What are the Tier One decks?

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by TheDeuce, Apr 7, 2004.

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  1. TheDeuce

    TheDeuce New Member

    Yeah, I know, another one of these threads, but with Gym Chhallenges coming up, and invites to Worlds on the line, I figured we could use another...

    What do you think are the best decks out there? I mean, I thought I had this metagame figured out, and then I hear that some Magma's Zangoose deck won a State Championship... @_@.

    Anyway, Last year it was easy... GatrSect, EnteiCargo, and SMF were the top 3 decks, hands down, followed by a couple other viable decks, but now, there's a bunch of decks that might be considered "top tier". Here are my opinions...

    Tier One:
    - Blaze/ex/Quaza variants (this includes BAR, RAMBO, BARD, and any other acronyms that people feel it necessary to use...)
    - Kingdra/ex variants
    - Swampert/Suicune ex (or possibly TA's Walrein...)

    Blaze/ex is kind obvious, we all know it's broken and incredibly overused. Kingdra ex is up there simply because it's got some of the most "anti-Blaze" potential out there. it can 1HKO Blaze, while Blaze can't do the same to it. Swampert/Suicune is up there for pretty the same reason, it lacks the survivability that Kingdra has, but it's just overall faster.

    Tier Two:
    - Gardevoir/ex variants
    - Turbo Ampharos
    - BlazeTales

    Garde/ex and BlazeTales I would've considered higher before TMvTA's release, but that's just the impact that Blaze ex has on the format.

    I know you're all thinking "This guy's insane! What kind of opinions are those!?" Well, voice your opinions, what really are the best decks out there...
     
  2. Pablo

    Pablo New Member

    FLAME WARS BEGIN!

    lol thats what this will trun into, but yeah ur Tier 1 decks and Tier 2 seem reasonable, thats prolly what we can expect at GC's etc

    -MuD
     
  3. Psyduck

    Psyduck New Member

    BlazeTails.........aka "Niniken".........Tier 2.........OMG?!?!?! :eek:
     
  4. St0neh

    St0neh New Member

    In my opinion:

    Tier 1:
    Blaziken variants: reigning so surpreme it got it's own tier

    Tier 2:
    Gardevoir/ex
    Amphy Ex

    Tier 3:
    Aggron EX/Wailord/Furret
    TA Lanturn variants
    Sceptile/Ex ( Sceptile+1grass+1boost=20 asleep poisoned burned )
    Latias/Magneton/Swampert
    Kingdra/EX

    My theory goes like this: combo decks (Blaziken) beat straight decks (AmpharosEX, just attack, no combo) , but straight decks have a better chance beating the remaining "random" decks, because they don't rely on a combo, exceptions excluded.
     
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  5. Kyogre

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    Since the limitation on boost you must be implying that you would do that for a nice early game beginning. Well congrats, you pwned that dunsparce. :D

    My 2 cents:

    Tier 1:
    Blaziken EX Variants (Blaze/Quaza, BAR, RAMBO, and Ninken)
    Swampert Variants (Suicune, Latias)
    Gardy - Mainly b/c of the early game wubb can break down a set up.

    Tier 2:
    Team Decks (Aqua/Magma)
    Ampharos EX
    Muk EX

    I still think that all tier one decks should break two rules, more then one energy per turn and either drawing extra cards every turn or searching for cards. All Tier one decks can give additional energies and either draw with Delcatty or search with Wynaght.
     
  6. meganium45

    meganium45 Active Member

    Tier 1

    Blaziken EX varients (Blaz/Eggs - Ninekin - Blaz/Ray)
    Swampret/Suicune - this deck has just started to shine
    Garde/Ex/Wobby - Still a powerhouse with a quick startup

    Tier 2

    KingdraEX

    Tier 3

    Everything Else

    JMHO

    (yeah, I said humble opinion)

    M45
     
  7. Dro~

    Dro~ New Member

    Kingdra ex would be in my top list only if it doesn't have that non-sense grass and electric weaknesses.

    I saw a victreebell shedinja deck, is it good?
     
  8. lanturn1234

    lanturn1234 New Member

    tier 1
    blaze varients
    gardevoir/gex
    swampert/ex/suicune ex

    tier 2
    ampharos ex
    aggron ex/ furret/wailord or xatu
    kingdra ex/kingdra aq/ hariama
    salamence
    sceptile ex varients

    tier 3

    everything else
    :pokeball:
     
  9. Pidgeotto Trainer

    Pidgeotto Trainer New Member

    Tier 1
    Blaziken/ex/Ray ex
    Tier 2
    Swampert/Suicune ex or TA Walrein
    Gardevoir/ex
    TA Lanturn/Manectric variants
    Amphy ex
    Sceptile/ex
    Kingdra ex
    Tier 3
    Muk ex
    Aggron ex
    Flygon/Magneton
    Salamence
    The only constant seems to be Blaziken. There are many other decks deserving tier 1 or 2. Others could still arise.
     
  10. Rainbowgym

    Rainbowgym Active Member

    Saw a very good one last week.
    Kingdra EX with Sceptile non holo and Nurses, Rainbow and Multi nrg.
    Needs a bit time but when it's there it hurts.
     
  11. SuperWooper

    SuperWooper New Member

    Tier 1: Blaziken variants - in a class of their own...if you don't think so...what are you doing posting here...

    Tier 2: Kingdra EX - counters Blazy (sorta), it's gotta be up here
    Sceptile EX - with nurse it's friggin annoying...don't believe me...play Magnechu...
    Swampert EX/Suicune - is viable, I had my doubts but have playtested, it works
    NOTE: WALREIN DOESN'T WORK WITH SWAMPERT!! It's time will come when Blastoise EX is released...(end subliminal message to make all of you play my deck! mwhahahaha....)
    Turbo Amphy - fast setup = GG, it's just a powerhouse, no denying it

    Tier 3: Gardevoir - sorry, it's gonna be dominated by BAR if BAR gets setup fast enough...which it will
    Rayquaza/Lanturn/Magneton/Manectric - O_O, Swanton's own little rougeness, too little time in which to playtest, but definitely viable, it'll work
    Aggron EX/Wailord/Furret - still kicks butt, Blaziken hinders it harshly

    There ya are...

    WOoP
     
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  12. Marshtomp

    Marshtomp New Member

    Tier 1
    Blaze ex
    WATER DECKS

    Tier 2
    Bar
    Swampert/ex/suicune and/or latias
    Garde ex

    Tier 3
    Rogue decks

    Blazeken is so used its not even funny. So many water decks for counter. Other than that, people will be playing archetypes from the past environment because thay think they have a chance. (but they mysteriously don't)

    I predict a lot of rogue blaze counters.
     
  13. swanton1717

    swanton1717 New Member

    MY input is..

    Tier 1:
    *Blaziken Varients..they all are the best X\
    *Swampert/Suicune Ex

    Tier 2:
    *Gardevoir/Ex
    *Kingdra Ex
    *Ampharos/Ex

    Tier 3:
    *Muk Ex
    *Ampharos/Ex
    *TA Lanturn/Magneton
    *Salamence
    *Flygon/Magneton

    Ya so there is my opinion. I'm glad some are starting to like the TA Lanturn/Magneton idea ^_^ Its a VERY good deck. Very fun too.

    ~Colin
     
  14. Articjedi

    Articjedi Active Member

    Tier 1:
    Blazi varients

    Tier 2:
    Aqua's Lanturn varients
    Swampert/Suicune
    Salamence
    Flygon (don't underestimate this deck, beat's gardy, amphy, loses to blazi fast)
    Kingdra ex

    Tier 3:
    Gardy (I'm really sick of seeing this deck, it isn't that good)
    Kingdra ex
    Turbo Amphy (loses to gardy, blazi, flygon, the list goes on)
    Wailord ex (it was a fluke guys)
     
  15. Dro~

    Dro~ New Member

    Why is kingdra ex in both tier 2 and 3?
     
  16. GrandmaJoner

    GrandmaJoner New Member

    OMG Blaziken/Ninetales tier 2??? With two Blaziken ex, it should be the best deck out there...I explain why in my post.
     
  17. Freddy K.

    Freddy K. New Member

    You missed out Phaniursa, Tier 1.

    ~fK
     
  18. Articjedi

    Articjedi Active Member

    Edit: oops, put kingdra in two tiers.
     
  19. b0n3z

    b0n3z New Member

    i have a question...what is rambo? i never heard it...and is here someone who can tell me what BAD is?
     
  20. RainbowRichards

    RainbowRichards Active Member

    Rayquaza EX, Aqua's Manectric, Blaze/EX, OHKO
     
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