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What do you think are the top decks in E-On?

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Mudkip said:
lol i wont rant away. I didnt mean in weakness, the little symbol in the bottom of the card :rolleyes: i meant as in weak or have a disadvatnage to any of the top decks. vs Sally, delcatty handles that well, and koing a sally is no different from koing a gardy ex. Water decks have some advantage over Niniken, but in actual playtest Niniken mostly wins, its only Kingdra decks that give Niniken a hard time, and even then its a 70-30 in favour of niniken, plus kingdra doesnt beat anything else apart from fire. but seriously, did u really think i would say blaziken/ninetales hasnt got a water symbol under weakness? :rolleyes:
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Actually no, but Blaze/all other variants do have weakness to water, in more way than one.
 
but name a good viable water deck at the moment, there are only rogue kingdras and tops, so blaze ninetales doesnt have a huge weakness

Scizor: Wailord swarm? yeah itll probably pwn blaze/tales, but WHO in the world plays that?!?!?! its just one deck, one player will play it to counter that single deck, and will lose to evrything :rolleyes:

EDIT: anyone who doesnt believe in Blaze/tales, pm me or Aim me or w/e and well battle over apprentice or aim or w/e, use any deck, BAR Gardy Muk w/e and ill prove u wrong.
 
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Scizor said:
Ok first off, i don't understand the obsession with Blaziken/Ninetales. It is a good deck but does not even compare to Blaziken/Quaza or BAR. IT LOSES to WATER PERIOD. I don't care if water doesn't beat everything else, but seriously how does Blaze/tales beat a wailord swarm? Anyway, Gardevoir is a good deck, but it just DOES NOT beat Blaziken. Anyway as good as Amphy is in Blaziken, i still honestly think that just plain Blaziken/Quaza is the best deck in the format, so to get technical here are the top decks once again:
1 Blaziken/Rayquaza
2 BAR
3 Gardevoir
4-5 Amphy and Aggron/Wailord

Yeah, so just quit arguing and don't diss Jermy BTW he knows what he is talking about and spends a lot of time testing. So yeah just go home =/
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OK ask jerms how Blaze/tales compares to BAR, and c what he answers.
 
Mudkip-Of course no one is going to make a solo Wailord deck. I don't think anyone in this discussion would make a deck around him. But Wailord is probably the most teched evo in the format. Because Blaziken is the best deck. You also need to tech in Crystal Shard to beat Rayquaza. If you get Wailord going with infinite Shards then Blaziken/Rayquaza will lose as long as you have maybe 1 backup Wailord. But you don't draw the Shard or 2nd Shard then Rayquaza will stand up there all day. Against Blaze/Ninetales I don't even need the Shard factor. Wailord will just dominate. You may be able to get 1 Ninetales ko of it and then I need another but if you don't I will be koing either your Ninetales (an attacker) or your Blaziken which without you won't recharge Tales. Wailord will see a lot of play but hardly ever as the featured poke. Aggron gets a much better chance against Tales because he will always have Furret. Wailord is good tech in Sceptile and maybe will start getting played in Gardevoir. These are in attempts to beat Blaze/Quaza but will make it even easier to beat Tales. Rayquaza is just more consistant and powerful than Tales. It takes less nrg to recharge and covers Blaziken's weakness. Both will do well but Ninetales is a less dominating deck. It has a good chance in the head-to-head which is the only reason I see to use it over Ray.
 
well, im out of this discussion, we will just have to see what wins and what doesnt in the CC's, I assure u Wailord is not enough to beat Blaze/tales, and Swampert isnt even a good deck right now. but w/e, if u dont believe what i say, battle me, ill be glad to prove you wrong. (contact details on sig)
 
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About Salamence.

It beats BAR, and how the heck are you going to beat it with Ninetails? You don't that's how =| It has resistance, it has Agility followed up with 60 dmg, that is UNAVOIDABLE cuz of the gust power. K? My version is really fast, so there's little chance that BLaze beats it.

Anyway. Yeah, random water might show up, Jermy, but I doubt the people playing it will be really solid players, you know? However, someone good might play Kingdra ex, in which case that could hurt you because I think one of the Blaze/Ray's or BLaze/Tails weaknesses is something that can swarm as fast as it can, and I think that Kingdra ex can do that.

As for other stuff, I remember back when Ampy came out and we were all like 'this is broken.' Now I don't even see the deck, let alone hear about it. I think it is still good though, so WHY are we not seeing this deck being played guys? Lack of a backup hitter? Bad matchups? I don't see how this auto-loses to Blaziken... in fact i'm sure it doesn't. So what's the deal with it?

Aggron is still incredible. It'll prolly be my choice for City champs unless I can get my Salamence up to par with it. It beats ANYTHING rogue, it goes toe to toe with Ampharos, and usually beats Gardevoir.

But. It is basically auto loss to blaze/ray.... prolly not blaze/tales though. I dunno, Fubu tells me that his version of Aggron can beat it, but I'm still skeptical... we'll see what happens over the course of the next few tournaments.

Now, I know this is about the top decks, but I really think there are some rogue things that can win... For starters, I'm sure that Colin will do very well with Vbell/Shed/Wobbu. I also think Cradily really needs to start seeing some playtime. I remember that Plaidlesspez's Cradily/Raichu was very good. Salamence, as I said earlier, has been performing pretty well for me so far. Flygon will also make a good showing.

Guess we'll find out just how good they are at City/State Champs.
 
I'm just wondering why no one is talking about Blaze/Eggs and which one is better Blaze/Eggs, Blaze/Tales, or/and Blaze/Rayquaza.
 
Blaze/Tales has one huge advantage. NO ex Pokemon.

Tales OHKO Wailord, and it goes 1/2 prizes vs wailord ex. OOPS. Nobody runs straight wailord. It's wailord/aggron normally...and aggron dies to btales.

Quaza and tales trade ko's, but tales gets 2 prizes. THAT is why tales will win most games. Its ability to trade hits with ex pokemon but double up on prizes.
 
blaze/tails is good but cannot deal the same big damage that Rayquazza can. Tails only picks up 20 extra for each energy discarded whereas Rayquazza gets twice as much. Rayquazza's water resitance is also very usefull as against being water weak like nintales.

lots of water still 'floating' around locally so Nintales isn't for me ;)
 
NoPoke said:
blaze/tails is good but cannot deal the same big damage that Rayquazza can. Tails only picks up 20 extra for each energy discarded whereas Rayquazza gets twice as much.
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Actually to be technical, if Tails had 4 energies on him he would do 110. While Ray would do 120, considering one of them is the required electric.

Blaze/Tails is very good. Very good indeed. But psycodad is right, Muk EX/Umbreon will come out of being red face paint eventually and will see more play. And it will take some time to get gardy ex to deal 100 every turn without gardy. Plus Muk ex does do 120 damage to Gardy EX. Which is kinda a lot. But Muk EX does lose to Aggron, Amphy, and Flygon(whoever plays that).
 
Rayquaza is weak to colorless. Blaziken just drops 5 energy on delcatty and OOPS

Everyone and their mother runs Dunsparce, which does 20+para for 1. =\

Muk ex is weak to gard ex. 2 psy+boost = ko with no other in play.
 
Top decks right now r kinda tied.They each have weaknesses and resistance to each other.But if i had to rate them

1.Ampharos ex/wyanut
2.Gardeviorex/Wobbuffet
3.Blaziken/Rayquaza ex
4.Wailord/Aggron ex

Nothin against Blaziken/Rayquaza but all the ones i've faced have been to slow.Even those with delcatty don't stand a chance.Gardevior and Ampharos just seem to be alot faster than Blaziken.
 
JediDrew said:
Obv. blaze is number one. You must not play against good people cause it beats everything else.
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Actually our leauge is one of the top ones in our state.Alot of people play blaziken/rayquaza I in fact played it and it's just not fast enough.Even at the FX tournament I beat Blaziken/Rayquaza/Catty decks without any problems.
 
Well I play at the best league in the country and I can tell you the Blaze IS the best deck. You must play in a state with only one league if you say blaze sucks and easy to beat.
 
skarmory777 said:
Actually our leauge is one of the top ones in our state.Alot of people play blaziken/rayquaza I in fact played it and it's just not fast enough.Even at the FX tournament I beat Blaziken/Rayquaza/Catty decks without any problems.
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Just because you played against the deck does NOT mean it was built right or played right... soooo this really doesn't help you make your point. BAR is totally fast.

Also, care to share what state?
 
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skarmory777 said:
Actually our leauge is one of the top ones in our state.Alot of people play blaziken/rayquaza I in fact played it and it's just not fast enough.Even at the FX tournament I beat Blaziken/Rayquaza/Catty decks without any problems.
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Obviously its Florida. Who were you? I was the one playing the Gardy deck that one the first modified event before the booster draft?
 
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