blissey combo is worth exploring but would you plan on not having the energy needed to attack with delta Pidge? What about beefing up the line to include the SW Pidge that is a decent attacker, fits with the energy and has free retreat? Maybe a 3-1-2-1 line with 3 Rare Candy? Or even bigger maybe. Getting a turn one Blissey would not be bad either. I have been trying to work delta pidge into many decks and the energy is always the problem. Bliss combines with everything else so why not Pidge. And you can afford to miss an energy drop now and then with bliss to put the Holon on the bird.
 
Ok, I did some test games with following lineup:

4-2-3-1 Pidgeot SW/Pidgeot d HP
4-2 Furret
1-1 Milotic d DF

8 Water
4 Holon WP
1 Cyclone

3 Crystal Beach + 2 Drake's, 4 Candys, some Quick Balls, Celios, Roseanne's and POVs and the regular stuff...

It's quite a speed lineup whenever you get T2 Furret/Milotic, and it's quite often. It doesn't take too long to set up Pidgeot d, perhaps T3-T4 is realistic. That should be enough to keep those bulky setup decks from getting their set-up well. With Crystal Beach and you blocking their Typhlosions and Delcatties, even getting Magmortar Lv. X to hit the Pidgeot hp might be an issue. Also, Dugtrio, if you're too afraid.

The problem here is that 50 is not too much, it's 3HKO for most pokémon (well, with 4 Pluspowers, it might help to KO gardevoirs and magmortars). With Furret and Milotic support and low energy costs of Pidgeot, you can easily tech in a big hitter to finish them off. By the way, Milotic d works like charm in this deck. Furret can also Baton Pass the energies for Pidgeot SW to mirror move, so Gallade is pretty much forced to flip the prizes for a knockout...

As for the techs, you might want something to access the Latilock issue, as it just may be the decisive blow in some matchups.
 
But I was going to play blissy with pidgeot :(. I still think boost is needed Beach is nice but Blissy is just godly with boost.
 
Well, you usually don't want to attack with Delta Pidgeot as it's attack kinda sucks. Pidgeot SW does same amount and decent effect with one less and non-specific energy. Using DRE in this deck for Pidgeot HP is kinda pointless, as you want Crystal Beach to be in game against pretty much any deck.

If - for some reason - you would want to attack with Pidgeot d HP, use special metal in your deck. Extra protection from fighting and possibility to recycle them back to Pidgeot can make quite a tank, even though 100 HP is a bit low for tanking. If you just want a chance to attack with it in tight situation, you might want to throw in Castform.

In any case, Holon GL is garbage with lightning energy now that Ex's are gone, so I'd stick to Holon WP approach even though we lose one potential attacker. Pidgeot HP is here only for the body, staying in bench and letting the other birds handle the dirty job.

If you want to play Blissey with Pidgeot and boosts with it, then you sacrifice Crystal Beach lockdown. Can't argue which is better, but as most rogues, Pidgeot works best with distruption and stable, fast attacks.

If anyone has tested this with Blissey, go ahead and ruin my theory :)
 
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